Assaulting a Stormraven
May 13, 2011 by dignity
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Darrell gives us some tips for assaulting skimmers and flyers... including the mighty Storm Raven!
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If fliers had the wings space incorporated onto their bases positioning your fliers would become a lot more awkward as you’d be basically giving away a free 5 inches on either side to charge at, leading to exploiting a charge at the very tip of a wing to blow up a whole model, which would be kind of silly
According to the BRB, the base is all that matters for assaults.
Flyers are weird, honestly, because it should be impossible for them to be assaulted at all. My Stormraven is several hundred feet in the air, peppering the enemy with fire, how exactly is it being assaulted?
I know they’d be too powerful, but it is on the stupid side of 40k rules.
I could not agree more.
You should be able to attack the entire model when it is loading/unloading.
Darrell is ‘The Basemaster’
Although, thinking more, does that make Andy the Kiri to his Dar?
Now I have an image to give me nightmares.
This is an example of how GW has gone way outside the scope of the game in order to sell models.
I really hope they give these “flyers” which are now counted as skimmers seperate rules in 6th edition in order to at least make it a bit more realistic…
I think the current rules are a kind of a compromise. Otherwise you would have a lot of exceptions to exceptions.
Like realistically (in a movie 😉 ) an IG Special Weapons Squad should be able to assault a Storm Raven 10000 feet in the air from open side doors of a Valkyrie.
And Eldar players would argue that fluffwise Falcons are exactly the same way flyers as Valkyries. In 2nd ed when they were introduced to 40k they had several flying modes like “close to the ground”, “combat altitude” and “high up” (i don’t remember exact names).
I think that with addition of more flyers and skimmers in each new codex can only lead to the inclusion of a new rule that clarifies the difference between them regarding movement shooting and assault.
We can only hope!!
I agree, maybe there needs to be an “assault level” height to which the model can then be assaulted, all other times the skimmer must move a certain distance to remain emmune from assault (this would also effect the amount of shooting the model could do).
The recent codexes (IG, BA, DE) all seem to be putting out more flyers. You’d think 6th ed. would have something covering flyers to make them a bit more distinct from skimmers.
Question for Daryl.
Is it cheesily possible to have a full unit of Dark Eldar blood brides use haywire grenades to destroy a rhino and by fully surrounding it, preventing the marines inside from making an emergency disembarkation on a ‘Destroyed Wrecked’ roll? also would this kill all the marines inside if possible? What would ‘Destroyed Explodes’ look like? and would would the marines be able to shoot/charge the blood brides from inside the wrecked crater – should they make their saves.
I’d like to see this video!
Luke from Texas
Edit: Darrell.