Necron HQ Breakdown: Necron Overlord & Royal Court
November 11, 2011 by darrell
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Warren and Darrell discuss the main HQ choice from the new Necron Codex... the Overlord and his Royal Court...
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You’ve made a mistake on Cryptek gear. When you choose a Cryptek’s Harbinger affiliation, they automatically get the weapon (ie, Tremorstave for the Transmogrification, Eldritch Lance for Destruction, etc.). It’s the two wargear pieces which have to be unique and are one per Royal Court. So you can have 5 Tremorstaves, but only one Harp of Dissonance in a single royal court.
When it says everything you apply preferred enemy to everything, then in the rulebook on page 75 it says that “this ability does not work against vehicles without a weapon skill”.
You can argue all you want that you have preferred enemy against vehicles, but preferred enemy doesn’t work against vehicles, so it a moot point
Yup that nails the lid shut on that one lol!
Nope. Codices overrule rulebook.
I’m really liking the look of the new book. I don’t play a necron army but they seem really balanced if I play against them, unlike against other ward armies where it always seems to be an uphill fight for the whole game
I have to agree with that final tagged on rule.
Its like taking a five year old to a sweet factory, showing them endless bars of chocolate, and forcing them to leave with a single curly wurly.
First army thats interested me since the blood angels though, I have to say (and blood angels interested me because they were my first ever army back in 2nd edition), I like the idea of necrons, and I kind of like the modelling possibilities.
Its a really good new Necron codex this one – a lot of character and it makes the Necrons an interesting and viable ace for narrative battle reports.
Something which you see in evidence in the newest White Dwarf.
Love the character and all these new special characters and HQ choices.
With Necrons so far I am liking more from Overlords than from special characters. I will use Overlord so for some time and I pick special charachter only if one of them turns out to be better than all other HQ options.
Here’s a question, but first the scenario: Say I have 2 Overlord Characters, and thus am entitled to take 2 Royal Courts. For each overlord, I take 3 Lords/Crypteks (A,B,C and X,Y,Z). Now say I have 3 units of Immortals (let’s number them 1,2,3). Now, according to the rules as I understand them, you can’t have more than one member from the same Royal Court ‘joining’ a unit (“Only one member of the Royal Court can join each unit in this manner”). So you can have 1A, 2B, 3C, but never 1AB or 2ABC. Here’s my question. Can I have… Read more »
You should study more maths 😀 Infinity can be in series, dimensions, or even withing a range. For example you have an infinite number of points within one inch. You have an infinity of directions from a single point etc etc. If range was inifinite, it would be a staight line in one direction. So it wouldn’t even go around the planet and hit you back in the head, since that wouldn’t be straight.
Not that its important 🙂 I do get that you’re just kidding btw 🙂
No, no, no, you see, he’s right, you can go an infinite in any direction, it doesn’t mean he can target more than one unit with the Harp, he’s doesn’t have a Multi-tracker! ;P
Oh, and you can’t forget Line of Sight, if he can’t see the enemy, it’s not like he can shoot at it.
@warzan i wish infinite range worked like that! tachyon arrows would be amazing then.
ANY NUMBER of Crypteks – Can be upgraded to a SINGLE specific type – ie 5x harbinger of destruction. as for trying to sneak two court members from different courts into a single unit, i have to disagree. based on the last two sentences of p. 90 in the description of the court. “only one member of THE (does this include one court or both???) royal court can join each unit in this manner. otherwise, they remain part of the royal court.” so would the criteria for identifying the valid royal court member in a unit be as follows? is… Read more »
as for the cheating refered to in the vid this could be avoided if you mark each cryptek when you buy it so if it is a harbenger destruction mark it as H.D and so on
Hi Warren, I don’t really get your argument about the “balance stuff by points cost” issue. True, there are a lot of items that the Crypteks can have, and I think the sheer amount might confuse some people. But the rule that you can only take one of each unique items is not really hard to grasp. On the other hand, you cannot always balance by points cost. Say you want a cheap item, but you want it to be only once in the army. Would you then let it cost 200 points when its worth only 10 points? Doesn’t… Read more »
Pyromancer vs. Avatar. Wailing Doom is melta. So it’d destroy the avatar if it’s rebounded. But the avatar is immune to melta. Problem?
Warren, I watched all the vids this week, great work, However, please stop mistreating that codex. What has it done to you!
I have heard you talk about poor binding on GW stuff, I’m starting to think you might be the one destroying your Books.
Darrell wants a hard back, I think you might need a linen one.
Harbringers of Tranmogrification: “… masters of the science once known as alchemy”
so they are literally ‘Full Metal Alchemists’ xD
you forgot to put the BoW logo on in the background 😛 Still using XP i see, haha
The shroud of despair is AP1 so even on wounding on 4+ its not that bad surely? A template thats half a squad of marines dead immediately. I’m not sure I agree about the criticism about the lack of spam. Thing is, if the points went up for that stuff you wouldn’t see anyone take it as they’d be complaining all the options are too expensive. It wouldn’t solve the solution either as it would mean either people don’t take it at all or that they take a single one – how is that better than what we have here?… Read more »
about the veils of darkness, you can only have 2 crypteks with a veil of darkness, but you also have the vargard obyron character that has a special veil of darkness. coupled with one or two monoliths you could have a large portion of your army teleporting around board and messing around with the other army 😛
Ok, maybe somebody said this already and I know you guys were annoyed with the fact that the crypetks can only have one type of the unique wargera options but I was just thinking. 1: Necron vverlord 1. Cryptec with Harbinger of dispair, staff of light, Veil of darkness 1. Cryptec with Harbinger of dispair, abyssal staff, veil of darkness 1. Cryptec with Harbinger of dispain, staff of light, veil of darkness, nightmayer shroud etc Now these are all unique wargear options, therefore is this not a way of getting around this problem. If anybody reads this let me know… Read more »
You do make sense. But I think it does not work this way for Necrons. For Space Wolves Runepriests it is exaclty as you describe. Same for Fantasy Dwarves Magic Runeitems. But for Necrons I think what the Codex says is: You can have multiple Harbringers of the same kind, but you can only take each option (=item, not item combo) once. So only one Veil of Darkness for one Royal Court. And by the way, you automatically have the Abyssal Staff! So what you can do is: 1. Cryptec, Harbringer of despair (includes Abyssal Staff), Veil of Darkness, Nightmare… Read more »
Check pg. 90. “Upgrade to a Harbinger Of Despair, exchanging Staff Of Light for Abyssal Staff… May then take any of the following-” So the Abyssal Staff comes as standard when you upgrade a Cryptek to a Harb.Despair, we’re cool with that (if he wants to be a Harbinger, he can’t keep his Staff of Light… though, I don’t know why you’d want to keep it). That “any of the following” (Veil & Shroud) would be the unique gear they’re talking about, and you can only take one per court. So in your court, you could have: 1x Harbinger of… Read more »
woops, lol, ninja’d.
can someone tell me the points costs for all the upgrades for the overlord plz?
heres some cheese,, in the codex it says you are allowed 0-5 lords and 0-5 crypteks,,does this mean you could have a court consisting of ten characters? it doesnt mention anything about ther being a 5 model limit to the overlords court!