New Horus Heresy Plastic Sprues Spotted Online
July 27, 2015 by brennon
It looks like the Horus Heresy is going to be a lot easier to get into with news from The Waaaagh Studios that there are going to be plastic sets of Space Marines from this era available soon from Games Workshop and Forge World.
You can see some of the sprues they've got pictures of HERE...
The sprues appear to show the regular Mk IV Armour and one sprue also contains a character of some kind. From the looks of it it's a Chaplain and an option to make him into a Captain potentially.
We've been waiting a long time for this rumour to come to fruition and it seems like it's now just around the corner. Interestingly while the hero is made with less emphasis on the customisation the troops are.
Could we be seeing an introductory box to the Horus Heresy from Games Workshop where you get some of these troops inside followed by more kits to follow up?
At least we now know they're real!
"It looks like the Horus Heresy is going to be a lot easier to get into with news from The Waaaagh Studios that there are going to be plastic sets of Space Marines from this era available soon"
Now that is exciting news!
Character sprue appears to have 2 models on it. One in Terminator armour, the other in power armour.
I was going to say that I hope it lowers the entry barrier for people to get in on the HH, but who am I kidding, people are still going to piss and moan about the cost.
So lowering the entry barrier isnt up to gw ?
Face it Dave, GW could pop the cure for all know diseases in the box with the sprues and there are some that would complain.
Yeah or stuff all known disease in there and still receive praise for the 5 man 28mm figures in the box .. 60 pounds only. Does that make any less sense than the above sratement? Cmon guys .. but this is troll feeding so im gonna stop now.
I dunno- all known disease for sixty quid is great.
I think we’d find people complaining that there are five plastic minis stuffed in with their pharmaceuticals.
I imagine the ebay prices on those minis would be pretty low.
yep – we will 😀
but it is a good news – and can convert people “back” to 30k are rules any good/better ( in my case simpler is what i look for) than 40 k?
It’s probably worth pointing out that these spruces also seem to have been designed with 40k compatibility. A HH tactical squad wouldn’t be needing 40k tactical squad heavy weapon options.
Now if they could release Mk III and cataphractii kits in plastic, I’d be very happy indeed.
I noticed that FW produce HH Mk4 and 40k Mk4, and I wondered what the difference was as they seem to have different poses?
If there is no real difference I would get some of each for more variety.
fairly sure it’s just a name difference, same minis, like all the bane blade variants are listed separately on the gw store
Delighted to see this happening at last. I priced a HH Death Guard army a while back and to get the parts I wanted the cost just went through the roof. Hopefull this is just the first line of FW products that get moved over to GW.
Well that is some interesting news.
Nah, I’ll stick with my resin thanks
Personally I think 30k should be left with FW so GW-core don’t mess it up like 40k
I share your concerns. I’m all for GW helping out with a few core plastic kits, but they should definitely leave every other aspect of HH to FW. At a time when it feels like GW’s books are dropping in quality, FW are making the most beautifully produced rule books on the market imho.
Same. HH should stay just resin.
Warhammer 40,000: Age of Horus
How is this comment not getting more comments and thumbs up? Seems such a natural niche/splinter line that GW should be embracing with terminator sized arms. ‘Age of Horus’ seems so much more compelling than just plain ‘Heresy’.
Well the heresy isn’t set in the year 40,000 for starters… Also it just sounds like a knockoff of aos.
I think the similarity with AOS was intended.
To be fair, neither is 40K.
Warhammer 30,000: Age of Sigismund
Unless they are cheaper I don’t really see how this is going to make HH easier to get into?
I am not saying there isn’t a reason, but I am not seeing it.
Resin models that are not vehicles are pretty much as easy as plastic to work with other than needing to use superglue….
I’m worried now because HH is the only part of GW I am willing to spend cash on, and if GW start to mess it around…
The only positive I can see from this is lower prices, and this is GW we are talking about.
GW plastic kits have in recent years come on leaps and bounds in terms of how easily they go together so it could be a lot easier than dealing with a bag of resin parts. Their sprues nowadays are very well made.
Not saying Forge World is hard to put together but the plastic kits would be easier…
The main factor of course is the cost. You would HOPE (and I stress hope) that these are priced lower than the resin from FW.
BoW Ben
I have had my fair share of FW resin and no they really don’t do that good a job. The number of times I needed to file down large parts and loose detail made me doubt ever getting a FW kit again. On the other hand I only got one miss cast in GW plastic in all my years. If they do the entire HH line in plastic I’ll be much happier.
The assumption is that a 10 man tactical squad will cost the same as the current space marine 10 man tactical squad. That would make it considerably cheaper than FW.
