Mantic Games and Secret Weapon Miniatures Reach Agreement
February 11, 2015 by stvitusdancern
Mantic Games has announced that they have reached an agreement with Secret Weapon Miniatures to become their exclusive UK and European distributor for their Tablescapes Tile System.
This will save the potential customer a lot of money in shipping costs. The two sets being offered will be the Rolling Hills and the Urban Streets Damaged. With these sets you get 24 1 foot by 1 foot tiles that can be assembled in many combinations, so you can create whatever scenery set you desire.
They do come unpainted which allows you to customize to suit your needs or game genre. This is great news for all gamers across the pond who might have thought about getting this really cool set. They are now availible for pre-order and will ship in the summer around the time of the Kings of War second edition.
Has the costs prevented you from getting one of these sets?
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Do you have to buy 24 of them? I’d love a 3×3 table but don’t want to spend that much to get it and have 15 tiles left over.
Looks like you do http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=125
The forgotten city and scrapyard sets have 16 designs across 24 tiles and the rest have 8 designs.
So I suppose the diffrent options will give you more customisation the next time you set up….far too pricey for me tho I’ll stick with MDF
I think they are still shipping their kickstarter stock. There was an up cock with the KS order to the factory and SW had to release the retail boxes24 to help cover the costs of the extra manufacturing run. I think the idea is once all KS are delivered the remaining stock will be sold in smaller pack sizes. Great stuff but I got a 4×4 set of urban. Eight damaged and eight undamaged. However, there was no set up I could make that doesn’t have four orphan roads up against a non road tile edge. So a not cheap… Read more »
We’re looking at changing the box contents for future Urban sets to include two more straight roads, and two fewer cross-roads based on feedback like this.
The different options will give you more customization the next time you set up – So you have more then one type of playing field to change up your playing surface every game if you want.
The smallest set we’ll have is a 4×4′ setup — in the interim, splitting a 24 tile set with a friend is a great way to go!
Reminds me of that time that Battlefront become the distributor of Dust
OOOHHH THIS MEANS THAT CRAZY BOX WILL HAVE ONE OF THIS!?!?! 😀 ( lol )
The costs have definitely stopped me. I don’t want/need that many tiles. I want sets of, say 2 or 6. 24? haha. No thanks.
Keep an eye out for 4 tile Display Board, and 16 tile sets in the future.
You will still end up needing a 6×4 table to place it all on?
Nice stuff, butstill at 175 quid definitely in the “unecessary luxury” bracket for me.
Wait for games and gears battle boards. About 100 pounds for 6 2×2 boards. I think they look better too. Check them out.
I’d need them to make a 3×3 board so tiles of that size aren’t suitable.
If they ever ship! Going on 8 months behind on Kickstarter pledge! (Not bitter… much!)
While looking better is certainly a subjective matter of opinion, the current price I’ve seen quoted is either £140 or £150 — which isn’t much of a difference.
But these are also WILDLY different products. The G&G boards are completely flat, with no raised detail, and are much more comparable to the various gaming mats on the market.
They also do not have a problem with no good layouts due to tones of massive 8″ roads on 12″ tiles
You’ve raised this issue before, but it’s not actually an issue, as demonstrated by this handy dandy graphic:
http://www.secretweaponminiatures.com/images/Roads.gif
The layouts work out just fine, as the sets are geared for foundation tiles intended to hold terrain.
