Prodos Get Heretical With Mutant Chronicles Kickstarter
February 5, 2014 by dracs
You may already know that Prodos Games, the guys behind the Mutant Chronicles Warzone Resurrection game, will be providing miniatures for the Mutant Chronicles 3rd Edt. RPG currently on Kickstarter. Now we get our first sight of three Heretics for the RPG.
These three Heretics are part of a five miniature set. They each have a great level of individuality, as befits the more singular nature of an RPG, but they could equally find use in the skirmish games of Warzone Resurrection.
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I don’t want to be a douche but if you actually support this kickstarter, well .. you have been warned.
Bad experience with Prodos and / or Modiphius, Poosh?
head on over to their original kickstarter and look at the “comments” section :p I think I was the most kindest but even I had a breaking point
Heh, then I am sympathetic to your situation. In some ways I think that having Kickstarter on the internet is a terrible idea. If someone goes to McDonnalds and finds a poo in their burger then you can bet that everyone in that store will find out about it and that person may well try to spread the word on the internet. If someone was going to do some research before having their first every “burger” at said outlet and they came across that person’s story on the internet they might believe that this is what all customers will get,… Read more »
I’d second poosh’s warning, at least in terms of Prodos. Modiphius I can’t comment on…haven’t back any previous Kickstarter of theirs so I don’t know what their track record is like. Prodos was straight up incompetent with WZR. No one expected the original June ship date to be accurate but it is now Feb and there are still backers without their boxes. (Yes, I am one of them so some of this is bitterness). It would be one thing if they were just getting to shipping stuff out now…but people have been getting their boxes since October. Not being able… Read more »
I got mine mid Jan a day after the deadline… cards missing naturally and a mixed back of quality that differs from model to model. Some of it looks like cheap plastic you get in a pound shop, some of it holds up and is damn good.
Their printed hardback rulebook, however, is a JOY to behold and will take you back to those early days when you picked up the earlier GW rulebooks and become overcome with a child like joy.
I backed the WZR KS and even bought things that were in pre-order after it was funded. I got them like this christmas. I understand that other people have been less fortunate. But apart from this, nothing else is really bad. Almost everyone I know that received their stuff were greatly satisfied. I think they just need to get their things straight.
I can understand peoples frustrations with Prodos. I was in for 4 minis, and when they arrived one (a KS exclusive) had broken beyond repair in the post. However, once I got in touch they asked for a photo of the damage and sent a replacement within days.
The WZ:R rulebook is very, very nice though 😉
As Prodos are only handling the minis side of things though I’m more than happy to chip in on this KS….
These guys surely look interesting.
nahh, I’ll defend Prodos here! I got my stuff in Jan, worthwhile waiting!!! Stuff is amazing,. a step ahead of Forgeworld. Regarding fulfilling and being late! Rly? I got my WWX late! (2 months) Relics (probably I wont see it!), Dreadzone was on time, but quality! It was not worth the money I’ve spend on this Dreadzone, 50% of models scrapped! WZR KS, I blame in 80% backers for this situation, OK partially is fault of Prodos that they have just let peoples to tell them “Give ME more Capitol or Mishima units or else…” Yeap, go to their KS… Read more »
Jeez, where to start…well, ok, the WWX vs Prodos comparison. Yeah, WWX was late from their estimated ship date…by two to three months. If you want to go by that comparison than Prodos, which originally promised June 2013, is late by 8 months going on 9. Are some WWX backers still waiting? Sure. But even if it took another month to complete all orders they would still be ahead of Prodos doing the same job…even if you took into account from when Prodos claimed to start shipping (Sept.). As I said it has been 4 to 5 months since Prodos… Read more »
Well I too am a newbie to this site and just because of posts like this! So a new company with a small KS target and a long dead game with a rabid rose tinted fan group! And an end KS well over 4x the target and a stupid initial release target! What do you expect, let’s not forget this prodos company have designed from scratch over 200 different models and have all but a handful out in a year and a book that almost everyone, even the naysayers, says is stunning. Well done them I say, and yet they… Read more »
Already made another account I see. Same poor grasp of English, ultra-defensive… No, I’m not a rose-tinted fan. Never played the originals games. Don’t own any original models. I backed the project because what they were showing was very promising. Unfortunately due to their incompetence all I have to look at are renders and pictures. As far as I’m concerned they did run off with my money because I haven’t seen a single package or even gotten a single email from them in regards to it. I never once “beat up” on Modiphius. They are a separate company. My warning… Read more »
How can u say the poses are strange and yet u don’t have the models! Sorry mu English isn’t as perfect as yours! I bow to your perfect grasp! Anyway it seems u have ur view I have mine! In ur view mine is inferior to yours cos I’m new here and spell less well than you! Fine be that way! I appreciate your view even if I disagree and I am sorry if I won’t look up at you cos u are forum older and better at writing!
