May 22, 2014 by warzan
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Time for another mini from the Arab Israeli war, and if you've been wondering how to take down those pesky jets bombing all your forces then the ZSU-57-2 looks to be just the bit of kit to clear up the skies.
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Also good for Half tracks men and SP guns and at anti tank 12 (yeah thats right anti tank 12) they will punch holes in Ishermans like well an anti tank 12 ranting… 12 and 5 shots… cries… if they stay alive long enough.
Great model with great use in any Arab army
Awesome looking vehicles. I know these were based on T-34 chassis and then the T-54, but notice how one set of road wheels is missing (four per side instead of the usual five)? I checked a few sources and sure enough, that is correct. I wonder why the engineers took these out?
Dr. Dave is right, though. Auto-fire 57mms will put a whole lot o’ hurtin’ on any soft targets in range, and probably relatively light Israeli armor like surplus M3s, M113s, AMX-13s, post-war Sherman upgrades.
At 2:40, are those optical rangefinders? I know the ZSU-57-2 wasn’t radar-controlled (not util the ZSU-23-4). Shooting down a low-flying jet “by eye” had to be tough.
It think its more of a case of lets scare the ever loving crud out of the pilot and he wont try to bomb us…. and tbh I get that I really do
True enough, @lafayette . 57mm shells coming at me at 300 rpm would be pretty scary, even if I was flying a Phantom or a Mirage.
Actually the ZSU-57 is pretty worthless against jets. The fire control is seriously outdated and the turret doesn’t turn fast enough to track fast targets…
Small wonder the soviets went for the Shilka and dumped these on their “allies”.
I actually made comments like this when Flames of War came out with their 88 “AA” half tracks recently (of course you’re completely correct) and the next thing I knew I was getting multiple “thumbs-down.” Oh well. 🙂 I play Avalon Hill’s “Arab-Israeli Wars” (covers 56, 67, 73, and even 82 wars) and they don’t even include this vehicle, which admittedly is kind of a shame since I would love to use it against ground targets. They do include the Shilka, though! 🙂 Egyptians and Syrians didn’t get them until the 1973 Yom Kippur War, where they do great work… Read more »
What, you’re only supposed to like things and get booed down if everything isn’t awesome?
I actually like the model. It looks scary even if it is something of a paper tiger.
They have turret from one of these at the Maritime museum in Tallinn. Their view of its worth is pretty scathing… Which is an interesting contrast to the full example at the air defence museum near Helsinki, where they list the technical details but refrain from commenting on its actual worth (admittedly, this applies to most of the exhibits there).
Yeah, @maxxon , I guess I made a few comments on the dubious effectiveness of 88s on half tracks trying to hit low-flying, high-speed fighter bombers, the kinds of planes you’d expect to face in a FoW game. My post may not have been terribly well written, however, and some folks might have taken that I was “attacking” the FoW game. We got it sorted, no worries. Helsinki and Tallinin? Those are some interesting places. There must be some great museums up there. We recently did some PanzerLeader situations based on Finnish operations toward Vyborg/Vipuri during the “Continuation War” of… Read more »
Maybe the PAVN version in Vietnam (probably not though) but I’m not going to start AIW. After what BF has done here in Australia my next game/period won’t be a BF one.