Weekender XLBS: Will Star Wars Legion Take The Crown From 40K?
September 3, 2017 by dignity
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Happy Sunday
And @warzan we always been on the same page
Happy Sunday
Happy Sunday! Thank you, thank you, thank you, Ben! I thought I was the only one on this planet who thought the same about Game of Thrones. It’s getting just like most soaps, predictable and tedious. Those I work with who watch it, rave about every episode, even though nearly all are ‘Muggles’! Love you Ben xxx
No one predicted the Army of the dead had those big ass chains! 😉
You’re going to need much more than that ‘buckler’ to protect that torso, @warzan
Two? 😉 lol
It’s a drinking horn holder
Yup!
The big retail footprint of GW is only in the UK, most other places do not have that ratio of GW stores to indies – the state of Ohio which is physically larger than the UK have 1.
Great point on density @rasmus
Happy Sunday! To answer the question straight up before listening to the debate I’d say “No!”. While both have a deep lore to draw on,40k has a lore based around constant war between multiple factions specifically to hold up a game. SWL on the other hand has a narrower thread through time to follow with limited faction options… at the moment. It’ll be interesting to see if SWL opens up other narrative threads (their Universe certainly contained a number of options) beyond the Sith/Jedi, Empire/Rebel one used in the films. However the sheer fan base for SW to exploit is… Read more »
Yeah, the fact one is designed from the out set for tabletop and to be collectable Vs one that is simply not, has a big role in this for me.
Horn holder
Who is? 😉
Exactly. Who is on first.
If Justin hates props being reused etc does that mean when a figure he is using in a game dies be completely destroys the model as surely it wouldn’t be right to reuse a figure that’s previously died. It would just wreck the credibility of the game
Surely this is only named characters, there’s always more red shirts 😀
Justin spent Rorke’s Drift shooting a hill on the grounds that it might have Zulu sympathies.
SWL starter set will be picked up by both wargamers and collectors so that’s a win for FFG The problem I think is Star Wars is more about people, the heroes , yes there were grand battles but it was the climax to a characters arc. Except for ESB that chapter was back to front. Because of the larger scale ,32mm , will we see the likes of AT-ATs and X-wings in a spin-off game like the capital ships went to Armada or will FFG put out a set of AT-AT feet as terrain. I will get it because I… Read more »
Lord of the Rings could have fallen into that trap aswell but managed to make the rank and file not just in the way of the heroes fighting but the key part of the game. Sure the heroes can do a lot of damage and win you games but your rank and file are essential to them.
As much as I want to see Vader running around choking people if he can just wade through hrodes it’s not as fun to me.
Great show guys. Don’t worry Warzan I’m not a psychic or stalker we just happen to be of the same build. The two fingers thing is a myth. First it takes three fingers to draw an English Longbow, second if a common soldier was captured they’d normally just be executed and there are no sources that say it happened. I’ll be picking up Star Wars but I’m way more interested in the Old Republic stuff with Jedi v Sith. If anyone knows a place to pick up minis for it let me know. It could be huge but it could… Read more »
@elessar2590 isn’t it possible to draw an English Longbow with two fingers? I pull my recurve with 2 and I know others who do that as well and I know my instructor said that you get better results if you can use only two. He even joked that it would be even better with just one.
If you can find someone who can draw a 120+ pound longbow, repeatedly for hours with only two fingers that’s a special person.
Remember you’ve got no thumb ring. Are you shooting Modern Recurve Bows or Historical recurves?
I shoot with a modern recurve and use a leather finger guard. I know several traditional longbow archers and they use a leather glove but the heaviest they shoot is 60pounds, I think. The only people that go heavier are those with compound but there not many because a lot of clubs start to place a limit for safety.
In regards to this great mass debate over SWL Vs 40k ( and I’m not interested in either of them). My question is
Do FFG really care about competing with 40k or is it just something that’s blown up on the internet forums?
A bit of both 🙂
I can’t help thinking that the best was FFG could get a massive uptake in Star Wars would be to launch it on Kickstarter. I know it sounds mad for a company as bi as FFG, but the reach Kickstarted now has is so enormous that I feel the uptake would be vast compared to what marketing cost would be in traditional routes. Just look at the huge impact Conan had, compare that IP to Star Wars, I think FFG went that route they would dominate the Kickstarter figures and in one fail swoop have a gigantic user base, which… Read more »
Another great Weekender! 😀 Ah, Necromunda. Not quite the same product without 3D terrain, which I agree with Warren was what really made it something different when it first was released. I totally get the current rendition being 2D tile terrain, it will sell to a wider audience. And it isn’t necessary to sell terrain with games – there is any number of choices of wargame terrain you can buy today that you couldn’t in 1995. Plus a lot of boardgamers who don’t want to use 3D terrain, or get into the ‘wargaming’ side of gaming, but like their miniatures,… Read more »
From warm bed cream to Palestinian Liberation Army in seconds. Welcome to the Weekender.
