Weekender XLBS: Next Halo Space Game Revealed, More Tanks Info & Mega Terrain Chat
March 27, 2016 by dignity
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Happy Sunday!
buy it = quick…lacks imagination
make it=slower ….more satisfying
As I see it it’s much more important to teach new people how to build stuff themselves rather than just buying stuff. No one needs to learn how to assemble a bought kit, a chimp can do that. It requires zero imagination and very little skill. Building something from scratch developes ones imagination and creativity, both skills you’ll have great use from later on. I’m not against buying terrain but everyone should start with doing a few simple pieces themselves.
Building your own terrain = more money for miniatures 🙂
I just started playing the Legion of Everblight faction a few weeks ago. I love how the models look and the background of the faction and characters. Been enjoying them so far!
Happy Easter Sunday
I have neither the talent, time, nor inclination to make my own terrain. I don’t even want to buy kits I have to paint. Before I could buy all this terrain I wasn’t making my own terrain, so the pre-done kits have meant I’m putting a greater amount and a greater variety of terrain on the table. Even if you’re into making terrain, the pre-done kits expand the amount you can do because of the time investment. There is no dichotomy between build it/buy it. If you like to build you still can, but now you can do more, and… Read more »
Weird I cannot play the video, it says because of Privacy settings the video cannot be played. What?
Are you watching on an iPhone or iPad?
Its a problem with vimeo, caused by apple pushing out a change to safari
more info here:
https://vimeo.com/forums/help/topic:281401
As BoW (for obvious reasons) wont be making all backstage content front stage (thats what domain level privacy means here) all you can do is use another browser (chrome or firefox) if its an OS X device, if your using iOS your a bit stuffed until apple push out another update, so given their total lack of transparancy on matters like this hopefully will get fixed before iOS 9.4 is out, but it might not be…
That used to happen to me until I figured out that my browser was blocking referrers on BoW even though I whitelisted the site.
no my laptop as usual
I can watch it on my laptop but not my iPhone and I get the same privacy settings message. Apparently it’s to do with the iOS update a few days ago in the iPhone’s case. Not sure why you’d be getting it on the laptop.
@redben its an update to safari which has been bundled into ios 9.3 and also effects OS X
https://vimeo.com/forums/help/topic:281401
Workaround on OS X install chrome or firefox, iOS your a bit screwed until a fix is pushed out
Happy Easter Sunday! And on the terrain discussion false dichotomy much? Although having said that when you used to walk around wargaming shows and see tables of uniquely made terrain it was awe inspiring and really fuelled your imagination. Now you walk around and even with additional parts for building kits it all looks the same and kills the imagination. Plus you guys seem to have forgotten that younger wargamers have a lot of time but don’t have a lot of money, once a kid has got their army for any system that’s pretty much all their funds gone. Expecting… Read more »
it’s a Mac laptop. So odd, because the weekender yesterday was absolutely fine
Yes it’s clearly the IOS update which is not getting the permission to view the hidden backstage content. @dignity @warzan anything you can do ?
Lloyd knows about the problem, as I have had the same problem with my iPad this week after it updated to iOS 9.3.
@tresilliian Its a problem with vimeo, not BoW, vimeo’s work arround is to make all vids public for the time being, i.e. backstage vids would be front stage, not a lot can be done unfortunately until vimeo publish changes as apple wouldnt bother to fix a bug they create in safari they leave it up to others to break there stuff to be compatible, try installing chrome or firefox for OS X, if its not an iOS device, should be using a different keystore as i bet the issue is related to secure key signing…
@nakchak on iPad it is still a problem on Chrome
@robert yes iOS is unfortunatly hamstrung by apples insistence that you cant replace safari as the browser core (or run native code for that matter), so when you install Chrome on ios what you are really getting is a chrome skin ontop of safari, with the google tools optimised and preloaded, where as on OS X its a complete install, with its own browser rendering running native code, the bug itself is rather silly and will effect virtually any service which offers embedding and cares about where the embed request originates from
I can’t view either! “Privacy settings”.
I think pre-painted terrain is brilliant for early gamers and those with lots of other commitments – where they can spend their hobby time on the miniatures and gaming. I like the idea of both – I just don’t think I am creative enough to build from scratch.
Happy chocolate Sunday!
I’m guessing there won’t be an easy in to ‘Tanks’ for existing FoW players – i.e. just rules and cards?
Terrain to buy costs money. Some fantastic terrain and buildings that in an ideal work would coats more than the armies. I for one can’t afford to buy terrain. But I can make a decent model that satisfies my needs as a gamer. The soldiers are the thing, but that a house is an exact copy of a French chateau.
