Weekender XLBS: What Makes A Successful Kickstarter?
January 21, 2018 by thisisazrael
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Happy Sunday
I kinda of agree about Bright. To me it was just a rehash of the same old genre . It’s no different from films for 40-50 years ago except then the Orc character would have been some other racial minority who none if the other cops like and Will Smith’s character would have been the embittered cynical white cop who hates life and forced to solve some big crime and they would’ve up respecting each other etc etc
Having music on while playing us possibly the most annoying thing I can think of while gaming. Well apart from people using dice towers maybe
Castle looks like 1/1200 or maybe 1/2400. I say these as there common scales for Naval gaming
Couldn’t agree more with Ben’s evaluation of Bright, and particularly about Will Smith’s acting repertoire, (lack of therein!) It may be a little like Shadowrun, but compared to it, it’s very two dimensional, it has very little of the colour and vividness of Shadowrun’s genre. Well done again Ben ; )
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I think you guys should go into this more, the Kickstarter thing because I plan to do one… but the amount of work is phenomenal or at least it is for me, I have talked to the guy who made Fragged Empire on three occasions on how to set things up and each time after he has said you know you could go to Kickstarter right now. But I have felt inadequate my game undertested, my book needing to be redone. Originally I planned to do it as a Pathfinder campaign setting as how the game started out but all… Read more »
Happy Sunday!!
Ben – what do you mean you ‘used’ to play LOTRO? It’s still going and they’re still releasing new areas… Gotta make the most of that £100 lifetime sub I bought during beta … 11 years ago! 😉
You got a life time sub too @coxjul ?? I am not the greatest computer gamer but i still revist this every few months or so and have a blast . It is still a lot of fun
Maybe we’ve met or even raided together?
Oh I still love the game – 500 hours in it! Just haven’t played in a looooooong time.
I’m feeling a BoW outing in Middle Earth coming on?
I got a lifetime sub for £75 during Codemasters final sale before it all got handed back over to Turbine (a long time ago!) I don’t play anywhere near as often as I’d like, but its still a great game to drop into every now and then.
My main rule for Kickstarter creators? If they’d be willing to take some free advise? Go look at the Robotech RPG Tactics Kickstarter, and do the exact opposite of what Palladium have done. Seriously.
And communicate. Even if it’s just a bi-weekly “No new news, just checking in”, or engaging via comments
Found myself agreeing with Ben a lot this week . Actually I probably should say this at least once, I really admire the way Ben approaches his hobby, there is a something about the way that he dooes things “properly” , gets the most from his gaming experience and really gets into it. (I love the LotR stratagey batttle game and the latestr supplement is really fun … I have only one of my gaming cronies playing it with me so my experience is slightly lacking.) My admiration for Ben has nothing to do with his love of Dwarfs and… Read more »
Ben knows what he likes and he gets the most out of it.
Others on the screen (and reflected in the screen) can be far too distracted from a plan by shiny syndrome.
Ben likes shiny too, but only if it fits into and improves his plans.
My new, New Year resolution… Be more like Ben!!
great title to the show…going to have my first KS next year….. do we also find out about warrien and the big mac news….watching soon….
FYI – from the Hate KS FAQ: “You can make a $1 pledge now, and when the Pledge Manager goes live after the campaign has ended you can add more funds to get a full pledge and any add-ons you’d like.” OK so Hate is a CMoN pre-order type KS (establishing print-run volumes and getting positive cashflow) where you know the level of funding isn’t really going to affect anything in terms of development of new content ( the SGs are all in place and are being released carefully to generate hype). But with certain KS where you know that… Read more »
@thisisazrael I love the ideas brewing in my head for a BoW based board game.
Would have to have art by @caesar.
Just one idea I’ll pass on “The Hunt for Justin’s Beard”.
