AvP Gets Crushed by the Latest Stretch Goal
November 17, 2013 by dracs
The Aliens vs Predators Miniatures Game has seen a phenomenal level of success on Kickstarter, so much so that their next stretch goal aims at creating something pretty big; a giant Xenomorph Crusher!
The Alien Crusher is a massive monster, charging in with its heavily armoured crest with enough force to damage even armoured vehicles (an intriguing idea as it opens up the possibility of vehicles in the game).
The miniature itself will stand on a 50mm base, bigger even than the Royal Guard models, making it the largest miniature made for the game so far.
If you want to see this monster crushing Predators and Marines alike head over to Kickstarter and help to reach that stretch goal.
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The Queen is said to be comming on a 120mil base! Yep, Prodos and Mark have said that much. Yikes, gotta gets me one a those for sure.
I love the whole Aliens/Predator franchise. But this Kickstarter just screams rushed/half arsed/over priced.
What makes you say that? I get no such feeling from it.
I meant rushed and half arsed. overpriced is in the eye of the beholder.
All the silly little errors and mistakes they were making at the beginning. It just felt as if they weren’t fully ready to launch the Kickstarter. Which if what i’ve read is right, then they weren’t, but had to start it anyway due to promises made during licensing.
hmmm. I don’t get that impression. I have certainly seen better run KS but have seen a whole heap of worse run ones. and i’m not sure it is actually that over priced considering what they are. plus there is still 11 days to go for it to get better value.
When it first hit KS I would have sided with you regarding the price for the game, now…. ARE YOU CRAZY? It’s an awesome deal for models, especially how they have just given a lot of people an extra £25 to spend on add-ons + 2 free add-ons of your choice + face huggers….. 😀 The only thing I hear screaming atm is my girlfriend “something, something, bank account, red side. 😛 hehe
Then they aren’t doing a great job explaining it. Your post seems at odds with the grid they have summarising the pledges.. At the moment if you pledge the base game, you get one beserker, one model of your choice, one “add on” which is at the most a couple of aliens, and some face huggers. TBH there are other boxed sets I’d rather get for 75 pounds, and other kickstarters with better discounts. I work for a company that deals with manufacturers. Volume discount on 180k is going to be massive compared to 30 or even 100k. Once you… Read more »
If you read the opening paragraph of the KS page:
“In late 2014 there will be a large scale produced version which will include 1 or 2 piece plastic versions of each model and will be independent of KS.”
So yes there are plans for plastics later on, and I would guess this will tie in with the release of the wargame side of the project.
No, these plastics are for the boardgame. You think they’d release 1 or 2!component plastics for a wargame? With the money they’ve raised they could do plastic for the wargame if they intended longterm support.
I’d suggest you go watch the Q&A video on the KS page 🙂
For the price, you have to consider that this is a deluxe kickstarter exclusive boardgame version, containing 31 to 35 RESIN models. They will release the boardgame with plastic miniatures in late 2014, but the sculpts will probably be differents for the base set models. Models are multipose for the most part, so it won’t be 3 exactly the same on the table. The only thing that seems less planed is the sculpts for the stretch goals. But I can see having to work with the movie studio that needs to approve any image you release doing that. They said… Read more »
The minis look great. At the add-on prices, a £75 boxed game has £140+ of content (I don’t know what price for the tokens, cards, rules). And this is BEFORE you get into the free add-ons, and exclusives – Berserker, £10 add-on and £15 add-on, and since £185K has just been passed, the top two pledge levels get another £15 of add-ons.
Waiting on gameplay video, some rules outlined, images of castings other than the painted versions already seen.
For a small company, Prodos are doing a bloody good job.
I like the look of it, and I love the franchise, but I don’t really see it getting to be any more than a board game. That’s why I’m only getting the starter set and some addons such as dice. If I increase my pledge any more than that I’m just getting duplicates, which is why was confused when the stretch goals started turning into extra addon credit.
To talk about the boxed game having £140 worth of contents is a bit spurious – those values have been assigned by the folks running the kickstarter. There aren’t products on sale at those prices in ‘shops’ – and I am not convinced there could be. £30 for the crusher model demonstrates, in my opinion, just how over-priced these minis are. When GW charge that for a model on a 50 mm base, the internet seethes with nerd-rage. That would be a product that is immediately available. With KS there is always a sizeable weight. I would much rather have… Read more »
+1 I don’t value the contents at the 85 pounds I’d have to pay to get it. Even then, it’s a kickstarter, not a shop purchase. If the quality isn’t great, I have no legal recourse as I would for a normal purchase. To counteract the “risk” of kickstarter, you need to offer good quality. Look at the price on the sentry guns, I’m frankly amazed. I thought for sure, I would be buying an AVP based miniatures/board game. Myth is a perfect example, or how much value you can offer by setting your aim a bit higher, and aiming… Read more »
I will never support a game based on a movie franchise as it will never be supported beyond the first release, unless it goes super nova in sales. If we all look back you might recall a minis game based around Starship Trooper and they only had a few years of licence and it had no choice and come to a halt. This game will be no different unfortunately.