I’m going to try and address all the angles that I can on this, and I will try to be as even handed as possible, obviously these are just my opinions: Easier to work with. I think this is pretty subjective when talking about single minis like a Space Marine as the resin is pretty much identical to a plastic in terms of parts and mould lines (probably less mould lines on resin). Plastic is definitely easier to cut though, which will suit if you are keen on conversion work. Packaging FW packaging is great and rubbish at the same… Read more »
The simple reason I’m assuming that these are likely to cost the same as a 40k tactical squad is that this kit has been designed to be compatible with 40k. The sprue contains the weapon options needed to make a 40k squad. I have no idea how big FW sales are compared to 40k sales, but it makes total sense for GW to also want 40k players to buy this. It would not make sense to then price it higher than the current kit. I don’t think it’s a case of diluting the player base. It’s a generalisation but most… Read more »
I just started another long rambling post but to be honest it wasn’t worth the effort of reading through.
My hope is that they will release this at the same price point as standard 40k marines.
My worry is that by doing so they are in effect undercutting their FW sales, so they will in fact need to either keep costs high or encourage more sales somehow.
I think that is the best way to summarise my thinking on this.
I can’t see that happening tbh. They’ll cost more than 40k tacticals purely on the basis they are HH and thats what the cool kids play these days 😛
Well I can see them being cheaper than FW resin, but not by much, thus planting them in between GW plastic and FW resin for prices. The simple reason will be HH is popular so why not milk what they [GW] can from people.
Well it would be safe to assume the box would be in the £75 – 100 mark. And would have to contain at least a 10 man squad per side plus a character and possibly a dread and transport option. If that’s the case you would be looking at £37.50 – 50 for at least 12 HH minis so yeah show me getting that much stuff for a similar price from FW… Can see it selling like the recent 40k boxes to existing players and new comers to HH as a really good value army booster and starter.. Hopefully the… Read more »
I doubt there will be a Rhino in a starter set, it would interfere too much with selling rhinos seperately 😉
Plastic 30k??
I’m doomed!
This is a hillareous thread. The product isn’t even out yet, and allready people are complaining about the pricetag. Seriously?
The sprues look amazing.
Hence my first comment. It doesn’t matter one iota what it ends up costing. Someone somewhere wont be able to afford it, so GW is automatically the Devil lol.
afford it or not, some people will just complain about the ‘big guy’ in any industry whether that’s Apple, Microsoft or GW. Gets a bit depressing after a while
Your compassion for your fellow man is admirable @deaddave .
the warlord costs more than my last car would still love to get one we can all dream.
You know something else even more hilarious?
That you somehow think that your definition of what is or is not ok for people to discuss on a forum is the rule that the rest of us should be governed by.
Something that personally I find absolutely hysterical is that when I discuss the pricing policies of a company in a calm and reasonable manner, explaining my reasoning at length, you actually come along and act as if you have been personally offended by it and rapidly ascend your high horse.
Now that….is funny.
That was directed @nosebiter for the record.
Seriously, don’t type weird passive aggressive comments about what I want to discuss on BoW please, I try very hard not to do it myself even going so far as to qualify my comments with a disclaimer to avoid upsetting anyone with delicate feelings: “I will try to be as even handed as possible, obviously these are just my opinions”
What are you going on about now?
Sorry, thought that was at me lol 😛
Shutup Dave 😉
Looks just like the old stuff. Why the buzz?
For me the reason that Horus Heresy is interesting: The fluff. The nostalgia. The characters/storyline are actually interesting. I like how FW modernised the old fashioned style stuff (eg new old style rhinos). It’s different to normal 40k which, in my opinion, has grown stale. Mk4 Power Armour. It has it’s cons, sure, but if you are jaded with GW/40K then HH is a breath of fresh air. It is very expensive, but for me, as it ticks all of the boxes above, it gives me value for money (and I don’t buy loads of it anyway). As I said… Read more »
Thanks for the briefing @solar . A bit clearer now 🙂 … now if they’d just get rid of those silly bell bottoms…
Plus you can actually play a game of HH without having to figure out how to beat a makeshift, no fluff, no sense, DeathStar list.
Everyone is pretty much on the same level, and you have to go back to basics and use tactics.
Brother G
Not a 40K player (or 30K) but for nostalgias sake I would love to see the “beaky” Space Marine helmets return.
Plastic kits make a difference in other places besides the UK. ForgeWorld has very little presence in the states, and so it is horrendously expensive to order all their 30K stuff. If GW shipped out plastic Heresy kits to local stores in the US it would be cheaper for us (presumably) and allow more people into it. I was in a GW store last weekend and 7 people in there overheard a Heresy conversation and said they would play if they could get troops at 40K prices.
This is actually an excellent point that hasn’t really been discussed. With the Euro being so bad at the moment ordering stuff in Pounds costs a fortune. I’m only trying to get it as far as Ireland and I’m balking at the prices, it must be twice as bad for you guys in the US.
