Latest Warhammer End Times Teaser & Starter Set Details Leak Out?
February 24, 2015 by brennon
So the latest Games Workshop teaser trailer has popped up marking the Warhammer End Times (the REAL End Times) as this weekend. Archaon will come down from the North like a storm while Nagash rises to meet him from the South. Everyone else looks like they're going to be stuck in the middle!
It's interesting to ponder on who might be talking in the trailer. It's not Archaon and it's not Nagash either but could well be some poor Empire soul stuck in the middle. It could just be narration of course and actually have no bearing on any character. Admittedly a lot of people will be fighting for survival so take your pick!
Where next? Well the rumours have begun on what is going to be in this new Starter Set/Getting Started Box for the new edition of the game. Here's what we've heard the new box will contain...
Chaos
- 2 Warriors of Chaos Units
- 1 Daemon Unit
- 1 Chaos Warmachine
- 1 Lord (Special Edition and Unique)
Forces Of Good
- 2 Empire Infantry Units
- 1 Empire Cavalry Unit
- 1 Elf Unit
- 1 Warmachine (Dwarf?)
- 2 Lords (Special Edition and Unique Mounted & Foot)
...with all of this alongside two rulebooks, a painting guide and an army lists book. All of this is sounding very much like the Stormclaw/Exterminatus boxed sets we got for Warhammer 40,000 and would certainly follow an interesting trend however I would hope this isn't as limited as those if they're looking to get people off the ground with the new version of the game.
Fluff wise this is all meant to be set inside a ruined city of the Empire and will focus in on small level skirmish games where the heroes and characters are key. There has also been rumblings of new modular plastic terrain that will be a big focus for this new version of the game.
Sound like a good rumour to you?
"Archaon will come down from the North like a storm while Nagash rises to meet him from the South"
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That does look interesting.
A Knight on a Griffin will always be cool A Knight on a Giant Eagle will always be cool Giant Eagle pulling a sleigh with knight standing up will never be cool and i sure hope the soul brave of daft enough to ride in one, let alone go to battle in one has a parachute. Someone in the development team needs to have the balls to say, sorry mate, that is not a good idea. Go back and think of something else. Even if it is just for the artwork and not for a model Oh dear lawdy please… Read more »
Well yeah, Skycutter is overly silly and breaks laws of physics like there would not be another day. I don’t like that thing either. And yes, there is model for that thing.
Then again maybe it’s magic so that they don’t have to explain it.
If I assume there is some magical thing happening, which as it happens I did because there is no reason why the sky chariot would work otherwise, then why not just use the magic to make the chariot fly?
But apart from that it looks like a giant goose got shagged by Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and this was the resulting offspring! lol
Am sorry to hear there is a model for it. Waste of resources. Come on GW you can do better than this.
There’s already an elf on a griffin, from the previous starter set. Very cool. Got half a dozen of them. Glider towed by chicken: not so cool. I don’t see anything new in the pictures, just a re-boxing of old stuff, which is fine. I’m quite fond of GW elves… less the glider and the recent wood elf debacle. And I’m also fond of the older boxes of Empire infantry — a lot of character in those. They’re almost as good as Scibor’s recent releases. Looks like there will be a new Chaos hero, which will only make the set… Read more »
Stop it with the Gamezone… Get thee behind me Satan! lol
Was rethinking the mix and match army. It could be quite cool
I was, to quote Treebeard too hasty! lol
A possible problem will be, if you buy a starter comprised of 3 factions on one side, expanding with more units is not so big a deal, but, will one then require 3 army books to be able to run your composite army?
Ah, now I’m starting to see the method behind the madness. Why start people with two armies when you get them building six? In that case, the first army should be free, like crack in a playground.
I think they are going to have six army books going forward that merge some of the current armies. But presumably you can make a pure race army if you want.
My shiney syndrome means I have half an army for many factions that never quite got to the critical mass for the table. Merging sounds good to me and actually keeps the painting enjoyable, switching from human knights to elves to dwarves…..could be rather refreshing.
And, as usual, the Bretonnians get forgotten about.
When even fake click-bait rumours start forgetting about Bretonnians, it would seems to be time to move on.
Sounds like the new WHFB could be Mordheim v.2. I don’t see that as a bad thing.
As always, here’s hoping chaos finally gets a victory and not a “fail at the last minute” headbutt this time around.
Just realized that nasty figure in the artwork is Nagash. Why didn’t the miniature look like that, instead of like a Vegas showgirl ghost?
Her name was Lola
she practised dark arts
With bones and ribbons in her hair
and some zombies here and there…..
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
When I asked her name in a dark brown voice she said
Bernard
B E R N A R D Bernard
Nurgle infection, undead resurrection, at the Copa… unlike Nirvana…
Back in the Bozo clown days, the miniature never gave the artwork justice either .. so guess its tradition 😉
Looks awful.
I miss the way Warhammer used to be 30 years ago in the days of The Enemy Within campaign for the rpg. Back then it had that wonderful “aesthetic of the pathetic” that 40k used to very nearly have some of the time (and would have in spades if it was more John Blanchesque). Now the whole thing has fallen prey to the Cult of teh Awesome!!! tm. and is sinking fast.
Agree, its a sad thing to see the old world handled like this. To me this end times nonsense never happened :p *goes back to reading a very old white dwarf*
Ah, I wish I still had my old White Dwarfs. My first was issue 51, I hate to think what year that was.
