Weekender (Extra Large!) XLBS: Age Of Sigmar Rumour Discussion
June 21, 2015 by lloyd
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Happy Sunday Folks 😉
Now we need Happy Sunday t-shirts please!
I second that motion.
I third it, Motion carries.
whattayamean it doesn’t work like that?
Also Happy Sunday.
Happy Sunday! For real this time!
Happy!
Eugh I need coffee
Happy Sunday! About to head off to Sheffield for a Guild Ball tourney so will catch up with you all this evening!
Playing or covering?
Playing
Good Luck, Have fun Dude. 🙂
Happy Sunday!!! Just finished watching the first part. Perfect timing 🙂
Happy Sunday!! And a happy fathers day too, especially to all those dads who’ve taught their kids the joy of wargaming (and resisted the temptation to CRUSH their petty forces into the dust!).
XLBS, mug of tea and a bacon sarnie on the way, all’s well. Have a good one.
…my daughter doesn’t play, but bought me some 20mm Vepa mini special forces!
Every single army book and starter set has been recalled from the GW stores. So old warhammer = dead, kaboom!
Age of Sigmar is the new warhammer.
All this talk about a 9th edition also coming out, is pure fantasy by the “old” players.
I’m interested to see what the changes play like… will I miss the old game… from a nostalgia point of view yes but I’ve not actively played in a number of years. Last Fantasy binge was a Sigmar force in Warmachine and then KoW. So maybe this will tempt me back, bring me back to the GW fold only time will tell.
I popped into my local store today for some paints and all the books were still on the shelves, or looked to be, but they had been covered by Blue A4 sheets with the Age of Sigmar is Coming sign we’ve seen online on them. Even though I’m excited about Age of Sigmar, I’m still happy I bought my High Elf army book last month – I can still play 8th with them if I want to.
But if people don’t like the new system, it doesn’t stop them from continuing to play the old one in clubs. My old club of Farnborough Wargames used to continue to run Warhammer Ancient Battles after that was retired. This isn’t like a computer license where everything breaks down after the support date. 😎
Happy Satur… uh. SUNDAY!
Happy Sunday guys! Interesting to hear a lot of the in and outs of the upcoming Warhammer reset. I was surprised you compared it to Warmahordes as to me it feels more War of the Ring. It will be interesting to see how it all comes together, how they balance out everything with the new card system and how you go about picking a force. I think the hero heal will put off a few but as you guys said I am happy they have tried to breathe new life into the game rather than lay it by the roadside… Read more »
I have to say that the new Warhammer rumours make it sound really good. I’m just worried the pricing will be stupid
No need to worry about that one, you can bet your money on the prices being stupid 🙂
I’d expect the box to be around the £65 – £75 which is a fair wedge, however compared to other skirmish games out there its fairly comparable. For me in latter years it wasn’t the started cost it was always the additional spend to move from box to army. Add £30 for Army book easily £200 for an average size army that was the real killer, I usually collect two armies for the games I play so pushing £400+ pounds ruled it out for me over the last few years.
I suspect it will be £75+ for the starter box…. Along with a price rise right across the GW range..
indeed it’s what I didn’t like about Warhammer, a focusing on indivdual high priced models that if you didn’t buy left you exposed to any player who did. These rumours suggest to me they are keeping that element perhaps even expanding it.
I switched to KIngs of War a while back and plan to stick with it.
…no need to worry – you can be sure the pricing will be stupid!
As long as I can still use my Chaos Dwarfs and Lizardmen on their original bases then I’ll be interested. I will be pretty pissed off if I cant use the 2 armies I spent hundreds o hours and pounds on.
Oh Warren, Age of Prince William… tut tut lol (I could imagine 2 human armies with petrol bombs and riot shields brawling while Orcs, Elves and Dwarves look on with confusion)
I suspect you will be fine as there are a lot of us players out there who have large and often multiply armies on square bases and I can’t see them alienating us after all we now have an alternative in KoW. While KoW obviously isn’t Warhammer it does tick a number of the right boxes and with the 2ed coming its always an option.
I already love KOW and I’ll be using by lizardmen in both systems. But as for Chaos Dwarfs there was just something special about them that the AD in KOW just dont match.
Warhammer Forge will get all the stat cards? If that’s true then it looks like my Chaos Dwarves are safe!. I just hope units like the K’dai Destroyer that havent been made but still have rules will get the stat cards.
Re the stat-cards….seeing GW’s trackrecord for releasing FAQ’s and the recent splintering of 40K rules it will be a fine mess.
I imagine players swapping cards the whole time as nobody longer knows what other players are fielding, let alone how they keep track of chosen options.
And please let it not be HeroHammer with S10 and T9 ubercharacters of doom.