Same in any era – With practice you can make great, affordable, and effective terrain. It’s also another satisfying aspect of the hobby
We are of the same mind @applemak . My husband makes great terrain at an affordable price, which allows us to purchase more armies 🙂 And it is quite satisfying when you make something for the gaming table and it looks really good.
Nice to see Footsore get some love. They have a great range of minis. Love their Dark Age Irish. They just need to release the Irish slingers they showed last year!!!!
In regards to the remark about there not being many people that sculpt miniatures ; I have to because what I like is too obscure and niche to seemingly have any market value I’ve found…I also sometimes just feel the need to make everything from scratch too, it’s obsessive I know….
The more I’m hearing, the more irritated I am becoming on this terrain thing. For example the Iapygian kit provides ONLY five buildings for Infinity – which needs a multitude of buildings given the nature of the game. It costs £176. For a really effective Infinity table you will need twice that number of buildings, minimum plus all the accessories. So who can afford to spend £400+ on terrain just for ONE game? Add to that a 4×4 battle mat at £40+. So approaching £450/£500 JUST FOR THE TERRAIN for one game? The buy it, buy it option is just… Read more »
When we tried out Infinity we used a few Sarissa buildings and printed out some smaller crates and barriers onto card. Worked fine, the outlay was under £100, and we’ve used the terrain for several systems. Had we had to build it all ourselves then it just would never have happened.
Hi. I agree that some things can be created in card etc. I use card for my 6mm and 10mm games, for example. At 28mm+ scale I am less convinced, but have no problem. I think the cards in the Infinity Icestorm starter are fine to begin, but I’m not sure how well they will stand up to repeated use. For any of the games requiring a ‘busy’ table (Infinity, Wolsong etc.) the need for many buildings, woods, fences, walls, crates, etc. etc. becomes for some people (myself included) simply far too expensive for one game system. If a more… Read more »
Indeed. Build it/buy it isn’t an either/or. We used the cardstock terrain for smaller items and several years later they’re still holding up. Over time we’ve accumulated terrain from GW, PlastCraft, 4Ground, Antenocitis, Tabeltop World, and Micro Arts Studios, plus a few mats too. The overall outlay runs to several hundred pounds, but it’s been spread out over a number of years so the individual hits have been under £100 a time, and we can put together a table for just about any game from a relatively small selection. I’ve been gaming for a long time, and before this it… Read more »
Unfortunately, I am getting the same Privacy message when trying to view this through Safari on my iMac. Anyway to fix this issue? I have not encountered it before…
@dcurtis install chrome or firefox, apple have broken safari with latest update
https://vimeo.com/forums/help/topic:281401
thanks for the link. I very much appreciate being able to read why the issue is taking place. And, best of all, now I get my Sunday fix (not saying this is a problem, but I think I started to shake a little when the video would not fire up…)!!!
Cheers!
I think a combination of making your own and buying terrain is the way I am going to go as I like to convert both terrain and models.
Happy Sunday & Easter.
Worked a charm, Chrome it is.
Excellent, glad its resolved for you, shame for the iOS users out there….
personally terrain kits leave me cold without a lot of customisation, sure use them as a base for making something but box fresh not for me. But then given a choice i will always make something over buying it, seeing as i have built 3d printers and compressors in the past it would be unlikely for me to be pro off the shelf anything especially terrain, its the one thing i think that really lets the personality of a modeller shine…
I like both buying and making terrain. Anything I’ve got from 4Ground gets weathered, so it’s my own. Mantic’s Deadzone stuff is awesome as you can build it how you want, and paint it how you want. GW terrain is easy to convert. I’ll be buying the new castle from Renedra. There is too much good stuff out there to restrict yourself to one camp or another!
I tend to buy scenery which is useful across several games which is why I never managed to really branch off to scales other than 28mm.
I’ve started to build my own scenery more now but still buy stuff that takes my fancy. I think I spend more time on scenery these days than figures. I bought a load of the Mordberg buildings last year at salute and loved them, but I may try the sarissa precision for my ww2 European buildings as they are half the price meaning I can buy twice the number..
Ahhhh..it’s Sunday, time to relax…. I have a coffee in one hand and a Krisoy Kreme donut in the other, with the other five in the box next to me…now for XLBS…
And then Justin goes “there are not too many people sculpting their own miniatures”.
WHAT HAVE I BEEN TRYING TO TEACH YOU? 🙂
Hear hear, but even that is a lot of stock items being put to good use, rather than starting with just a wire frame, and some green stuff