Weekender XLBS: SAGA Campaigns & Hunting For Nazi Treasure
February 12, 2017 by dignity
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Happy sunday!
Happy Sunday
Try out the Warhammer historical ruleset Trafalgar. If you’ve ever played Man O’War from GW then you’ll have a good idea of how the game works.
As for Boarding actions, it was an essential part of the Age of Sail. They would pound the hell out of the opposing ship and then close in order to board them. After all that was how they took ships as prizes. Get a copy of Trafalgar if you can, if you can’t find one then I could loan you my copy 😀
The Warhammer Historical ruleset is broken, it has so many errors in it. It was so flawed I heard the guy that wrote it got sacked.
the guy who wrote it was Mark Latham and he was still at GW years after Trafalgar was published so I think that’s just a bit of internet alt facts that you’ve heard mate.
I think it’s the same guy that that wrote Chosen Men for Osprey
you’re correct, and a list of other games as long as a small childs arm 😉
OK my bad… However the Trafalgar rules are so broken in terms of Age of Sail gaming.
The idea that GW would sack someone for writing an unbalanced ruleset is hilarious lol
Age of the Wolf is a great campaign system, we’re having a lot of fun in the local club.
Just close your eyes when rolling on the fate table… 😀
shhhh they don’t know about the fate table yet, don’t scare them off 😉
Oh it’s all peaches and cream that fate table. It’s not like you can win a battle and still lose half your forces by rolling badly on it. That would be ludicrous. 😉
Happy Sunday – Gaming this weekend it a trek across a post apocalyptic Scotland with @oriskany as the tour guide
Awesome show guys loved it. The Sandpit had some Rifleman in it sniping during the battle. 95th Rifleman no less!!! (Sharpes Lads) Logarithmic and Exponential functions are basically opposites. So you are both correct, incorrect and half correct. Schrodinger’s Justin has been found. I’m painting some French and British right now for a mini campaign with a friend I might make a forum post about them. I start by painting the white first and being careful. The mini Campaign is about Napoleon being re-exiled to Elba after Waterloo and the British sending in a force to assassinate him and his… Read more »
great show guys @Lloyd, I’ll need to look at your roster because Justin is right you swapped to Harold later so you have some different traits, we’ll fix that when I get up later 😉 @Warzan to give you a brief run down (probably not brief enough) The Warlords Power rating is the total of their wealth, lands and reputation and their warband, only Warlords with power of 15 or more can win the campaign, you can squirrel away gold but if no one knows your name then you’ll never be king 🙂 I will be doing a write up… Read more »
Years before space Hulk we used the old judge Dredd floor plans to play scfi bug hunting gamez
I left a set of those in a house in Cromwell street. You should call round ask them to check the cupboard.
Do you mean Cromwell Road?..Can’t think of a Cromwell St
Just looked the floor plans up online. Completely forgotten about the Dungeon ones they did
yes that’s it just turn off by the subway after the empire bar, number 10 top left cupboard above the mantle place.
Tell them I sent you, it’s been 25 years but I’m sure it’ll be fine
La Haye Sainte ( La hey sande)
For experimenting with rules for the battle of Trafalgar, take a look at ‘Pirates of the Spanish Main’ originally produced by WizKids games. The ships are cheap and easy to assemble, punched from small styrene cards. The original rules should suffice for Lloyd’s taste! But, if you then download ‘Wooden Ships & Iron Men Lite’ from boardgamegeek site, this will give a better feel for the effects of wind direction upon the age of sail ships, without requiring processing time on a main frame computer! The ships are still readily available on e-bay despite WizKids no longer producing the models.… Read more »
Happy Sunday! Need to play more Saga!
Boarding WAS a still a major part of sea battles in Trafalgar. That was how ships could be over-run, removed from the battle and gained as an asset for future use. Trafalgar pretty much centres around the Victory, Nelson’s Flagship. He wasn’t for sitting back on a hill observing his squares of men moving about a realistic map; Nelson plotted his battle plans with all the ships commanders and then led from the front. It was leadership by choreography rather than orchestration; a very different dynamic to Wellington. Back to boarding; as Nelson thrust his Victory forward and penetrated the… Read more »
** last THROES of the fight.
Darned autocorrect!
So – one minute you’re going on about how much concrete was used to line these tunnels… the next you’re suggesting there may have been a branch line to the castle specifically to move Hitler and all the ‘treasures’.
