Forge World Promise Age of Darkness Before The Year Is Out
December 21, 2017 by dracs
The Warhammer Community page has given an update on Forge World's upcoming Horus Heresy rulebook, Age of Darkness, saying it will be up for order before the new year hits.
This new rulebook provides you with all the rules needed to engage with the climactic events of humanity's most desperate time. The rules themselves are adapted from the previous edition of Warhammer 40,000+775423, updated in accordance with player feedback and FAQs. The book is also full of weapons specs, special rules, and missions, and fits in alongside the already existing Horus Heresy volumes.
The fact that Forge World are keeping with the previous set of Warhammer 40,000 rules helps to keep coherency within the Horus Heresy series, as well as provide an outlet for those players who preferred that system to the one we have now.
Do you plan to order a copy of Age of Darkness?
"All the rules needed to engage with the climactic events of humanity's most desperate time..."
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Will certainly be picking it up.
Am a long-term Heresy player and in the aftermath of 8th Ed I have zero interest in this new arcade-40k playstyle, so HH is my bastion of gaming now
8th is for the generation with the shortest attention span.
Sorry…. What are you talking about ??? 😉
Well, I’ve found 8th to be very very simple. It doesn’t seem to suit narrative gaming very well. It seems to be aimed at people that just want a quick and easy pick up game. I mean calling it an arcade game is being nice. If 7th edition was an RPG on a pc, 8th has all the depth and nuance of a game on a mobile phone. Its actually more simple than third edition was, and that was a massive downgrade from second. That, and a game without templates, ain’t the 40k I’ve spend twenty years playing.
Whole “8th is for the generation with the shortest attention span” comes off way that you are actually looking down on those of us that prefer 8th ed and think that you are better because you prefer 7th ed. I expected you to be better than that and actually respect opinions of others.
i knew that mate … I was being silly and doing a lame gag on “short attention span” … None the less you should like new HH rules set then (or 40K 7.1 as a mate of mine is calling it) .. I just checked and it is available now. I hope you had a great Christmas and the new year is good to you.
@mecha82 making an informed observation is not looking down on you. It’s clear from all the new coloured push fit plastics that have been pushed along with 8th edition that they (GW) are trying to bring new life to the hobby. I.e., younger generations that are growing up with a mobile phone in their hand. If you enjoy its, that’s upto you. I respect that. Doesn’t mean I got to agree with it. And I have my own opinion on it which I’ve clearly stated. And yet you won’t respect my opinion? Hypocrisy considering “I expected you to be better… Read more »
@beardragon14 being silly? This is far too serious a conversation for sillyness old boy 😛
Oops ….. *mock sigh** …. I stand suitably chastened 😛
Are you real?
Are arcades current at all? It is like calling it the edition for the “Drive In” generation.
Maybe if you called it iWarhammer? Or the Selfie 40k? WarTwitter? You know, keep it current.
Unless I’m misreading your intent to seem crumudgeony toward this ‘newfangled 40k Edition.’
I refer to it as “arcade 40k” as that is what its been reduced to – an arcade game.
Deep strike is no more than point and click, slow moving tanks can suddenly pirouette on the spot and shoot in all directions, whilst also be rendered all but useless by standing a grot 1″ away from them – as @deaddave said, it’s designed for people with short attention spans
@odinsgrandson take it you aren’t aware that lot of modern videogames have arcade modes? 😛
i’m not sure how I feel or what to make of the decision to keep the rules in 7th edition. Horus Heresy has always felt like old school 40k and this really does seal the deal. I’ve always been more drawn to the HH and if I was going to buy back into the setting it would be with 30k. ultimately I think the rules are secondary to the flavour and feel of the heresy, they always seemed like massive display armies you put down on the table top once in a while to play something truly epic. it’s about… Read more »
So based on this I assume that HH still uses 7th ed rules but with some changes to make it play better.
Correct, and as FW now have it under their wings as a separate ruleset they can adjust and update as they see fit instead of being dictated by the GW studio 🙂
Great books wish I had the money to get them all.
I was curious about this, until you mentioned that is run with 7th Ed rules. That’s the deal breker. I’m out. 🙁
Seems strange to use the 7 edition rules for the book, you would think GW would be promoting 8ed as the latest is greatest.
Then again I don’t have the other books, so maybe it uses try 7ed for the sake of completeness.
Hopefully Forgeworld will not release 8th edition Horus heresy rules in the near future.
FW decided separate HH from 40k and make it it’s own ruleset, and as you say it would mean re-writing all the previous books from the series.
GW are heavily pushing 8th Ed but it is a definite Marmite ruleset – some love it, some hate it (I’m definitely in the latter – I used to play 40k at least once a week, since 8th was released I’ve played once in the last 4 months, and that was a 7th Ed Apoc game!)
To be fair, 7th was pretty divisive as well- I think that a lof of editions are like this.
It is interesting that they have an out for people who aren’t following GW into the new edition. Like Hackmaster, essentially.
I’ve been playing since 2nd Ed, and this is the first edition that’s made me say “Hell no”.
What made 7th divisive was codex imbalance and formation nonsense, with 8th it’s the core rules that are the issue
To be fair there are those us that have other issue with 7th ed as well. And that issue is far too many special rules. Not only in 7th ed you have army specific special rules but also tons of general special rules. Combined with unit type specific special rules it was far too many special rules and army balance issues that you mentioned it’s easy to see why some of us actually prefer 8th ed over 7th ed.
I remember the change from 2nd to 3rd, it was like they simplified the rules set to suit the Pokémon generation… Now its happened again 😛
@wtungsten I think the loss of the lead rules writer is why HH is staying 7th rather than any preference for it as a rules system. Lots of people have lots of different views on 7th vs 8th as they have had with most editions, a lot depends on what you want from a game and what you want from a 30k/40k experience. I have never been one to subscribe to 40k as a particularly good system for anything more than roll some dice, get minis on the table large scale sci fi battles since 3rd. 2nd was good for… Read more »
I had zero interest in 7th edition but I think it’s probably a wise decision to use an adaptation of it to keep the Horus Heresy series going. Redoing all of the books would have been a real pain. If I ever get around to playing HH games I may not use the official rules but I’ll still appreciate having all the army lists use a consistent set. I’d much prefer that to switching halfway through the range even to a much better set (whether that be 8th Ed or something else entirely).
Hope this doesn’t mean a lot of the HH units that doubled up for 40k will get left without 8th ed. rules.
Everything is in the FW Index (https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Imperial-Armour-Index-Adeptus-astartes-2017) and all new releases so far have had pdf rules for both HH and 8th 40k
Hell yeah I’m picking up the greatest thing that FW is releasing.
🙂
I have really considered getting into HH but know of no one in my area playing it. I also have no idea what I would have to buy to even start creating a list, let alone where to go to try and find something competitive to play with.
If you want a marine-based army – these two,
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/The-Legiones-Astartes-Army-List-Collection-2017
and the rulebook mentioned in the post when its released (or 7th Ed rulebook will suffice for now)
Stick with 7th is entirely understandable given the tragic passing of Alan, and it is a necessary easy access to 30k. I probably wont pick this up, didn’t get far into heresy and looked at it as 7th was frankly a mess of a game which the hh army lists did a lot to fix. However, all my big army projects are under review and most are going, and for what I look to 40k for in my games catalog 8th works. Also if the minis stage it will be a while before it is table ready so no rush.