Since S and T seem to be gone as stats, you are safe there 😀
So the wheel turns and we move into another phase or ‘edition war!’ For me it does sound the Warhammer id going to be a breath of fresh air after what 25 years of reprinting the same game over and over. For me the question is will it still feel like WARHAMMER? My experience of this was with DnD where 4th edition worked well enough but wasn’t DnD and many gamer defected to the opposition Pathfinder. So hope the designers gets this right as it was a financial disaster for Wizards(Hasbro) and the games survival I feel has been down… Read more »
Having stat cards for 40K would certainly cut my gaming time down, unlike some, I don’t have an encyclopedic memory and waste hours thumbing through various books and guides to confirm stuff. And that’s before I think about the number of games where I get to the end and think “crap I completely forgot to use that special ability!” For these two reasons I have to disagree with Lloyd.
Its even worse for 30k :/
Why do you think Mantic is working on a book of army lists for armies that they don’t produce themselves and/or don’t exist in their background???
When it comes to the “no book keeping” thing, that’s what I’m most disappointed about. The biggest reason why I will never play kings of war is that there really is no need to have models at all. They have no impact in the fight, they’re either full strength or dead. I really don’t like that. So if Warhammer goes the same way, I’ll be house ruling that to remove models that get killed, none of this “return to full health” rubbish.
I myself was on the fence with Kings of War for the reason you describe. But for me the hobby aspect is more important than the game: I want to build a cool fantasy army all modeled on diorama bases on the cheap. Also, while playing the game my army still looks cool because all the models are still there.
You can always remove models in KoW to represent the damage they’ve taken. In KoW there combat effectiveness may not be reduced but they become significantly more likely to break and run.
Happy Sunday. I do like the thought of the skirmish mode. And nice to see the GW taking Privateer Press seriously. I know a lot of Aussie’s & New Zealander’s went from fantasy to war machine due to costs & getting mini’s back around 08 or 09. I followed VaulSC on the tube, when he talked about why he changed. You can let Lloyd know cards can work in 40k or 30k aka heresy wars. When GW changes 40k they can print off cards for the different types of items & also put the cards in with the new character… Read more »
Unit Cards could be a great addition to the game just like you guys said, it works perfectly well in WarmaHordes.
When it comes to additional gear or options with the unit why not provide additional cards (like Item cards etc.) that you can put next to your unit stat card?
Whilst this, seems a solution at first viewing, upon reflection, I can envisage a gaming table resplendent with 50% terrain and 50% stat cards with additional option cards etc. etc. etc.
I think if you go the card way they need to add to the game play experience. 40K introduced this with the optional battle cards (Or whatever they are called), Mantics Deadzone make the cards part of the strategic imperative of the game.
‘The Age of Sigmar’ or ‘The Age of Desperation’? Only time, as always, will be the final judge! Watch this and many other spaces in the coming weeks
Happy actual Sunday!
Warmachine is a good shout; very popular at club for an evening. 3 games of that on the go for any GW game.
Also 50 model, based around heroes sounds like the GW LOTR game 8 years ago.
And as we know, skirmish based LOTR was then scaled to WOTR when they needed to shift more boxes! As long as I can use my WOTR unit trays when this happens…
WoTR was a really good rules system. I would not mind one bit if Age of Sigmar stole alot from that game.
I am thankful of one thing, I don’t think I heard the term once ‘GW trying to reinvent itself’, I really detest that term. ‘Coming up with a new idea’ is much better and far less sound bitish!
Hi gang and happy Sunday … am I the only one experiencing slow down and lag with the new player for Backstage?
No I have been having to click play a number of times before getting to the end of a video.
…no, I just get a blank screen!
I got the King William joke! I was kind on the back foot and grumpy about Age ofSigmar. But that was mainly because I bought into The End Times and started a new Chaos army at the turn of the year. As stuff came more out it kind of went on the back foot as I wanted to wait and see what was happening. So I have quite a bit unpainted and unbuilt. That being said as we are getting closer to the new release, I am getting more excited and am starting to think about buying in when it… Read more »
I enjoyed following the End Times I think it gives a satisfactory end to the Old World and for me nearly 30 yrs of gaming and that leaves a nice taste in my mouth. As Warren points out they could of just axed in and moved on!
Looking at whats coming next I’m intrigued, whether I jump in has as much to do with whether it feels both new and also the same. Veteran gamers, are I think, always harder to please we bring not just the reality of the system but our own passionate and gaming sagas.
Veteran GW players are impossible to please 🙂
Yes I agree I am becoming more and more intrigued as it gets closer. As The guys keep saying the possibilities of fighting small scale conflict in the middle of all those 4ground buildings opens all sorts of inspiration