Just how do you think they got all that concrete onsite?
Dan Snow did a programme with the help of the 2 polish men who thought they knew where it was for the BBC and their hunt for the Nazi gold in Poland . Of course they found nothing
We need a SAGA boot camp!!!!
Yes. Yes we do. Maye a crescent and cross one to reuse all the desert terrain they’re making first flames of war
Ohhhh yeah! That would be cool. Don’t mention that to @Lloyd or he’ll start hassling us about get the Deus Veult starter set…. which I really want to get anyway….. no resist the shiny
Indeed we do!!!!
I already have a good sized Welsh army, but there’s room for a second.
I! Would! Love! A! Saga! Boot! Camp!
Think I may enjoy something like that too
@Warzan and we can do the 13th Warrior, get the lads from 4ground involved and get em over again 🙂
@Warzan, when we’re talking about movies about battles, to me, nothing outshines Gettysburg from 1993, the depiction of the clash between the North and the South during the American Civil War. You can almost taste the atmosphere as you follow the 20th Maine on one side, and the Confederate command on the other. Over 13 000 volunteer re-enactors paid their own way, provided their own props and uniforms and fought the battles presented on screen using the same tactics as were current at the time. At almost five hours, it’s the longest American movie ever made, but you just get… Read more »
Yep Gettysburg and God’s and Generals are staples for anyone wanting to get into the Civil War. The Scene where the Irish Brigades fight at Fredericksburg is a great alagory for the war itself.
I really enjoyed ‘Glory’ as well.
Concur. One of the best movies out there for that battle and the Civil War in general.
Firstly Lloyd and Justin have done a bang up job on their Saga troops. They look really grand, nice work lads. (Lloyd those shields looked the business, nice work) I don’t need another game but between you pair and Warren banging on about Waterloo week in week out I am going to weaken (That Foreground kit ….. 5%^^% me). Warren’s historical piece at the end, I had heard bits and pieces of before…. There are some Art historians who believe that the train carrying the amber room was accidentally fire bombed and due to the unfortunate fact that Amber burns..… Read more »
I’ve never played Bolt Action, but a game in caverns & tunnels appeals to me greatly. I see a pack of this finding it’s way into my trolley next time I’m there: http://www.diy.com/departments/jablite-premium-insulation-board-1200mm-450mm-50mm/26831_BQ.prd
Happy Sunday…
@warzan On Trafalgar I can supply a free two page ruleset that works really well.
In terms of commercial rules. There is a difference between those rules for full scale fleets and the small skirmish one or two ships. So pirate rules don’t always scale up. Sails of Glory works for skirmish levels but does not scale up too well.
Happy Sunday all! Fantastic show, very entertaining, thank you!!
A great accompaniment to the early start painting these Minotaurs!
Happy Sunday!
The 13th warrior is based on a book called ‘Eaters of Death’ from Michael Crichton (Jurassic Park, etc.), and apparently the book is based on a true story. There seems to be a Manuscript Crichton used as his foundation for the book. The ‘furry guys’ have been called ‘wendol’ or ‘mist-monsters’, some scientists have the theory that in very remote parts of the world tribes of Neanderthals (?) survived until the dark ages.
Because the Vikings didn’t know what they are dealing with they believed these people were some kind of monsters or demons. The fear of the unknown! 🙂
My bad the book is called ‘Eaters of the Dead’…still to early. -.-
It is based on Ibn Fadlans trip to visit the Bulgars up the Volga but the book was written because Michael Crichton after discussion bet the could make the Beowulf saga interesting
An interesting aside in the source material used Crichton mentions Abdul Alhazred’s Necronomicon who was the ‘Mad Arab’ who was such a big piece of the Cthulhu Mythos created by Lovecraft
Crichton wrote ‘Eaters of the Dead’ based VERY loosely on a historical account of an Arab living among the Rus Vikings. Some of the scenes are based on his writings (the ‘cleaning bowl’ and the girl being sent to serve her dead master, for example). I’d call it less ‘based on a true story’ and more ‘inspired by’. Not only do we have the (completely made up) caveman cannibals, and the ‘Hollywoodized’ elements (you can not take a grinder to a broadsword and make a functional scimitar), but a lot of what was written in the original account doesn’t match… Read more »
Apologies for the long ‘Actually….’ post. This is one of those movies that gets a lot of discussion in my circle of friends, and its hard to resist. 😀
I like the shields with the battle damage, really nice.
