Warlord Games Buy 16th Century Pro Gloria Miniatures
December 11, 2014 by brennon
Warlord Games have snapped up Pro Gloria Miniatures and their range of 16th Century 28mm miniatures that would be perfect for their Pike & Shotte game that they have in their library of historical games...
From Warlord...
“Our Pike & Shotte game system is very dear to our hearts and we continue to expand our already comprehensive English Civil Wars and Thirty years Wars ranges. We have long wanted to add the legendary Landsknechts to our offer so when Stephan contacted us about taking his wonderful range on it was an easy decision! Stephan’s choice to come to Warlord Games with his ‘baby’ shows a great deal of confidence in what we’re doing here and we hope this won’t be the last range we bring into the Warlord fold. We are looking forward to making these beautiful models available soon and adding to the range in the near future”.
...and Pro Gloria.
“I am very pleased Pro Gloria is now in such good hands. Between Pro Gloria and my full-time job I wasn’t able to give either the range or its many fans the attention they deserved so finding a good home for it became essential. Warlord Games have a proven track record for taking other ranges on to a different level so this will be great news for gamers and painters keen on this period of history. It was also very important to me that I could remain involved in the development of the range – I simply can’t get enough of 16th century Landsknechts!”
So if you're a big fan of Pike & Shotte and this era of warfare then you're going to have more options under the umbrella of Warlord Games.
What do you think on the news?
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In a way its a shame. Pro Gloria were a good company, I think they were having some problems with the plastics development I hope Warlord let them continue sculpting the miniatures for the range
make some great, characterful mini’s and I’m sure Stephen will keep an eye on his baby – prospect of getting the full financial backing of Warlord to create plastic landsknecht could really do wonders to boost what is already a fantastic set of mini’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORNOFGZgi2w
I do hope so. Hope they develop a new set of rules to replace Pike and Shotte which does nothing to represent the period in any way
difficult to replicate in many respects, particularly in 28mm scale – drifted more and more into Napoleonics (different, but same issues of scale complexity, etc) over the last few years and 6×4’s just don’t cut it any more, either got to be big tables, big units or sink to a smaller scale which is a shame as I love the ever growing number of fantastic 28mm kits in all different periods
tricky one… so many fantastic minis but like you say @torros, it’s getting a ruleset…
@torros and @bigdave I don’t know very much about this period, although I like Warlord’s Blackpowder and Bolt Action Rules. So what defines this period’s warfare? And conversely, why does ‘Pike and Shotte’ not capture it?
I think this is way all my armies are all 3,6 and 10mm now so I can get some decent sized games in. There are some smaller dedicated rulesets out there to cover the period but they dont tend to get much publicity on places like this and TMP etc
For me Pike and shotte just doesn’t feel right, the interaction between different types of units dont work, allowing small units of pike an obviously shotte to wander across the table as their own little unit just isnt the way armies worked at that time. It doesnt really portray units from earlier periods very like the tercio etc..The versatility, flexibility and unique, stand-alone qualities of the major Renaissance battlefield formations are simply ignored and replaced by the linear tactics of a later age If you enjoy the rules go for it, I just think during the period they are meant… Read more »
I’ve never played Pike and Shotte, and can’t say I’m very likely to. In fact, one reason (besides having quite enough other games and models to be getting on with) is that I don’t know what I’m looking for: I don’t know how battles from the period are supposed to feel. My question was not an attempt to change your mind about them, but was purely out of interest. So also out of interest, what don’t you like about Bolt Action? I suppose again I don’t know a great deal about the tactics to be able to judge whether or… Read more »
Like others I dont think their a good portrayal of WW2 especially the weapons ranges. But if people enjoy them then fair enough
I think the main problem I have with a lot of rulesets now is that their too generic. Rules writers try to cover too great a period with one set of rules
I see, thanks.
Although I’m a historian, my background in gaming is fantasy/SF and specifically GW, although I’ve branched out a lot in recent years… That said, although I’m not generally approaching historical games with a good understanding of what battles should be like, one of the points of playing a historical game is surely to try to play something vaguely representative, so I see where you’re coming from.
And so the quest for the rules holy grail continues!
And so the quest for the rules holy grail continues!
And like the Holy Grail probably doesn’t exist and if it does will never be found
I backed Pro Gloria’s Indiegogo, which is set to fail. I’m glad that Warlord have picked up these sculpts, rather than them being consigned to the dustbin of history.
I hope both that Mr Pro Gloria got a good price (he deserves one for those scuplts) and that the plastics aren’t too far from seeing the light of day.
I can imagine that we’ll see them by possibly even next Christmas – Warlord’s got a lot going on with Gates of Antares but plastic landsknecht could do wonders to reinvigorate Pike and Shotte, who knows, maybe we’ll get some updated rules too but could just be wishful thinking!