Chaos Space Marines Week… Let’s take a first look!
October 8, 2012 by darrell
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The new Warhammer 40K Chaos Marine Space Codex is out and the guys give you a bit of an overview of the changes, plus some teasers on the sort of thing you'll see during the week.
NOTE: Sorry guys, but we've had a few issues with the audio in this video. We think that the nurglings (AKA Sam) have got to the recording equipment. In the meantime we hope you will bear with the sound quality.
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Lower quality video and sound on this one lads?
This is what happens when you dont chain the underlings to their desk.
Will you be doing any battle reports as well? Live or recorded
Ah ignore moi ^^
Have they brought back the Chaos Legion specific rules that disappeared in the last edition, which was really just a Black Legion Codex, ie
Iron Warriors get extra heavy support as they are seige specalists,
Word Bearers get Dark Apostles and all the deamons,
Alpha Legion get stealth and Cultists.
That is one thing i know Chaos players were screaming at, to get the seperate legions back in.
There’s nothing for legions exactly, but buying a mark for your lord makes that god’s elite infantry troops EG khorne Berserkers are troop for mark of Khorne, Plague marines for nurgle etc- with the new force org rules at 2000 points you get two charts anyway, so when you actually have points to spend on extra heavies for the Iron warriors, there’s plenty of dark apostles and deamons in the book for world bearers, and surely the best way to represent alpha legion is with a completely different codex and then only tell your opponent you’re the legion after the… Read more »
There are no Legion stats in the codex. The only distinctives are the specific rules for the special Marines (Plaguemarines, 1000 Sons, Khorn Berserkers, Noise Marines), that a Champion can only lead troups of the same god (e.g. Khorne Champion can only lead Khorne Berserkers), and god-specific psychic power lists. Every Legion can have Dark Apostles, Warpsmiths, Cultists etc. So the only things that separates Word Bearers from Emperor’s Children from Alpha Legion from Iron Warriors is FLUFF. As such I don’t understand why Darrell thinks that “armies will now work best if you stick with a pure Nurgle army,… Read more »
1 video for the first day………
Any way you guys on BoW can find out if the ‘no options’ for plague zombies rule is going to be clarified soon? That’ll be a major hold-up to the zombie lists otherwise. Cheers!
Its disappointing really how many things need FAQed from the first read through, Abaddon has all a mark of chaos that says it counts as all the marks, does that mean he can join any marked unit since he has all the marks or no marked units at all since he has 3 different marks to them? Kharn hits friendlies on a 1 and the enemy on 2+ regardless(even if he’d automatically hit normally), and he has the hatred rule, so he re-rolls misses, are the 1s that hit friendlies misses or just a different kind of hit?
I would say the 1’s are misses since they are not your intended target. But rerolling and still getting a 1, means that one chaos dude got in the way of Abaddon, not once but twice, and deserved his beat down. You don’t get in the way of the practically closest Son of Horus.
Kharn not abandon but if anything that just means your point carries more weight…
There are other things too- like improving your armour save by 1 on the boon table, Its not clear what it means so you could argue you get a 1+ armour save in termi armour, then there’s the question is it a flat out improvement to the save or is it a dice modifier so weapons of the same AP as your starting save still ignore your save…
You couldn’t argue that you get a 1+ armour save for a simple reason “A model can never have an Armour Save better than 2+” pg 2 of the BRB. So if you have termie armour and get the +1 armour save boon it effectively does nothing.
exept for all of us nurgle players who nikked our feel no pain ?
Erm…I’ve just noticed the toilet in the background…behind one of the display cabinets…is this the feared bog of Slaanesh?
Hey don’t you go making fun of Darrell’s throne!
That is where they put the 5ed book right before 6ed came out.
No, I am not being snarky, that actually happened.
As long as people can make armies that follow a close theme of there choice and that theme can be rather competitive I’ll be happy.
First, I was waitin for the new codex just to get my new 1k sons army
Now, I love the new tactical options I can get combined with my guard army!
Btw, any way you guys could get Warren on screen for some other video’s… We need someone to hit Darrel with the rulebook more often
allies are great, especially for chaos. Traitor guard, demons… fluff opportunities are great
Looking forward to the week a lot of chaos players are upset that they haven’t got themed legions like in the golden ‘dex of 3.5, so will be nice to see what bow think they can do with it.
wtf the sound is all rubish :O!
That is pretty bad that its just another black legion army list, The legion specific rules added a bit of diversity again for example, Iron Warriors had access to Imperial Artilery as heavy support, it didn’t have to be done via allies, if i recall. They just added variety like the various space marine codexes do.
Not sure why they don’t make separate army books like normal marines, or perhaps that is what is planned? Maybe not though as you can sorta make an army I guess, but here is to hoping.
Thinking of painting my Space wolves as Luna wolves, think they would hold true to any of the marks then 🙂 Would be awesome to see a wolf lord riding a forge fiend!! 😛
Simple, there are already too many dexes in the development cycle to add another 4-5 covering specific legions. Personally I think the solution is to add in a system like the old SM chapter traits to allow them to cover everything in one dex while still giving you the option to customise your army. Another option would be to do it in articles in the shiny new WD ala the old Chapter Approved. You could easily do one codex with all the basic stuff and then do options in WD for new leaders/units that would modify the FOC. Like taking… Read more »
maybe slightly of topic here but it looks like you can’t take a demonic sword (abaddon excluded) in the new codex, unless i’ve overlooked it. the only upgrade daemon weapons that i can see are the axe of blind fury and the black mace. the reason I bring it up is because of the dark vengeance chaos lord, tell me that doesn’t look like a daemon sword.
same here dont know way they changed deamon weapons. mind you this means my khorne lord might survive a game now but wheres the fun it that