And I’m French so excuse my English ignorance ;]
I’m new here, in fact this link was sent to me who backed WZR also same as me is a big fan of MC, never intended to create an account here but I can’t read this bia..ing… I’m glad Prodos got MC Warzone back! after 10+y of waiting but I’m fed up of guys who think that KS is a NEW AMAZON! its not, you are not buying any s..t, you are supporting company to bring some exciting stuff to the marker for REWARD which you will get once is READY. If you want to make sure that you get… Read more »
“some exciting stuff to the marker for REWARD which you will get once is READY” Which, if you had been paying attention, is the crux of my issue. Hell it is the only issue. My pledge was all Legion and all Cybertronic, the first two on Prodos’ list to make. I did not get vehicles. It was a large amount of infantry but as people in my area have been getting them since October, including one of them that got the stuff he pre-ordered post-KS, I’m fairly certain it is ready. I did not bother Prodos constantly for my items.… Read more »
Anyone who says Prodo’s minis are a step above forgeworld’s is ether insane or a sock puppet. Me and my friends received over $3,000.00 worth of minis so I feel confident that we received a good sample size and I have to say that on the whole, the quality we were promised simply was not there.
Well I have 1 of everything and you are wrong wrong wrong! Some are good and most are great! They are forgeworld or better
The quality is very high standard on some of the models, some are good, and some seem to have been slightly badly molded, and my Judicator (or whatever) feels and looks like a shitty toy from Pound-land. The cards are good but again, some cards were missing. The models are no where near Forgeworld or even Finecast quality. The Rulebook is beautiful, it’s a dream to have, one must declare. Remember, Prodos failed to deliver on their ORIGINAL STARTER SETS, not just the add ons. I am overall happy with what they actually did give me but they should have… Read more »
Agree nothing like finecast, no bubbles, no dusty surfaces. And true scale so hands are not bigger than their heads
I have loads of Finecast and they have no bubbles or dusty surface. See how that works.
And GW make Heroic scale miniatures. That is irrelevant to the quality of the model.
I gave them money for their mutant chronicles kickstarter and I have been regretting since. I got rid of everything I did not paint which was majority of my capitol to recoup some of my losses. I liked legion enough to keep them just barely. I will not be giving them money till they get their shit together. Also to attack wild west exodus for their 2-3 months of lateness is foolish because one they had one less faction then prodos, their heavies came in the initial wave (still waiting on the prodos ones). they prodused at least 8 characters… Read more »
Eh, it’s swings and roundabouts really. I just jumped on to the WWX KS and lo and behold there are upset people complaining. I guess that’s how you know it’s a kickstarter project 😉 I’ve heard great things about the quality of the WWX minis (hard plastic, right? I hear that stuff is pretty sweet) but I’m sure that’s no consolation to the people that don’t have their items yet. As far as I can see, their pledges are 4 months late and it’s hard to tell the genuine “missing items” complaints from the confusion over the multiple waves of… Read more »
Good to hear that Modiphius is on the ball. And yeah, even with my admittedly personal grudge against Prodos even I admit that Relic Knights is perhaps the biggest fail in miniature gaming KS history. It does indeed suck. As you mentioned below if the models don’t arrive to each backer in the group around the same time and if not everyone is happy with it it becomes DOA. I’ve said more than my intended peace on why I’m upset so I won’t reiterate it here. On a personal level it has made me much more wary about backing anything… Read more »
Hoo boy yeah you are not wrong. I suppose that’s an inherent problem with KS that we only started to appreciate in 2013, especially when there is a big gap between pledge delivery and retail. Boardgames and RPGs are a safer bet for the people who want to play them because only one person is making the investment so the whole group can play.. but that still doesn’t make the backer feel any better when his buddies don’t want to play that game any more. Since I’ve just moved away from my gaming group to the middle of nowhere, I’m… Read more »
Pretending to be a transformer on here and yet a space marine on the Warzone Facebook forum where you post your painted WZR models and a part of the community! Funny, so I guess all the ny gang are here explains the concerted effort of negativity here!
To answer you question above, I know the poses because everyone else here in the “NY gang” has gotten their models so I have seen them first hand. Hussars don’t fit on their bases. Capitol soldiers don’t know how to hold guns. The only faction I can’t really comment on is Cybertronic because it is the one I’m getting…or was going to get. Who knows.