It will work for low terrain games like warhammer, but not games like infinity. There are already gameing setups for infinity cropping up on the net that have real issues with 8″ roads. I have also watched unboxings that show just how much road you end up with overall and made a copy on paper to see what layouts would look like. It take one entire order to cross 8” and two to clear it and if you have even 1″ pavement this problem gets bigger. And we all know that is not ideal. The solution that I have seen… Read more »
When I was planning the roads, I put a lot of thought into the scale of the games being played — including Infinity. While your concern is that it takes two turns to cross a road – and it does – my concern was for how big a road SHOULD be. As a basis for Infinity I used some 1:48 cars I have, and one of the great pieces from Antenociti’s Workshop with the idea that they MUST fit two cars side-by-side. Those cars are approx. the size of a Rhino, width wise, and so the road fits perfectly. So… Read more »
I agree that a infinity game needs some more open areas and I play on much more European stile tables. but the problem with the roads is that in all ends up in a straight line every game and the ruins replay ability in my experience. As for roads smaller than 8″ being unrealistic for 1:48 scale I will disagree with you. I grew up in London and live in Tokyo and there are lots of roads were I live do not allow two cars to pass each other, and on lots more you have to stop and pull in… Read more »
This is a reply to qmpsjj to his Feb 14 comment – but for some reason the site won’t let me reply there. I guess you can only nest replies so deep. Anyway…. // As for roads smaller than 8″ being unrealistic for 1:48 scale I will disagree with you. I grew up in London and live in Tokyo and there are lots of roads were I live do not allow two cars to pass each other As I said, my requirement was that two 1:48 scale vehicles MUST be able to pass side-by-side. Are there roads in the real… Read more »
Ive got the Games n gears boards on order from their KS (after seeing them on a Mantic open day) so I would only think about these as an optional extra tbh. £175 is far too expensive though imho! As others have stated, £100 seems the high side of a fair price in my eyes. I think Secret Weapon has always priced things for a low turnover of products and a high profit margin, which seems odd if they are coupled with Mantic that tries to make gaming more affordable. Unless Secret weapon are paying Mantic for the privilege to… Read more »
Forgot to add: there doesnt appear to be anything holding the boards together, unlike the GnG ones that have a clip function. With so many little boards, it could get really messy without anything stabilising them…
There’s a wee cross shaped clip goes into the corner, its down under “innovations” on the store pages.
Ahh, yeah I saw it on their own page ‘proprietary compression clips’. I wonder if I can fit that into a sentance today whilst talking about non gamer stuff. 😛
Hmm we’re back to the balance triangle again: good-cheap-quick, this one is for if you don’t have time to attack slabs of pink foam with a box cutter. In a vacuum it seems expensive, but compare it to the alternatives: use a flat table, spend hours gluing sand to foam, or pay the same price for other companies versions of the same thing (or more if you want GW’s city boards). Selling them in a 24 pack is a bit mean though, I can see a lot of them selling in singles or 4s for army displays. might even be… Read more »
£140rrp from Games and gears.
Admittedly, im getting mine via KS in order to make it cost effective though as they were a lot cheaper.
http://www.gamesandgears.co.uk/dropzonecommandercityscap.aspx#sthash.x4HQ3ZLA.zuFkLZsG.dpbs
I also like games and gears for the overhang ability of their boards. Saves me buying a 4×4 table as I can now use my 4×3 dining table.
The Tablescapes Tiles can cope with overhangs of as much as 6″ on either side of the table — allowing you to play a 4×6′ game on a 3′ wide dining table — but I wouldn’t recommend it. The size of the tile won’t make as much of a difference as the quality of the clips holding them together.
I’ve played many games on my 3′ wide dining table, using the Tablescapes Tiles with an overhang. We just don’t set up our armies along the long edge.
Damn. They had a real opportunity to snatch up a good market here, but at £175 these are prohibitively expensive – they’re no better (price-wise, at least) than the Games Workshop Realm of Battle boards. No sale for me.
Yes they’re nice – but at that price people are always going to wonder whether they’ve that much value given the optionality of such scenery and the alternatives out there.
To many joins, to much chance of damaging the paint or knocking the flock off when assembling, too much time to decorate it all, to expensive, I really can’t see a plus side to these.
I would want to see these in the flesh first
Having seen and played on these boards, I can say they are really nice. They pack up very compact, they are very sturdy when clipped together. They also have border frames to make display boards. We used then with a GW board, the flats, and they were pretty close match, close enough for gaming. The price is somewhat higher now than the original plan, but they were very well priced as a kickstarter, but that is when comparing to regional GW prices, which are not just based on exchange rates. So may not seem as well priced in the UK… Read more »
This isn’t going to retail today. This is something we’ve announced in advance of the launch — and both companies are aiming for a summer release, as outlined in the article.
It is true that we are still fulfilling the last of our Kickstarter backers — but the vast majority, including everyone in the EU/UK/AUS/NZ regions, have received their product. There are a few exceptions, of course, but there always are.
Prices will also vary by region, of course, as a reflection of local import costs, conversion rates, etc. The sad reality of international business. Alas.