Warmachine and Hordes All in One Army Sets Start Your New Army
January 7, 2015 by dracs
What with being named Fantasy game of 2014, Warmachine and Hordes are off to a promising start, which is only getting built upon as players are presented with the perfect way to start their new army. Privateer Press unveil the All in One Army Boxes for Khador and Skorne!
These boxed sets, which will be getting released in February, bring you everything you need to get a full army ready for the tabletop, ranging from rank and file troops and mighty warjacks, to a heroic warcaster ready to lead them.
The Protectorate of Menoth and Legion of Everblight will be getting their own All in One Army Boxes in March, providing even more options for both new comers and existing players.
Personally, I think these could be what I need to get into these games. Now I just have to figure out whether Cryx, Cygnar or Trollbloods would be the faction to go for.
Do these box sets look like a promising addition to your collections? Which faction are you holding out for?
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I am saving my hobby money for the large part and later in the year will be making a big purchases, one of these is definitely on the watch list. I don’t know how true it is but apparently they are design to incorporate the more common/popular elements of tournament lists so provide a good basis to learn and then tailor a faction.
They are designed to provide core elements for their faction while offering a decently competitive force for Organized Play events.
so PP is now doing what GW has done for years and offers boxed sets with large number of models. I do wonder do those offer some discount compared to buying those models during time.
The difference is that these are suppose to offer a fairly sizable discount in cost versus buying all the models individually AND are more or less full, playable armies out of the box. Not sure there is anything that GW has offered that can say that…
Nearly every GW boxed set offers a discount compared to buying the models that would be in that box individually. Certainly the most recent (i.e. last few years) lots of sets. With regards to being “competitive”, I think that varies greatly from box to box, although GW have never made any pretence that their game is balanced (i.e. there are duff units / good units). With regards to Warmachine, it benefits tremendously from being an incredibly lethal (i.e. things can turn very quickly) game and so while some units might not be “as good” as others, nearly everything can do… Read more »
The Winter Guard Death Star is still pretty nasty and that’s exactly what the Khador box has for most of it’s infantry component (and as for the rest; you can’t go wrong with Widowmakers or Aiyana and Holt) – full unit of Winter Guard Infantry with UA, three Rocketeers and supported by Kovnik Josef Grigorovich. Then you factor in how well eSorscha can support Winter Guard and that is quite a scary infantry section. I’m not overly familiar with Skorne either, but it has Molik Karn in it and eMakeda is one of the warlocks who can turn him into… Read more »
I play Skorne for years now and I can say that this box got almost all of the juicy stuff in Skorne. With one exception: I don’t like Praetorian Swordsmen unit because I prefer Nihilators to fill the same role in my lists. Other than that, eMakeda is a warlock with the highest threat range in Skorne. Molik Karn and Titan Gladiator are two beasts that you’ll want to use in many lists: Molik is destructive as hell and Gladiator has Rush animus. Cathrapract Incindiarii guns are hands down really awesome. Paingiver Beasthandlers are staple to make your beasts hits… Read more »
For Khador, there are quite a few strong builds, and they had to pick one. Yeah, I’d have preferred and Iron Fang Pikeman build, but the Winterguard are a strong build. And the two warjacks they put in there are both fantastic. Plus, Lady Aiyana and Master Holt, and the Widowmaker snipers? Man, they might have built this out of the units that sell the best.
The Skorne look similar to me- it looks like something I’d see across the table (lots of strong infantry and Molik Kharn).
Each All-In-One army deal is ~30% off MSRP
It’s also worth noting that where applicable the pieces contained are the multi-kits, so the 3-1 jack/heavys and Keltarii/Swordsmen box.
Ive played 40k and fantasy along time but fed up of there rip off prices etc so was looking at other games to play. We got Zombicide and that is fantastic but was looking at other games. What I want to know is if this is suitable for me and my 13 year old and ten year old to play? they have played 40k …or would deadzone be a better choice?
Of the two, Deadzone has much simpler rules, but plenty of depth. IMO, Warmahordes has quite a steep learning curve and can be very unforgiving to the new player. I won’t comment whether the latter is suitable for your kids (we were playing 2nd ed AD&D aged 11 so comlexity isn’t necessarily a bad thing) 🙂
Warmachine and Hordes are great games. I used to play Warhammer 40k a lot, but I hardly ever play 40k anymore. I find WM/H are far more tactically satisfying game. If you and children liked 40k, and world be interested in steampunk fantasy, I’m sure you will find it not only suitable, but enjoyable.