Tell you what why don’t you spam this page as much as you can…. Oh you have. Be honest you have a beef and that’s it mr jester. Posting lots doesn’t change that, lots of posts from the same person doesn’t make their pov more important than any other. Just shush now and go and spam another forum
I painted those models before I knew I would have no one in my state to play the game yet. I am a very forgiving gamer I am willing to forgive pastiche 40k aka MC. Doesn’t change the fact that I regretted my purchase since the day they announced alessio. I stayed in because a friend talked me into staying in and he recently sold off all his bauhaus. I stayed in despite my better judgement and that was wrong. I should have never backed the project from the begining. I tried to stay positive and well the punches kept… Read more »
I feel pretty bad for you because it’s clear you are a 2nd tier victim of shiny syndrome and it’s a pain for anyone who is trying to introduce a new game into an existing group of friends / gamers. You get a few of them interested and you all order your stuff in and then it turns into a kind of Wild West showdown to see if everyone can hold their nerve. ..but that rarely happens. Instead, someone flinches and decides that it has taken too long / has heard bad things / there’s no communication / New Game… Read more »
For our gaming group it’s the Warzone (Is finally back)!, nothing new, just refreshed 1st and 2nd ed, maybe not perfect, and its not 1st one but, we all start to like it, including the cards aspects.
damn I cant find nothing on ebay, only this Pro painting services :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warzone-Resurrection-Praetorian-Stalkers-w-Close-Combat-Weapons-pro-painted/171233998890?_trksid=p2050601.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D207%26meid%3D4610259268579283098%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D1112%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D171233998890%26%26clkid%3D4610268741213602848&_qi=RTM1562569
And this as well, pro painting services:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warzone-Resurrection-Capitol-Heavy-Infantry-Squad-pro-painted/171234002360?_trksid=p2050601.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D207%26meid%3D4610259268579283098%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D1112%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D171233998890%26%26clkid%3D4610275373433416601&_qi=RTM1562570
and Prodos Painting studio guys:
damn some skiled painters they have.
Actually siygess it was the friend who sold off the bauhaus who did the talking to get me to part with my money. So in a sense I was left holding the bag.
Then he deserves a swift kick in the nuts lol
Well, that or you put all your stuff in a box and when WZ:R starts to gain some momentum (could be a while..) and he starts to regret getting rid of his stuff, you can pull out your army and rub it in his face 😉
Well, at least there is a lot of new models coming out and Imperial! I hope it wont take them “forever” this time! ;] This could be breaking point. Our group is waiting for this, if prodos makes Imperial outstanding but not broken then I can say that the WRZ will fly again, how knows, maybe it could as big as in ’90.
Sadly I think for WZR to really succeed they would have to throw their current priorities out the window and do something that would make the existing backers very unhappy. But that’s another story..
maybe thats why I am still holding on to the book and my dark legion.
All I know is that it’s going to be real amusing come the summer, when everyone’s minis start melting =)
Im having an out of body experience. Just thought Id add that. Whats this link about again?
Big WZR shipment received here, finally. Hang in there and dont give up, it took some extra time but was well worth it.
Atleast they have designed proper rules and arent overcharging for their minis. It is very much possible to get a playable force for a very reasonable price.
If I had to say what should be the priorities of Prodos, it would be in these steps
1-Get the KS pledges done and keep regular updates on their status.
2-Start making the models of the book who aren’t already made (they are actually doing this presently).
3-Start Imperial.
4-Start producing the models in high quality plastic (this was one of their initial goal).
I think once this is all done, people will have a hard time finding someting to complain about.
Hah! Okay I wasn’t going to do this because it’s veering pretty far off topic but.. what the heck. I think in order for WZ:R to find the traction it needs to build up any kind of player base then Prodos need to do the following: 1) The writing team need to stop ignoring the forum. They need to put out a version 1.2 of the PDF rules which corrects every error the current forumites have found and clarifies every rules query the KS backers have raised so far because almost every one of them is valid. They also need… Read more »
One of the issues with KS is that though you become an investor of sorts in a specific activity, you have no control or real influence. If a company gets their sums wrong what is to stop them launching multiple consecutive KS campaigns to generate monies to complete the previous ones. At some point the Pyramid scheme will go pop. Not aiming that at Prodos or any entity in particular but its a risk with the lack of enforced clarity. KS controlled staged fund release would help, they wont do it though.
They won’t cause it’d simply be unfeasible for the KS to do it. They’re essentially preorder system, not a financial institution. If you KS something, you have to be aware you’re buying a cat in a bag. It’s a risk and you have to decide if the offerings are worth the risk.
I am so enthusiastic about the book, the annoyance at the kickstarer does leave. Most of the miniatures are solid, I think it is growing pains. When I picked up the Rulebook which was easily worth more than the £30 they ask for, it sent me back to the old days of the old Warhammer books where the whole experience inspired you. Kickstarter is healthy in that it shows people up front what Capitalism REALLY is like, rather than the BS we’re fed in schools and the media. It’s tough, and Kickstarter shows us the risk and difficulties that surround… Read more »