The Imperial Knights Make Their Oaths For Warhammer 40k
February 22, 2014 by brennon
Games Workshop surprised us a bit by pushing out the Imperial Knights and all the updates a bit earlier last night. So, the Imperial Knights themselves are now up on the webstore and you can check out a few more of the details without the bad camera work...
Above are the two Knights in all their glory. You can see that they are very, very big when compared to a normal Space Marine and possibly one of the biggest kits they have ever done. I am still very much of the mindset that the second of them, the Templar, is much better looking but it could just be the garish read paint job of the Errant.
We also get a look at different angles around the Knights and they look pretty well detailed as you would imagine from a Games Workshop kit. They don't come cheap of course but if you were looking to fit one into your army I could imagine it being quite the project. I wonder how many of these are going to end up in Golden Demon this year?
They certainly are monolithic creations and I take my hat off to Games Workshop for some of the design going into these. If I could actually think of a use for it in my own Chaos Space Marine army I might be inclined to ponder on maybe, possibly, not...but maybe, getting one.
Alright, I probably wouldn't but they do look cool!
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I actually think AU$155 isn’t too bad a price for that much plastic. You’d pay similar for other hobby kits around here.
Aren’t they the same model just with different weapons and heads?
Yes same models with variants within the kit.
These are the 28mm version of what Epic – then called Space Marine and Titan Legions – did over 20 years ago.
Didn’t the stalker/hunter/lord of skulls also come from epic? Maybe time to go digging into the old stuff and try and figure out what might make the jump to 40k
Think I’m going to buy six 😀
Six models and I have an army, now thats a skirmish force…
They’re actually something I want, the price will moderate my enthusiasm a bit but its not high enough to put me off altogether..
They cost about the same as a colossal for WM so the price seems very fair.
I will definitely be getting at least one of these to paint up.
Really like this, will definitely be getting one or two.
*PP is Resin I believe (not 100% sure) but also metal and includes a Wreck marker, and is only intended as a max 2 buys, so it’s not really comparing like with like given the materials involved. The Colossals are more expensive. These Knights are brilliant though, as usual, far, far smaller than one might think (this is in line with the Epic models though, take a look). £85 out prices many, perhaps most. I big mistake imo. Even with a 20% discount it’s not priced at the point where one might feel like buying 2 or 3 (clearly GW… Read more »
I am so disappointed with PP’s offering on the bigger model front, both from a price and quality perspective. I’m more of a modeller and painter so I pretty much buy only what I find appealing. My Stompa had tons of value for me, the Trollblood wagon felt like a rip-off. The only thing you change with price is who buys it.
Guys £85 is not bad for models that big – and this is coming from me. A single unit of 25 witch elves costs more.
@redben it would be interesting to see a comparison with dreamforge’s titan, because that was basically intended as an Imperial Knight. Games Workshop is actually substantially cheaper, but how will the size compare with dreamforge?
I agree (Kind of) but I wonder are we becoming de-sensitized to the price these days, was the stompa not selling for £50 when it came out?
lol look at some of my other posts and you will see I have not become desensitized to GW prices. It will be interesting to see exactly how big the new Imperial Knight is though. The photo does not give a clear idea of exactly how big the model will be compared to a stompa. In epic, these things were the next step up from stompas, but you can’t tell if that will translate into 40k.
The Imperial Knight stands at 8″ and for the price although I really like the model does not really add up at £85 too much for this model.
..All your saying is that some other really expensive models is the same price as this this model. It doesn’t mean its good value
Is the dreamforge model bad value? Given that it is the biggest model ever made in hard plastic for a sci fi 28mm game it is difficult to judge. How much would you expect a titan that size to cost?
Its a tad taller than the riptide, but a lot bulkier…
It’s only 8” tall which is not massive (but it is to proportion with the fluff), certainly the pictures are misleading (placing the marine forwards to trick perspective) – the Wraithknight is 9”. Judging from the sprue its parts-light, unlike the Stompa which is filled to the brim with stuff – plenty of stuff to convert with.
The Stompa is 7” not including its head (which is 1-3”)
Erm, wouldn’t placing the marine forward make it look smaller than it actually is?
Yeah that’s true. Woops. Brain fart.
I don’t think that the Knights are that small 8 inch checked forgworld a Warhound is only 10.5 inches & Reavers 16 inches. 85£ is a tad high they do look good but.
According to the website, the dreamfogre leviathan is 8.5 inches tall. Whilst it is probably bulkier than the GW titan. It is slightly cheaper if you can get a good exchange rate, but that will depend upon where you live, and with postage and currency exchange it might end up costing more. I expect GW will have more detail on their knights, judging by the photos.
GW website says its 8” – if you look at the pics you can tell it’s small, about 5 times the size of a Space Marine.
Wouldnt be 40k unless an entire arm slot was devoted to wood cutting and paper craft instead of fitting another powerful gun on there .. couldnt one fit space marines with spears inside the lower leg sections? Looks like one would fit in each and it would make sense. Great for keeping charging cavalry from toppling the construct with primitive rope/hook tow cables.
lol
Indeed the boltguns that space marines use are actually the same gun shaped staple guns that I occasionally use for stapling planks of wood, so expect the new titan to have a glue gun to go with it.
