Historicon 2019 Live Blog - Part Two!
Brazen Chariots Philippines 1941
With so many time periods at the show Jim stops off to have a look at Brazen Chariots and what was happening in the Philippines during 1941.
With so many time periods at the show Jim stops off to have a look at Brazen Chariots and what was happening in the Philippines during 1941.
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Maybe another ‘forgotten’ campaign?
Were too many of the hard lessons of WW1 forgotten and had to be relearned the hard way?
Well, super simplifying here … but it’s a campaign on a group of islands … where the enemy has complete control of the sea and air. You see where this is going.
One of the few US wins during 1941 in the Philippines.
I was honestly unaware of the tank battle aspect. Type 95s v M3s … truly a Clash of the Pygmies! 🙂
In other words MacArthur messed up!
Can’t argue with that! 🙂
MacArthur was a failure.
Truly one of America’s worst. Don’t get me started. I shouted enough from this soapbox on the recent Korean War XLBS. Suffice It to say I agree.
@oriskany havent read that, will have to dig it out, which sort of sums up Mcarthur,wasnt he nicknamed dug out Doug as he never left his command post.
Interestingly he is described in the novels based on All quiet on the Martian Front,basically he could come out with Brillant plans but if they didnt go to plan would go into funk and wouldn’t adapt or react any reverses. Not an an expert on Mac’s campaigns but does seem to sum it up over the Phillipines.
The “Dugout Doug” nickname is real, mostly from this campaign (Philippines / Bataan / Corregidor). I’ll sling a lot of mud at MacArthur, but honestly I’ve never read anything that suggested he was a coward (that includes his battles as a divisional commander in World War I we covered in our “Hundred Days” article series). I think he was just a raging friggin’ elitist. In his mind, an officer’s place is the CP, where there is hot coffee, showers, and a bed with sheets. The last thing he was known for was rubbing shoulders with his men or sharing any… Read more »
The novel didn’t make him out as coward sorry if gave that impression, think it was more that he seemed to be unable to comprehend his plans were falling apart and lacked an ability to react to the changing circumstances of the developing battle. A few famous names appear in the martian Front battles , Patton gets badly wounded trying to plug a Martian break through. Nice bit were Teddy Roservelt (as president) with the combined U.S. German fleets catch the Martians trying to sneak up the coast of central America and the pre dreadnoughts have a field day, similar… Read more »
The idea of “Dugout Doug” = MacArthur a coward … no worries, it’s just that some people think that’s what the nickname implies. Who knows? I was just saying that despite all the mud I was slinging at MacArthur (and I have a BIG shovel for that), I’ve just never read anything to indicate that. Just blatant elitism.
Gorgeous table. I’d be scared to play on it just in case I broke something!
It really made control of the roads vital. Because movement off the roads was almost impossible (correctly so) in some places.
a great table with an interesting story.
I’d read about the defense of the Philippines but never this tank battle. It was fun to learn about!
Yup the guy really seemed to know his stuff.Think he didnt realise that you were trying to do a quick overview for a mainly European non historical gamer audience.To me a couple of weeks is still just after Pearl Harbour, though it did probably seem a lot longer at the time with all the things going on. Not just the Phillipines but Japanese Invasions in Thailand/Malaya , Indonesia etc.
Yeah, but when doing interviews, the guest is always right. 🙂 In an eight year war (going by Japan’s invasion of China in 1937), 1-2 months is “just happened.” The point I was going for is that Pearl Harbor’s purpose was to cripple the American fleet to facilitate Japanese invasions across the Pacific and East Asia, including the Philippines (on the table) and other locations you mention.
That’s one awesome table!
Absolutely. Jungle terrain was the theme of this convention and this table delivered! 😀
Both table and theatre appeal very much. That jungle terrain, old Spanish ruins guarded by Japanese scouts or something, marvellous.
I agree with @oriskany , Japanese combat experience and so to speak war experience was a great asset for them. The Sino-Japanese war started in 1931, not to forget.
There are no Japanese paratroopers involved in this Scenario here, right? I remember a photograph from one of my history books showing Japanese paratroopers landing somewhere on the Philippines.
And now for some Saipan, please …
Totally off the top of my head here, but I though the only Japanese paratroopers were put at Celebes or somewhere around there. Could totally be wrong about that.
Yeah, Japanese officers here did have prior combat experience. General Homma, for example, had been commander of 27th IJA Division in China.
Oh, Saipan is incoming! 😀
MacArthur… the table is great though!
Yeah, MacArthur. You just gotta shake your head. I think this was some time AFTER he’d appointed himself Field Marshal of the Philippine Army.
Sadly, I’m not kidding about that.
I know very little about this part of history, but what a lovely table.
The early part of the Pacific War is very depressing. Fascinating, but it’s a lot of defeat and some extremely brutal atrocities.
Fascinating. a theatre I know little about. Thanks fellas
No worries. 😀 Adam definitely knows his stuff!