Warmachine / Hordes having a steep learning curve is dependent on who you are playing. If a bunch of your friends are all starting off together, then in terms of the rules, you shouldn’t have any problems. The rules are easy enough to learn and get a handle on, although if you coming from 40k and it’s rather “fluffy rules” then you’ll be incredibly surprised at how precise the Warmachine rules are. The learning curve comes from the fact that the game is incredibly lethal; units / characters / Jacks / Beasts can all do tremendous damage, and you can… Read more »
One of the top selling points of Warmachine is that it is very skill based- there are dice, and luck happens, but it gets very sidelined, and a better player can often stomp a player who isn’t as good. If your 13 year old and 10 year old aren’t equally matched, it will show more than in other games. Also, the core rules for Warmachine are super simple, but every model has some special rules on his card. In a tournament setting, this means that players need to know lots about their opponents stuff, but if the three of you… Read more »
I have not played Warmachine, but from looking at the cards that come with the figures it seems like a fun game, maybe more for parents of 13-17 year old when comes to parent and child gaming, worth asking around a bit more and looking into the rule set, but I can tell you that it is a bit pricey model wise You should try Mantic’s Kings of War rule set first if you haven’t, It is a fairly simple, fast moving, and great to play with kids and adults from what I have heard. The models sets for KoW… Read more »
Get Zombies!!!! buy Twlight Creations! It’s simple as pie to play, cheap as chips to buy (less than £25 for the main game) and it comes with cheap expansion packs. Plus, it’s customizable and you can create endless scenarios with it.
@mrbenz, I would say so – while going into competitive play is a step learning curve, starting with one of the starters or 2 starter boxes gives a nice play experience and this can then be easily expanded bit by bit
Deadzone is very different, more necromunda like. Where as Warmachine/Hordes is very dynamic with ccg style elements – of combinations etc
Check the old content on the site have a game or two I believe, also check wargamer girl battle report starts very small scale
Looking forward to see what the trollblood and everblight packs will look like!
We have already solicited the Legion of Eveerblight All-In-One Army Bundle: PIP 73094 Legion of Everblight Army Box (metal/resin/plastic) – $129.99 [New Box] PIP 73019 Saeryn, Omen of Everblight PIP 73057 Carnivean/Ravagore/Scythean PIP 73081 Neraph/Seraph PIP 73021 Angelius PIP 73089 Nephilim Bloodseer PIP 73082 Strider Blightblades/Rangers PIP 73039 Strider Deathstalker PIP 73028 Shepherd x2
Yep- that looks like something I’ve played against.
The Khador set is just what I’m after and hopefully at a reduced price to buying them separate 🙂
Oh the boxes are not up yet on the web store 🙁
thanks for the responses to my question much appreciated peeps 🙂 One final question is there any race better for beginners or are they all roughly the same?
You can’t go wrong with the main factions; i.e. Warmachine Khador, Cygnar, Protectorate, Cryx, and Horde being Trollbloods, Circle, Skorne, Everblight. Additional info; When starting off with Warmachine, it was mentioned that Retribution probably shouldn’t be an army you start off with, but I did anyway and had no problems grasping the rules (I think part of the reason for this, was 4 years ago, the faction didn’t have a starter box and the range was much smaller than it is now; I can’t see a current reason why Retribution couldn’t be a beginner’s army). If starting off, I’d avoid… Read more »
The other useful thing to note about Warmachine / Hordes is that you can pick up a couple of the starter boxes for £30 each and they have the rules for all of the models and quick-start rules for the game, which may be enough for your first couple of rounds. My friends and I did this a couple of years ago; each picked up a starter box and had a battle using the quick start rules. If we liked it, we could buy more, if not, it wasn’t a huge wasted investment. Fortunately we loved it, and it’s out… Read more »
If you read Battle College, Cryx and Circle Orboros are rated as hard to learn, but Cryx can put out some serious damage once you get the hang of them. With Circle, you have to learn how to use terrain to your advantage. Cephalyx also probably not best to start with. They rely on synergy between their drudges and the cephalyx themselves. They can hit hard, but if you lose your unit leaders and Cephalyx solos, you won’t last long
These 2 sets would probably be good starting points, both are pretty straightforward (I think. I haven’t played as Skorne myself, but I have lost to them many times!) and they hit very hard.
I like the sound of these box sets, though I dread to think of the pricetag.
Wayland has them up on pre-order skorne one is about £80 quid, as a guide
Miniature Market also has them up for pre-order in the US. I think this was high time that Privateer Press got a larger starter set for those more willing to jump in for a bigger set.
I am going to assume these will all be plastic? Any news on that front?
Personally, I cannot wait for the Trollbloods 🙂
Not sure at the moment. I don’t think PP have said anything either. Wayland also has them listed as a limited edition release.
I like that the models in the Khador box are different from the two player starter. You can buy both and still add to your army without duplication.
Good thing I have most of my primary factions, or I would be hurting buying these. Unless they do a Rhulic or Thornfall box, then I’m in trouble, but I doubt those would be coming ;p
I would like to see Skorne and Everblight. Mainly as I use them as adversaries in the RPG a lot.