yeah its happend before it should work later tonight

Necron Lord with War Scythe and Mind Shackle Scarabs….best Sargent Type ever 🙂 Then you can through in the armor upgrdes and your laughing.

This actually happened to me once. a SM squad charged my Firewarriors and my Shas’Ui Challanged the Sergeant with a powerfist to a duel… and then punched him in the face.

I laughed so hard I hurt myself.

I now use a powersword and melta bombs on all my champions, it seems to work well and be cheaper than a power fist

what happends if there not a sgt in the squad like greyhunters *say my rhino blows up and takes the wolfguard with it* what do you do with challenges then

doesn’t the power axe go last now (with a +2 S buff)?

The Powerfist Plague Marine would live through most troop character challenges. Actual some of the HQs seem to be a good match against regular Plague Marine Sergeant. With the Grey Hunters, since they are no Characters, there can not be a challenge. You can say that they are literally fighting as a pack to survive. I already got rid of my power fists and power weapon sergeants and just purchased another full tactical squad instead. There are so many objectives including the line breaker so it just seemed a need to do so. Plus flamers and multi meltas come free… Read more »

i can’t find that if you are fearless you have to accept the challenge, only if it is a 1 man unit
also if you have powerfist sergeants, you can still use them for vanguard normal veterans so they can’t be challenged

tervigon also looks nice for challenges but he is not an upgrade character :p

Maybe the following setup would be the solution.

Squad without attached leader: Sergeant > powerweapon (Swiss powerweapon if you want to be the smart one)

Squad with attached leader: Sergeant with powerfist

If a challenge is issued to the 1st setup than youre serge and the opponents serg are likely to go at the same time.

If challenge is issued with 2nd setup than its tough luck for the opponents serge as he has to deal with that HQ that will most likely kill him.

One of my PK Nobz once beat Vulkan he’stan. My friend rolled really bad on his hits, so only 1 hit or something, but didn’t wound. Then my nob came in and crushed vulkan xD it was rather funny since the nob was on his own (30 boyz died)

I still use my justicars with hammers and dark angel sergeants with powerfists.

I’ve been to a few tournies now and they still seem to work more often than not. I still think they are worth it.

In stand alone tactical squads I’m going with power sword, bolt pistol and melta bombs. Cheaper than the PF guys and usually lives long enough to get those 3-4 AP3 attacks. The MB is better against vehicles than a PF & works now against MCs.

If I’m putting an HQ with the tactical squad, then I’ll play the Sarge with a combi-weapon and powerfist.

It does also come down who the Dice God’s favour.

It’s also a good note that purchasing a powerfist and a lightning claw both count as two specialist weapons, therefore giving an extra attack depending on which you would like to use in that assault phase.

In 5th I used to run a unit of ork boyz with a tooled up warboss in it to give it that extra punch, I honestly don’t think it’ll work as well as it used to anymore as he is going to be challenged at every opportunity. His powerklaw attacks + attack squig just won’t be tearing apart the enemy infantry like it used to.