Mixing up my PLAs and PLOs 🙂
Could happen to anyone right?!?
This sounds like it’s going to end up as a Judean People’s Front sketch
“You silly sod’s.” 😀
Splitter!
Happy Sunday Well done to all those that won a golden button, great job. I agree with Ben and Az about Game of Thrones. Warren has me thinking after his statement of the best ever TV/film fantasy ever. It’s weird when you start thinking about the film’s you have seen and what you think would be the best. After quite a bit of thought I came to the conclusion that for me it’s ‘Legend’, it’s embodies fantasy in its characters and in the way it was portrayed. Once I started to think about it other titles came to mind that… Read more »
I hate to say this, but I find myself fast forwarding through a lot of the weekender and backstager lately. I am sort of getting to the point where I am going to cancel my backstage pass as there really isn’t anything amazing content wise coming out anymore. If you are wondering, here are some of my critiques: *Stop with the non-gaming tangents. If I wanted an opinion on a movie, tv series, social event, happenings in the world, I would go to a website/media platform that specializes in those categories. You guys are a Tabletop/Board Game website, I come… Read more »
Interesting how you feel about the Weekenders as many of the points you raised are why I like the Weekenders. 🙂 To me they are the chill out, don’t take anything to seriously, enjoy a it of banter and silliness with a bit of interesting dialogue about current topics and gaming news. I feel I get all my serious gaming information and discussion in the front page posts and forums. I get what you are saying, what you want out of a Weekender, and maybe you are right that the back stage pass isn’t value for you, although it does… Read more »
@nick53588 Really interesting points thanks 🙂 I have a few bits of followup I hope may help. Non gaming tangents mostly occurs in XLBS which is supposed to feel closer between us and give a more behind the scenes look at our thoughts and feelings and sometimes life in general. You are backstage afterall and it’s a space where we let our hair down a bit. Guests cover topics that are being covered, and I can assure you many of our ‘non company representative’ guests have experience and expertise that far extends beyond many of those experts we have on… Read more »
@warzan As s bit of a follow up do you know When the ‘Lets Play Chain of Command’ is going to be put on the site?
I imagine pretty soon now @torros 🙂
Cheers
A lot of the stuff you don’t like about the weekender is the stuff I do like.
In particular, on XLBS, I enjoy tangents, rants, opinion, and even non-gaming related content.
Guys missed an editorial *bleep* at 1:11:30
I wondered about that, lol
Justin, I go back for the Army all the time to the U.S. Trick to jet lag coming back east to Europe. Sleep on the plane as much as you can on the way back. Then once you arrive (usually in the AM) force yourself to stay awake till about 9-10. Then force yourself to get up around 0600-0700 the next day. That’s the best way to get back on a schedule. At least it is for me.
That normally been working for me too – maybe even a drink in the evening to put you to sleep
No idea if Legion could challenge 40k. But personally I probably won’t be getting into it. I’ve wanted a Star Wars minis game for years, so ended up investing in Imperial Assault miniatures. So to find out that Legion will be a slightly different scale to the Imperial assault hasn’t impressed me. I already have Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker, I already have Storm Troopers and Rebel troopers, so im not going to buy them again. I’ve already painted all my imperial faction models, im not going to paint them again. To be honest, im happy to just carry on… Read more »
Great show today – interesting discussion! I’ll be picking up SWL. And currently my hobby time is all 40k. Hobby time will switch to SWL when the starter arrives so I can get that on the table and give it a go. The test will come then. Will SWL make me want to spend my hobby dollars and hobby time on each of its new releases over picking up the new 40k releases? Not sure. Without the release of 40k 8th I would have said the chances of switching to SWL would have been a lot higher. Now, not so… Read more »
Thank god Warren is back. The distinct lack of double entendres (or ‘Warreness’) has definitely been missed.
Ah Justin, the two fingers myth is thought to be apocryphal.
Warren forget the chains… how fast can a man run, how fast can a crow fly, how fast can a dragon fly?
lol but it’s dragons Vs zombies!!!!!!
Ha! No one has ever replied to me on here… feels special. Hahaha!
True and i felt the final episode more than made up for the issues I had with the rest of the series
@Warzan that’s a drinking horn rest.
Despite being a wargamer , I just fancy painting a few star wars models rather than playing the game. If they make an AT-ST i will get one, the speeder from the box looks good too.