Wow a real while back, mine was 105 and I was at school then – the first space marine army list and the glory that was Dark future. A lot of mine have not survived still have some old ones stored at family home.
105 was September ’88 apparently. Issue 51 was March ’84 🙂
“105 was September ’88 apparently. Issue 51 was March ’84 🙂 ”
If you knew that without checking, am not sure if I am seriously worried, impressed, or a bit of both lol
In ’84 I wasn’t sure if my arse was punched or bored, and didn’t give consideration to anything but ‘real’ wargames along the Iron Curtain. We did play apocalyptic micro-armour scenarios on occasion, and I think I got my first taste of ‘Traveller’ about that time, when I started hanging out with the recce platoon of the regiment. Didn’t know GW existed.
sounds about right, would have put me at start of 2nd year in secondary, year 8 for the youngsters or Americans.
@chibi at my advanced age I have trouble remembering what I had for lunch. Google however, remembers everything 🙂
I know that feeling! lol
Unless, it keeps repeating on me I can remember what I had for dinner before it settles.
Precisely the stuff that got me into it, well except not a fan of John Blanche after he went to his messy concept style. Cover for book 5 of enemy in was classic Blanche. Still have the entire set, plus a tonne of other books for 1st ed WFRP
Getting 5th end times to complete the set, but the quality has marked dropped through the series. Will try the rules to see if it’s a decent game but overall feel this is a bad decision – I am expecting a lazy half arsed rehash not fit for the new style of games. Model-wise will be surprised if it doesn’t get new models, to fit the new post end times background. The quality of fantasy has always been the aesthetic and lore – that is where my major concerns lie, I feel this will be weak rewrite to encourage buy… Read more »
I agree with you on the lore and aesthetic (something both warhammer’s lack comparatively these days) but I have to say I also put the blame on the community just as much as GW. I read one of the old Hobby Journal monthly’s awhile back, and was surprised to find some of the old guard in GW talking about how “points system” or such was only ever invented because of competitive or tournament style rules play. Used to be you had a number of dice multiplied by another number and that was your points. If you come from a community… Read more »
How loud a given group screams doesn’t determine what GW do, it’s sales that do that. WFB 1st ed didn’t bump up sales all that much. What did drive sales of minis through the roof was army lists, and this is back before there was a tournament scene. Points values went hand-in-hand with army lists. They’re not the only way to do an army list, but they’re the way GW chose.
@chaosdruid – GW choose to go with point values, in part for accessibility reasons, and heavily promoted tournaments through out the 90s the idea they are not concerned with balance is a half truth at best. It was true for origins but has been a very false statement to move away from balance criticism in more recent history.
Also if GW engaged with the community more they would not have many of the issues they currently face.
@dags- I didnt mean that as an issue for balance, I mean simply as a state of GW incorporating things into the games to flesh out equalized styles of “Gaming” that have less to do with lore, hobby, or narrative styles of play and more in line with access to larger crowds and tournament style play. Basically you and I are making the same point if I am reading your replay correctly. I never said GW engage on any meaningful level with a community, simply that a large part of that community, the ones who spend money to be at… Read more »
@chaosdruid, I don’t think that GW cares on opinions regardless of how loud or how much money a group spends – they just listen to sales, they don’t dig any deeper. There is a fairly major disconnect with a lot of the tournament scene, and the tournament arms race was a result of the promotion by GW and the logic behind it. The game has suffered because it is thrown out there unsupported and their is no engagement with the tournament scene, or the narrative players. Look to PP for a company that actively promotes alternate styles of play. The… Read more »
Im so glad I have never moved past my 3rd Edition Warhammer… still there and starting a tabletop Enemy Within Campaign…
Sounds cool, rpg with minis or skirmish game?
I admit to only having become part of the warhammer pantheon in 5th, what exactly was the old 3rd ed like?
It’s a set of rules you really need to set a lot of time aside to play. With its reserve movement phase, push backs, follow-ups & free strikes, it’s probably the closest WFB has been to a historical game. Equal WS hit on 5s which didn’t help speed things along, and the magic system was flawed to say the least. Of the five editions he wrote, it’s Rick’s least favourite. He greatly streamlined the rules for 4th ed and then built on that for 5th ed, which is his favourite edition. 4th ed was also pitched at a younger audience,… Read more »
I did type a reply to this this morning and site crashed. Largely what @redben said, it was the feel and fleshing out of 3rd that was major – I don’t think any one misses the 22.5 degree wheel. WFRP 1st ed and realm of chaos supported it fantastically as did warhammer armies. I personally think 5th was one of the better editions – I was quite keen on a lot of aspects of 7th.
Do you play 3rd as is or have you changed anything that may have been clunky?
When I encounter it being played, and there is something of a revival going on at the moment, then it’s usually “as is”.
I’m open minded, even though I don’t completely like the route that GW has taken over the last few years……..I’m hoping to be surprised with the New system.
The cover of the next White Dwarf has leaked. Blood for the Blood God and so on. You get the general idea:-
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos
Ok, that link doesn’t work. Here is one to DakkaDakka that shows the image instead:-
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450/630788.page
Intrigued about the possible modular buildings, a little over the tidal wave of grimdark personally. Keen to see what a fresh start will bring.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PiVVI3zn76A/TsJt4nFJ1-I/AAAAAAAABIU/kVAKislJup4/s1600/RealmOfChaos_1024.jpg
bring this atmosphere back … !
i think a Warammer Quest box game re-boot would be GOOD