I don’t think SST’s demise had anything to do with license issues. Mongoose were actively developing a completely new faction for it when It crashed.
IMHO, it was the failed move to pre-painted minis that killed SST and nearly all the rest of Mongoose’s miniature game lines. Some of them resurfaced later, SST did not — there license issues probably played a part.
As for AvP… It doesn’t look like a really good deal and I don’t have the cash to spare anyways after splurging on Mars Attacks…
Just put my Get to the Chopper pledge in.
My friend put her Get to the Chopper pledge in.
Then we put a joint Stronghold x2 pledge in for Battle Systems.
🙂
@manpug -Starship Troopers was great though, wasn’t it?! I still have all the minis in the garage 🙂
Yes the models where nice.
Would love to invest, but still not got my Warzone yet 🙁
WERE ON AN EXPRESS KICKSTARTER TO HELL! GOING DOWN! AWOOOOOOOO!
@Willy2fly,
You’re not Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. 😛
it is a shame to see such an amazing license not being used to its full potential. The art is inexistant, the card board… well, I dont think they hit the target. the minis will be the only thing that makes that KS worth.
What a waist.
AvP could have been such a buzz.
I am baking the KS for its mini, because I love the franchise, but I could have spent hundreds, I will only spend a little.
All the people shouting “nay” should give this project a second look. They are listening now. I think a big reason this one has “limped” a long was they tried more of a teaser campaign then a here’s everything up front campaign like other kickstarters. They did an Q&A earlier today and posted it in the kickstarter. It cleared up a lot of things and showed they have a lot going on for this game (in my opinion). I think it also showed that they weren’t unprepared as we think. I think a lot of it has to do with… Read more »
Oh and one thing I forgot in my rant above. Warzone was their first project. The delays and what not they have said were from lack of experience and having to produce 250+ sculpts for that project. They have said they are almost done shipping everything for Warzone on the AVP kickstarter and a few backers have even received there mini’s. The great thing about AVP is it’ll be a fraction of the sculpts at launch and they already have a lot done for it (as seen in the Q&A).
I love the Aliens IP, saw this and wept with joy. Then noticed no gameplay video… then a promise of one… Then still no video… The bottom line is this is a game, I want to see the game (rough prototype, cardboard counters whatever) before purchasing. Simple as. No money from me until I see the game rather than a collection of expensive minis and bits of cardboard (which are a huge miss as well IMO incidentally). If they have no rules, then this is half arsed. If they do, but are ashamed of them, then that’s a huge worry.… Read more »
They actually have a reason for no game play video (There should be one up this week. Worst case there will be fan ones this weekend as they are doing an open demo game at a local store in there hometown) and that is because the one they did FOX said no to it and redo it. They have been having some license issues as I mentioned in my above rant. The game is almost an exact copy of the WARZONE rule set that they have already made. They are using all the core mechanics from that system because that… Read more »
To be fair, Kickstarer at least originally is for the public to invest and donate money to a project they believe in NOT to pre-order stuff.
I didn’t mind the somewhat high prices of Warzone because F*ck You GW, That’s Why, and from what I’ve seen the models are pretty beautiful. I *do* think the high price of this Boxed Game is due to the high quality of the miniatures (resin).
I look forward to it I just bought into it after I saw the Q&A video. I think this game will be pretty good and yes the Kickstarter is to Kickstart the game not a preorder gimmick. and they said the boards are made just like the space hulk ones.
the Q&A was a great one, lots of explanations about their targets for he game. I was very pleased with it.
But I still believe that they were not ready when the KS started. but… I trust they will come back stronger after watching the video.
…. still backing you guys ^^
@poosh, the mini’s aren’t resin, they’re Urathene. Similar to resin, but more bendy, and apparently more expensive and detailed, though I question this, they look as good as FW resin at best, certainly no better, but one would hope with better quality control! Also FU GW … freakin aye.. @ultrasmerf, I guess that’s fair. Creates a worry for the system if Fox are being that anal that they don’t trust Prodos to run with it, Point still stands though, no gameplay, no money. Can you point me to a “Warzone Academy” type video or something? As I said, I want… Read more »
I got a bit of the same worry about Fox. I think it mostly impacts this project because its a tight timeframe (20 days of funding) so a lot of people are in a rush to get as much info as they can. And the whole thing with Fox its not a necessarily a trust issue its a license issue and the license everything has to be approved before the public see it. It is no different for movies or anuthing else in this age of trying to keep things a secret or only releasing it when it is deemed… Read more »
The final couple of hours of Kickstarter madness… backer numbers and pledge totals changing faster than sentry-gun ammo counters…