CMON’s Heroes Of The Night’s Watch Hold Back The Darkness
July 26, 2019 by brennon
CMON has shown off another set of miniatures which will be popping up for their A Song Of Ice & Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game. The Night's Watch Heroes will be a good foil against the cunning and savagery of the Free Folk.
The Night's Watch heroes here will be familiar to those who have delved into the books and watched the TV show. I'm sure many of you know Alliser Thorne who was the architect of a certain person's murder. Whilst all of these particular characters have black hearts and have done many evils in the past, they are some of the most worthy men to pit against the Free Folk and Wildling attacks across The Wall.
The miniatures are looking awesome, lots of them in proper fighting poses which is good to see. Whilst I know a lot of people are going to be using these for their intended purpose, as heroes within a larger army, I think these would be perfect as characters in roleplaying games and maybe even Rangers Of Shadow Deep!
Will you be snapping these characters up when they release on August 1st?
"I think these would be perfect as characters in roleplaying games and maybe even Rangers Of Shadow Deep!"
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These are nice what is the scale like compared to other companies? Are they 28mm heroic?
32mm heroic according to the ‘related tags’ on the left hand side of the article. What that means in 1:X scaling can vary, but most often i’ve found it means 1:48 or there abouts.
Never noticed those before! Thanks for the heads up
You are welcome. For what it’s worth, if you’re interested, i contacted CMON about the scale in 1:X terms and they replied that 32mm ‘is from where the miniature stands on the top of its base to the top of the miniatures head’, which they wrote ‘would translate in to a 1/57 or 1/58 sizing’, though this reads to me as though whomever replied to me is deriving the ‘1/57 or 1/58’ from their idea of what 32mm means rather than telling me what scale the sculpter sculpted in, which i presume they’d know in terms of 1:X. Also, 1/58… Read more »
If you take the average height of a man to be 182cm (6 feet approx), then a 32mm model is 1:57 scale. (32×57=1824)
Yes…. But there are two problem assumptions in that statement. Firstly, i have found that not every miniature producer or sculpter takes 1820mm to be the average height. The average (homo sapien male) height for miniature scales, according to this (oft linked to) web page: http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html, is 1730mm. Secondly, i have found that not every miniature producer or sculpter takes the height (to the top of the head) as the point of reference, but instead some (perhaps many) take the eyeline as the reference point, which according to the same web page is an average height for miniature scales of… Read more »
That’s exactly why talking in 1:X scales is pretty much pointless. What is important is the height of the miniature and whether it is true scale or heroic.
I don’t think 1:X scales are pointless at all and i don’t see a logical way to come to that conclusion. The height of the miniature doesn’t indicate what height the miniature is meant to represent. A miniature 30mm in height ( to the top of the head ) could be representing a humanoid of 1740mm in height, or a humanoid of 1440mm in height, and so on. Noting that it’s ’30mm’ scale, even if specifying that that’s to the top of the head, doesn’t give that much information. Specifying that the scale is ‘heroic’ doesn’t say what has been… Read more »
You’ve already described why it’s pointless. Some companies will measure the miniature from the base to the top of the head, others will measure to the eyes. One company may claim to be true scale of a man who is 160cm while another is heroic at 180cm. They both tell you their miniatures are 1:48 but when you put the two on the same table they look wildly different.
As you can usually find a picture of the miniature you can judge it’s proportions for yourself. So all you need to know is it’s actual height.
I think you have this the wrong way around. 1:X scales can differ slightly because of true versus heroic, but other than that they are standardised. XXmm scales can also differ because of true versus heroic, and because of differences in the average height being assumed ( which doesn’t effect 1:X scales ), and because of differences in where height is being measured to ( which doesn’t effect 1:X scales ), and a whole bunch of other variables besides ( which don’t effect 1:X scales ).
I get the sense in what you are saying but there just isn’t that kind of consistency across manufacturers.
That’s true. I’ve certainly found a lack of consistency. However, my impression from asking for the 1:X scale is that miniature producers (be they the sculpters or the game creators or what have you) either know and care what the 1:X scale is and keep to it, or they don’t, which i think i can largely tell from their response.
Ooh they look really good.
Those look really good.
Those are some nice sculpts.
The sculpts CMON are putting out for this game have really become impressive, though I think I will be skipping this one and getting the Free Folk Hero box instead. Though once they hit $15 on a Miniature Market sale, who’s to say.