If FW started trading through GW properly then we’d be looking at fixed prices. And the free postage (to ourselves anyway) would go a long way as well.
Thanks for mentioning EU differences as well. I forget England is on its own financial path from the rest of Europe. To be specific about the difference a GW Heresy box could mean to people buying it in the states, the current 40K tac squad costs $40, the FW HH tac squad $95 (for the 10 man boxes) plus shipping since US stores don’t carry it. One of the rulebooks costs $113… $12 less than the new AoS boxed game. So if GW can take over at least some of the operation and produce product at prices that match the… Read more »
in the UK the 10 man HH tac squads cost £61 or $95 ish +p&p of around £7, it’s just the way it is with forge world if it goes plastic it goes GW, and even though the only HH stuff I have is fluffy padding for a 40k army I don’t really want to see GW take control.
Oh Gawd – just when the AoS dust was beginning to settle on BoW, GW throw another hornets nest into the room! People are still tending their wounds from battling their fellow BoWites on the forums over AoS and GW as a whole. Tempers were finally beginning to settle down, tensions were relaxing, blood lust was abating, a semblance of diplomacy was returning to once good friends torn apart by conflict…..and now once again we are forced to take up arms and fight over our opinions of GW.
Hang on……..isn’t that the basic story line for the HH?
Only commented the other day on the silly priced Ultramarine HH mini’s that i would love for the plastic starter set rumor to be true :D:D:D:D
Guess that could be the September box game they seem to like put out, like the spacehulk reprint last year. Ah well screw it if it happens painting debts are only ever meant to be added to not paid off 😉
So long as GW just helps out a bit with rendering some of the HH units a bit more affordable and doesn’t stop Forge World doing their thing with regard to the high end minis and especially the excellent rulebooks, then we could be on to a winner here
HH I suspect will become the AOS entry level game which will bridge the gap to 40k. Gym needs to get fresh players into their core system and HH is the way to do it
In a way Games Workshop is coming full circle. The entry box game for the old Epic 40K, was a Horus Heresy box set. Horus Heresy was the setting because the box only came with Space Marines, so they had to square off somehow.
I’ll stick with the crate of Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine plastics I have. I’ll need to strip the paint off them because back in the before times I used to really glop the paint on thick.
Found a really good paint stripper for plastic and metal (not resin) called biostrip stuff is amazing stripped a lead dread back to metal in 20 mins with minimal fumes I had repainted about 5 times with a mix of enamel and acrylic paints left to gather dust for 20 years. The do a sample bottle for £3…
Sounds good, where did you buy it from?
This sounds exactly what I’ve been looking for. I’ve melted more plastic minis down the years trying to get paint off them.
Googled it and found a few references.
This is a link to it on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Biostrip-Paint-Stripper-remover-remove/dp/B00BBX8TRQ
Must order a bottle and give it a blast. Thanks a lot for the info Tim!
they look good would like a better picture before buying any.
I must have missed something. They look just like 40k space marines in my eyes. What makes them Forge World style models?
it’s the MK of the armour, basically the big difference is the terminator, who is in cataphractii armour (4+ invulnerable)
@manpug Different style armour (Mk4, which I think looks much nicer/cooler than standard) and probably different style bolter, not sure which bolter they will include as there are a few different types…
MKIII Iron armour is the nicest :p
the flamers and missile launchers are significantly different
Yeah I sort of like all other versions of the armor more than this one. I’m super excited for a Heresy plastic kit, but at the same time, they definitely picked the style of Marine I would have at the bottom of my pecking order.
Not a bad entry level item, i supposed using Mk IV then they still leave the MKIII to FW which is probably their better selling.
I really hope that FW doesn’t screw up this plastic thing like GW did with the Kastelan robots. That they should have stayed with the FW design and now they look like they came out of the movie Coneheads. 🙂
Brother G
Well, after going to Waagh Studios Facebook site I’m a bit disappointed. First thing I noticed is the backpack design that doesn’t fit the era.
Those backpacks are 40k backpacks ( GW influence to save money not wanting to change a design that they have ready on hand? )
Plus most of the poses and the marines look like they are from regular plastics. The extra character could be just that, a extra special character, nothing more.
I’m not quite convinced this is a HH plastic set, it might be a 40k special ed sprue.
Brother G
PS. And for being something new the pics are very badly taken.
😉
Brother G
It looks like we’re only seeing half of two different kits for the power armour sprues.
There’s 10 torsos and backpacks on one sprue and only six legs on the other.
It seems odd they would be giving two of those to make 10 men, or one to make 6 with all those spare sprues?
Also, there’s no powerfist on either of those troop sprues, yet there is a piece obviously designed to turn a powerfist into a lightning claw…
there are more sprews here https://www.facebook.com/TheWAAAGHStudios/photos_stream inc. convert bitz to make bolters into combi bolters