October 12, 2011 by beerogre
Have any of you seen this weathering spray from Modelmates?
Could this be an alternative to dip?
Tell us what you think. I'm getting some for the studio to try out. I think it maybe needs a blast of matte varnish just to finish the model off... but I'm intrigued!
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It took the paint of the shoulder of the first model
It looks like he’s really rubbing the figure hard. I like the smudging technique he used on the building on the other video. Having to get your fingers in on smaller models than jacks seems like it may bend/break/mutailate the model. I’d probably just deal with their dyes on terrain
@rosspot83 … I would imagine the paint wasn’t quite dry, I’ve done that when using dip on white, as you have to wipe the dip off the raised areas in order to keep the colour bright white.
Your first coat of paint needs to be completely dry before you use any dip or varnish on your miniature.
Best way to try it out would be with a Grey Knight fig.
Im not convinced. I feel it just leaves the model looking dirty and not in the cool weathered/worn sense more like the actual miniature is grubby. I loved how the rail shed turned out but not sold on this.
To be honest, this is what many kinds of quickshade do… Perhaps the color used (brown, glossy) wasn’t the best choice for freshly painted warjacks.
BoW Romain
When I did just get back into gaming and painting a few years back I might have been interested but … I do have a few dips but they seem to be unused at the moment
Eh, not really impressed with the end results. Plus it seems like it would get pretty messy with having to wipe off all the excess and getting the stuff all over your hands. Also, didn’t it say at the beginning of the video to avoid contact with skin and the guy it wiping it away with bare hands?
For a quality finish there really is no subsitute for traditionally slaving over your army laboriously with brush and carefully applied and varied washes. Miniatures are not cheap and I’d rather put the effort into the figures than buy them and knock out fast paintjobs using shortcut methods that look bland and grubby just to get them ‘game ready’.
The age old question : Gamer vs Painter where on the scale are you
Seems a lot more work than dipping/shaking or using a normal wash – have to see the effects in real life to decide if it’s worth it …
I know some people who don’t dip and shake, but use the quickshade as a wash… And even wipe the excess off. But you’ve got to do it before it fully dries. The inconvenient of the spray is that it seems to dry almost immediately, and you’ve got to wipe it with something wet… the advantage is that it covers everything, and leaves a film that can be desirable for some pieces (terrain or ork bits perhaps, arguably not all warjacks). I don’t know about this… I don’t know if the video uses it appropriately. Perhaps I’ll get my hands… Read more »
Well, using a type of wash/shading liquid sprayed on is quite common in my other hobby, so I’ve seen this type of thing before, although I use a clay based water soluble one myself, never used it on minis though. The thing I’ve always been told in model aircraft building though, is seal your original paintwork with a gloss varnish before you start with the weathering stuff. It would avoid the whole ‘rubbing paint off the shoulder’ incident. I suspect that if you used this stuff over a varnish coat, it would be easier to get off too when you… Read more »
Seems alot of messing about for a generally poor result. Dipping is still king I think for that kinda thing.
Never really dipped myself though so have no idea!
The fingers look well weathered.
I think it looks horrible…I’m for the idea in principle and I’ve used dip before, but that just looks nasty, you’ve got all kinds of fumes to contend with, not to mention having to scrub it off. I’d rather just use dip or give a model a wash of Devlan Mud.
Interesting idea, it’ll be interesting to see how it looks with a matt varnish and maybe a highlight at some stage, but beyond that, this video doesn’t quite sell it for me.
it does seem like rather a long shortcut
I’ve always thought that warjack video was a very poor advert for what the weathering dyes can do. Personally I wouldn’t use the stuff on anything smaller or more detailed than that but I’ve had much better results than that video shows on tanks, a Kubelwagen and my not-a-stormraven. I like to use it for things with not so much surface detail where quickshade doesn’t really work (dipped a GW rhino once – it didn’t go well).
Doesnt look like the spray pools like dip or a wash would. The vertical joints in the armour above the jacks heads don’t get any colour, then he rubs off the spray to give highlights and there is hardly anything left. See what results you get and tell us Andy but I’m pretty unconvinced by that video.