It would be great to see content about test of honour. I have read the article and it looks very interesting.
The Last Kingdom is a series of books by Bernard Cornwell, I know Warren wasn’t impressed with sharps Waterloo but the books are better as usual.
Playing an 8 player Age of the Wolf campaign at our club too, my first ever Saga game was season 1’s battle. Wasn’t entirely sure of the game at first, but I’m learning as we go along, and getting into it more. The game really is about trying to build up those combos. Now in season 4, and my Vikings have been hammered after facing 3 attacks and my own raid in the last season, had to merge my Hirdmen into a single unit of 5, with 2 units of 6 Bondi and a unit of 4 Levy. After a… Read more »
@lloyd really liking those shields buddy, The batle damage adds a lot to the feel of the models. How many are you looking at doing as 4 looks good but I imagine a veritable host of them would look awesome.
@warzan picking up your train of thought so to speak from the mind melter you could blend the true story of that with ‘The Man in the HIgh Castle’ story for some real gaming in the gaps with stuff being built in the US after they lost WW2 and Japan and Germany split America.
@noyjatat about 8 – 12 in the black and red quarters.
Then I’ll be doing other colours etc. I was thinking they will be different for each unit.
@lloyd, very nice buddy. It will be a great way to see who is where with a glance and i hope you keep with the more muted palette for the rest as to me it gives them a real gritty feel.
@noyjatat – not really I went bright, but they still have damage etc.
Thankfully the British changed to grey trousers in 1811 for service abroad (only the guards kept white). So no fear. And yes, I prime grey 😎 Same with the French although they did have white trousers (heavily stained I suppose due to weather and fear..) but grey works really well there too. Most of the uniform jacket is covered by straps and backpacks anyways and it is mainly the arms that are red or blue. I would consider priming the Rifle units dark green but here black will do as well. Painting Napoleonics is hugely therapeutic. I’m loving it!! @warzan… Read more »
Can’t remember who said it but Napoleonic Prussians wore blue not black
“Prussian Blue” by any chance? 😉
Surely not! Must be just a coincidence. 😉
Close enough to the blue worn by the French to have had the temporary effect to cause the French at Waterloo to believe they were being reinforced by Marshall Grouchy when in fact it was Blucher and the Prussians.
Brunswickers wore black.. 😉
Well, some Prussian cavalry did as well but more common for infantry was blue of course!
There was one unit using black uniforms. The 1st Husars the “Totenkopfhusaren” wore black uniforms. These were the guys where the colours for the German Tankers came from.
After short review I have to asmit that there were actually 2 regiments of black wearing Prussians. Leib-Husaren-Regiment Nr. 1 and Leib-Husaren-Regiment Nr.2.
@warzan I need to point out one thing which you may not know, but what my compatriots are very sensitive about. Please do not use other therm than Nazi concentration camps. Polish nation have lost a lot of Poles, Jews, Gypsies, Tatars and many more minorities in those dark places that calling them as you have done is actually a slap in a face to all the historians that trying to fight brilliantly thought and implemented Goebbels propaganda program. No offence taken and I’m hoping you will have a look in to this subject as personal learning experience. Because a… Read more »
Point taken, so what is the correct form of words?
Nazi Concentration Camps in Poland?
I would have thought is was a given when talking about concentration camps that by default you are referring to Nazi operated ones and my reference would be taken as to where they are located?
But again point taken 🙂
Nazi Concentration Camps in Poland. Out of sensitivity lot of us are using this term instead German Nazi Concentration Camps in Poland. Out of sensitivity and out of respect of an open letter publice in 1965 by Polish catholic church bishops to German catholic church bishops “We forgive and ask for forgiveness”. This was just small symbolic step but you need to start with something. Even thou so many years have passed it’s still a struggle to speak openly and without prejudice between Poles, Jews, Germans, Russians, Belorussians, Czech, Slovakian and Austrians about WWII. Even worst it is than when… Read more »
well sayed leigabar ! completely agree.
I stopped at 9:31. Ben should have a flashing light set on the table so when he wants to say something he can activate it and let everyone know! The man is busting with knowledge and must be heard!