I think a key factor in a massive Kickstarter is the Scarcity Principle. Either a real or perceived “once in a lifetime” deal. Let’s assume you’ve met the entry level requirements of having a saleable product and know your arse from your elbow in terms of putting together a polished presentation. What is going to make a backer accept the risk of paying up front for an unfinished game versus waiting for retail when the product is finished and all factors of a considered decision are known? Scarcity. It’s a economic term which marketers play on to drive buying frenzies… Read more »
Agreed. And in fact it is the reason I pulled out of Mantic’s Warpath Kickstarter. They had a pledge level that was for a huge amount of stuff (no surprise there) that was limited to a certain number of people. Obviously the idea was to encourage people to back at a high amount. Which is perfectly fine and I have no issue with. Then, when those slots had gone, they magically opened up some more. And that really annoyed me. It’s all well and good keeping something scarce in order to encourage backers, but the constant reopening of the “scarce”… Read more »
The main reason the irish don`t have a space programme is because they cannot find a milk bottle big enough………
@brennon I know what you mean with the lotr models. I have recently painted up some haradrim and the model is not that good on the areas around mould lines where the hand and armour meet up.
Cry Havoc can be a game where two players go against one. With the humans expanding very fast, the other players might go for him which can be very dangerous as the pilgrims benefit from being left alone. You really need to find the good balance in who you attack.
My favourite discussion for many episodes.
Few comments
Black Plague fixed a major problem of the original Zombicide series, whereby you could stand all your heroes in one place and kill everything that came at you and level up. In Black Plague you have to hunt down the roaming Necromancers so the stand still strategy will not work. Only ever play Black Plague now. Believe that is the reason Black Plague become more popular than the original.
I loved Guildball so backed Dark Souls.
Didn’t like Dark Souls so didn’t back Resident Evil.
BoW: The Semi-Cooperative Card game. The aim is to complete the weekender before everyone runs out of the Will To Live. Everyone plays a different member of the cast, each with their own starting pool of Will which differs between characters (Ben has the most as he can have his lunch just off shot and eat and drink or watch TV as he sees fit.). Everyone has their own win conditions. For example, Warrens is to drag the game out for set number of extra turns. Justins is to keep it under a set number of turns as he has… Read more »
When @brennon starts talking about truck games however all players automatically lose all remaining will…
Watched Bright last week. Not normally a big TV or film consumer but I was away from home so couldn’t hobby.
After about 30 mins I was bored with the film and spent the next hour ruminating on what an awesome RPG setting it would make.
I agree with Ben, Bright should be a series. The movie had a promising world aesthetic, but the plot, dialog and acting were uninspired. Bright needs to be treated more like Buffy, the Vampire Slayer. It needs more (and more interesting) protagonists. It doesn’t need to be a buddy cop film. It needs time to mature into a more engaging world with people you can sympathize with.
Would it be possible to put a link to the Castle in the show notes? I would love a closer look.
Never mind, I did not pay close enough attention. I now see the link and as I suspect and which they give attribution it is a scaled down version of this STL. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:862724 It looked familiar but was not sure. I have the STL and will see if I can do just as nice of a job to scale down.
great show, i really enjoyed the KS discussion. Az mate i’d be tempted to just base coat and wash those minis. the details look pretty soft on the organics and it might not dry brush well. i think doing that will be good practice before stepping back into bloodrage. it will give you the opportunity to get a couple of the basics down and a sense of achievement as the project is very manageable and much less intimidating than bloodrage. one technique at a time mate, no big rush. bloodrage would be the place to introduce dry brushing. I’d set… Read more »
I’m with Ben. Cards Against Humanity is an awful game. The first time you play it, everyone sits around and has a great time, but he next time… It just becomes a case of “who can be the most inappropriate” and there’s no skill or intelligence behhind it. It’s just awful.
I think the kickstarter thing is going to lose some popularity at some point. Not go away, but will start to lose some popularity as a method of selling stuff and hopefully go back to being about funding passion projects. I’ve had one huge problem with kickstarters I think more and more people are going to run in to. By the time the products arrives a year later my passion for it has dissappeared. I’ve backed a lot of stuff and by the time its arrived the effort in setting it up and learning it overrides whats left of my… Read more »
Good show as always guys although I was getting frustrated on Ben’s behalf when he couldn’t get a word in! I’d love to have a fight in a mythical version of the Parthenon; Ceiling crashing down every time a pillar is thrown or hit, statues coming to life with the use of the omphalus(?) to create extra havoc. The floor cracks every time a god or titan walks and eventually, after it has sustained a certain amount of damage, a crack to the underworld rents open. Yep, can’t think of much more Greek except possibly skellies springing up every time… Read more »