40K Charted: The Chaos Gods Explored – Tzeentch
November 16, 2015 by warzan
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Tzeentch embodies the aspect of change. Whilst Law was about imposing structure and order, Tzeentch breaks these things down. He was initially introduced as opposed to Nurgle, who represented entropy, decay and things coming to an end. Tzeentch embodies the aspects of Chaos that allows magic to thrive because he breaks down the rules of order, and his followers tend to be the most powerful magic users amongst the forces of Chaos. Tzeentch’s hey day was when GW were actively supporting WFRP. He was well suited to the role of the internal threat which schemed and threatened to bring down… Read more »
Apart from the contrast of red and brass that I love about Khorne I think Tzeentch gives you some fascinating options for painting.
I love the idea of metals that are then washed with blues, purples and more to give it a magical and ever-changing feel.
Thousands sons is my 40K army from 20 years now.
I love them: good fluff and good pait schema.
Just a comment : tne oppposite of Tzeentch is not Khorne but Nurgle.
Tzeentch is change and creation. Nurgle is decay and death.
Enjoy the path of change.
I believe that the combinations just spoil the game for me.. just my opinion. If you did play against that Warren then you would spend all of your gaming time looking u p rules, working out how they work together, etc. just makes the game so complex, even for fluff fighters like yourself 😉
these videos have fast become my favourite on the site (even more than the weekenders) and I dont even play 40k. enjoyable and full of interesting backstory, keep up the great work
I am with you on this one . weekender is my top one but this is just after.
Something that was glossed over at the beginning – the emotion that powers Tzeentch is Hope. He’s not just about manipulating plans, he doesn’t that partly because scheming is in his nature but also partly because he feeds off of hope and encouraging people to scheme and drive themselves towards lofty goals and obtaining a better life for themselves is how he maximises that. He’s also about change to such an extent that most fans hold the opinion that he can never allow any one side to ultimately win because that would eventually lead to stagnation which as the antithesis… Read more »
Interesting read, dude. Looks like you know your stuff! I thought I knew quite a bit but most of my “chaos knowledge” comes from WFRP 2nd edition and after so many years, I tend to mix things up (as you must have noticed if you had a look at my comments on the Nurgle video).
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Nice one, that was a bunch of stuff I wanted AJ to mention and you saved me the time to add them here lol! 🙂
Cool read. This is what amazes me about 40k fluff, the detail you can delve into is unbelievable. Thanks for the info. 🙂
I’s lucky Ohzmund didn’t get saved then, because instead of having the Sorceror Ahriman we could now have the Wizard of Ohz…
Great post, saved me writing one to make the same corrections. I was under the impression though that when Magnus tried to make contact with the Emperor he astrally projected himself through the Webway to Terra and when he got there found the portal blocked so he burst through it. Shattering the protective wards the Emperor had put in place to protect the scientists researching the portal and flooding the research lab with Demons with his projected astral form stood in the middle of the Chaos. Also the description of the Webway was a bit off. It isn’t an alternative… Read more »
Never knew that the “troopers” of the Thousand Sons are in fact animated suits of armour. Creepy. I like it!
Still not my favourite chaos God though…
So after what has been said,
The Age of Sigmar is Tzeentch. Armoured shells of hero’s past, (you said turned to dust)
who would of thought of that. Sigmarines.
Saved me the effort of posting same thing 🙂
I always felt that Tzeentch were GW’s version of the Dark Crystal’s Skeksis, but then I am old and refer everything to 80’s movies!
I think there was there a Space Hulk mission called ‘Contract Revoked’ were a Nurgle/Tzeentch (?) renegade (?) had to steel stuff from an Inquisition Space Station leading a gang of Chaos Space Marines…
the Egyptian themed bits from Wargames Exclusive are excellent – i got the gw bits – but they have tiny heads and i had to pin their arms 🙁
A Thousand Sons and Prospero Burns were the first Horus Heresy books I had read, as I’m a big fan of the Space Wolves. I liked how they prefer their own Fenrisian name Vlka Fenryka, or The Rout to “Space Wolves”, especially as I’d always felt that was a weak name, even when I was 11 years old. They were a great introduction to the whole writing style of the series, although I must admit that A Thousand Sons took quite a while to get from the human characters observing the ‘Sons to the marines themselves; well it felt like… Read more »
Both books “A Thousand Sons” and “Propero Burns” are definitely worth to read to get more insight into the Thousand Sons history and background. My favorite however is “The Talon of Horus” by Aaron Dembski Bowden. Read the book and also bought the Audiobook. Great story!
The first chaos codex in third edition had a rule for the thousands sons called “All is Dust”. That particular rule meant that only shooting attacks of strength 5 and above could damage them. This was awesome as it made the majority of a space marine armies shooting attacks useless! This rule was changed in the following codex as it was seriously beardy!
My brother has always been a fan of Thousand Sons (them and Blood Angels tbh) and I can definitely second the idea that Thousand Sons are great marine killers – however, for them to be viable you need to consider transport and the heavy weapon side of things. My brother whacks all his infantry into transports like rhino’s or razorbacks (they rarely last long) but the point is to get them up and into short/medium range where he can shoot up my Dark Angels. Slow and purposeful can be a major handy cap, roll em up the table into a… Read more »
Tzeentch is my homeboy
yeah, poor old Magnus just seems a bit hapless in the Horus Heresy…
Well their you go then, the road to hell is paved by tzeentch then?
a nice informative video guys roll on next week.
I’m sure many of gamers have done this in the past but I use the Grey Knight Codex when playing a Thousand Sons army.
What a great idea!
that would be excellent for Thousand Sons terminators…
well back in the days of old “tell a story and swing the lamp shade” OMG how many years have i been playing this game…
the first plastic marine came out like these, so these are looking good.again,
real put together what you want them to look like marines, with the same armour too :-))
ok back then they were a bit smaller, but not that much.
“And i have still got one or two” about 25 years on. but that’s another story…
love the show, :-))
Do not resist the Lords of Change!
https://soundcloud.com/centurymedia/3-inches-of-blood-lords-of
Has your mind been ‘changed’ @warzan ? 🙂
And on a sidenote; do you really want to make an episode about the Black Library? It will involve lots of prancing Eldar in brightly coloured tights. 😉
C’mon, that’s awesome lol
@aj188 I hope that is the right name… I think it might be a great idea if you gave lists for these ideas you are talking about!
I just did up a topic based off your video here.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/warhammer-40000/forum/topic/fluff-over-stuff-one-codex/
Intriguing video. I did not know the part about Ahriman well. Now I know. Thanks @aj86