Should be a good defence against the Nids they are giant insects after all.
well they do want to ”nail” there enemy’s to the ground 😉
When you start applying over strict logic to a game that includes space wizards (and one really powerful space wizard in particular who is basically a glowing christ figure in golden armour until he gets stuck in his techno-gothic bath chair), a clear anologue to ‘age of sail’ travel complete with ‘sea monsters’ for interstellar tansit, all manner of fantasy tropes and races transplanted directly into sci fi, and a major faction that is basically made up of various emotions and hidden fantasies and desires (which leads one to wonder why Slannesh isn’t actually the oldest and by far the… Read more »
medieval?
40k is mostly based upon classical societies. Only black Templars and space wolves are based upon medieval societies. I would not call Ultramarines or Imperial Fists medieval, they are based upon ancient Rome and Greece.
The original design for 40k was slightly more punk rock, whereas the newer designs are more dark and gothic.
I agree that individual factions draw inspiration from many historical periods; the Blood Angels, for instance, have strong Renaissance influences on their design. But the overarching fictional culture of the Imperium has clear Medieval elements – the Emperor as absolutist monarch, the Astartes as knights, the Inqusition and Great Crusade are self explanatory, the planetary governors as barons ruling planet-wide fiefdoms, the Imperial Tithe beng clearly anologous to the stictly enforced church tithes of the Medieval era, the Adeptus Mechanicus as the futuristic equivalent of the kind of guild structure of highly skilled artisans that was a feature of society… Read more »
The Dark Ages/Early Medieval period were the primary influence on the 40K in its early years. The Imperium was strongly portrayed as the remnants of a highly developed civilisation which had collapsed. There were strong religious elements to the emperor and the space marines and latin was heavily used. Bonded onto that were the fantasy elements that came with transplanting the existing fantasy minis into the setting, and the Nemesis the Warlock/ABC Warriors design-aesthetic and background which was such a big influence on the setting. These minis with their oversized chainswords could have stepped right out of Kev O’Neill or… Read more »
We technically still use chainsaws today …. The presence of chainfists et al in 40K is entirely logical.
Our tech hasn’t reached the level of mechs and titans and soldiers in super heavy armour. When it does, you’ll see our tech possibly become more like what we see in 40K.
The light sabre is also very practical and logical in the Star Wars universe, given the multiple uses.
I understand the thinking behind it, though imo i think theres too much of a gap between the “exotic future tech/imperial mega tanks and artillery/rocket propelled assault rifle ammo” and any kind of extensive usage of melee weapons. Had it been a question of steam punk as tech level it would all be alot less stupid, again imo, and mayhap my perspective is too narrow.
I love the fluff but some of the melee fixation i just dont get along with.
@poosh perhaps the issue with so much melee in 40k is that shooting ought to be more effective in a sci fi setting. Have you ever played epic 40k? I think you will see that the balance between shooting and melee is much better dealt with in the epic scale of the game. Furthermore the balance between tanks, fliers and infantry is much better dealt with (titans are overpower though). This goes hand in hand with all 28mm scale games though. As Andy Chambers said it is difficult to get that balance correct. @redben yes the early 40k was influenced… Read more »
Of all the stupid things I have seen..
Nope, not getting any of them.
not even one?
🙁
Same here.
And that even if they would be an insta-win bonus!
I don’t play Warhammer 40k, but those are super neat looking models.
It’s hard to be harsh about GW when they make models like this. Just stunning. I’m gonna get one and Nurgle it up!
Just starting out after my first tournament and I was deciding on what to get to deal with tanks and or flyers. The price is steep but the knights come out in time for my birthday and they look pretty darn cool, so maybe this will fit the bill. I know an aegis line and quad gun comes cheaper ( both points and dollars), but you gotta have cool points. Half the battle is looking mean the other half is just being nasty enough to kill the other guy, and I think the knights have that covered.
they look rather cool, quite tempted to paint one up black (sort of in homage to dark angel legions colours) for an allies to my dark angels army
I’m a big Epic fan so I think it’s pretty cool, but I personally wouldnt get one as it’s too much money for me. On the flip-side I’m excited to see what people do with this kit! Especially in terms of conversions.
price wise? already Dark sphere and Triple helix wargames are selling pre-orders for £63.75 and Wayland games £72, so it’s a case of shopping around again.
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*£10 postage
Yeah the thing with all those cheap websites is a lot of the time they actually cost the same or barely different when you include costs and postage.
I’ve got an interview for a better paid job. If I get it, the wife’s agreed that I can buy one of these.
But only if we can pick it up in a new car for her.
Totally worth it.
Very, very nice indeed.
Triple Helix Wargames, say on their site, flat rate postage UK £2.99, not bad and the Knight for £63.75, so savings can be made?
cheers
AL