Some games are built from the ground up to be for the kitchen table, but if your at Historicon this is your training ground before the game gets taken to epic proportions.
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I love the sound of all that
Definitely want to see that table later 🙂
see the table more like sea of figures.
Sounds like it. 😀 I think he said 6 x 8 table and 2000 figs?
leap-sig … @sundancer is having seizures just hearing you butcher that city 😉
It should be more like ‘lie psig’
Oh it’s a long “I”? Cool. But “Butcher?” Hey, eh … your post is a little pretentious, just saying. I’ll have to remember putting anything you post under this same kind of focus.
Get ready.
“Lie p tsig”. A lot of sharp voices. But I can handle this… I can… handle… 😉
Oops yeah I forget that it was a bit more direct than I intended it to be. No insult or disrespect intended
😀
Ive always pronounced it Lipe-zig though I admit Im probably very wrong
🙂
I can confirm that you´re right. To get the z right you could pronounce it something like “tsig”. Verdorrinoeins.
Thanks, @jemmy . It’s kind of weird how many German members (yourself, bothi, setesch, andre77) don’t have an issue with it. Others just like having something to complain about?
Waterloo gets a lot of attention because Napoleon escaped exile from Elba, returns to France and raises an army in no time – it really is a script to a Hollywood movie! It was also the first time Wellington and Napoleon meet on the battlefield – this was the original Rumble in the Jungle – heavyweight champ against former champ! Plus the Austrian and Russian propaganda machines never kicked in as well as the British one did – hell, they even got a Swedish band to sing about it over a 150 years later! Looking forward to seeing this tomorrow,… Read more »
I would just postulate that Leipzig and the “mop up” campaign that followed were more instrumental in truly ending the French Empire. Waterloo saw the end of a gambit to RE-START it … admittedly.
Also, I’m talking out my ass when it comes to Napoleonics. With black powder, my far-and-away preference is American Revolution and American Civil War.
Absolutely! France had already been knocked out by the time it came to Waterloo, it was just like the punch drunk heavy weight boxer coming out of retirement for one last shot at the title, but unlike a Rocky movie it didn’t have a fairytale ending for poor old Boney! It really is a fascinating period of history (not that I know much about it either). Even when the British weren’t physically involved in fighting the French in this time period the amount of money they gave other countries to fight them was staggering. The sound of the guillotines during… Read more »
Awesome, thanks @robert . The part of the “class struggle” domino effect so feared by the European aristocracies with which I am most familiar is the chain of events that helps lead to the Revolution and the fall of Louis XVI … I’m sure it was coming anyway with the way Louis and his ministers were running that country, but the American Revolution 1775-1781 definitely had a direct accelerating, catalyst effect. Ben Franklin was practically worshiped as a god in France, and officers like Lafayette, de Gras, de Rochembeau took back ideas they saw in America with them to France.… Read more »
Napoleon is a poster boy for social mobility though and a lot of the Napoleon Code is based on Enlightenment thinking. My own personal view (and I am certainly not intelligent enough or well read enough to really comment on this type of thing) is that while Napoleon was not without his faults, the British propaganda of the time and subsequent written histories has given the English speaking world a much maligned view of him.
I acknowledge he did a lot for France (administratively and legally, not just militarily), I just have a tough time drawing a line of sight between the “Liberty and Fraternity” ideas of 1791 to a man who (literally) crowns himself Emperor.
Something went a little sideways in the French Revolution.
This is what happens when your Revolution doesn’t have men like Washington or especially John Adams.
But hey, as long as “Emperor Nappie” doesn’t start throwing Force Lightning at people, I’m cool.
@oriskany you’re right about Leipzig. After napoleon royally F**ked up in Russia his veterans were dead, 2000 of the Old Guard were found in a single mass grave which tells you just how bad it is this is what some Historians believe could have made Ney get some form of PTSD. Wait where was I oh yeah after Russia Napoleon wasn’t scraping the bottom of the barrel for men he had no barrel left at this point. After 1813 he was basically trying to retreat and reform the army, recruiting and drilling them on the move hoping that by the… Read more »
@elessar2590 – he was through the barrel and digging into the mud beneath the barrel by that point, eh?
Interesting parallel between the Napoleon 1813-14 and Washington, 1776-77. Although during those ten days at Christmas 1776-77 he’s down to less than 2000 combat effectives at one point. For the summer 1777 campaign he’s doing a little better, offering pitched battles at places like Brandywine and Germantown, but always losing.
Just stay alive … somehow, some way … keep the army together and stay alive …
ill be back.
we’ll be here! 😀
Yeah, you need to go back and check out that table.
Definitely on the hit list for tomorrow.
Name write or wrong, I like when the “little guys” get a chance to be represented at these things.
I am specifically “targeting” the little guys. I think Gerry and I both like the smaller scales a little better, and the big flashy game systems are often a little “simple.” Not always, of course. Also, this game system was specifically requested by a community member, so we try to make the Beasts happy! 😀
English side ruined must use French Rulebook. “le Armee”? what the hell is that? Waterloo gets more attention because it ruined Napoleon’s image. When he left in 1814 he was seen as this noble man who was beaten by the entirety of Europe and if he could take them on one by one then France never would have lost. When he lost at Waterloo that was the final nail in the coffin and most of the French People saw that he wasn’t an invincible genius. It was also the first time the two big names went head to head. Wellington… Read more »
Oh, I admit fully my French is terrible. I usually get away with German, Russian, Spanish even Japanese pronunciation in a pinch. French always kicks my ass.
@avernos, @silverfox8 , and his friend Andrew were part of a FEROCIOUS Napoleonic 10mm game this evening. I took plenty of photos and will try to set up a blog post tonight.
Game in the box sounds good to me.
More people should have showed up to the tutorial. 😐
2000 figures! Some dedication and love has really gone into this one!
Absolutely. You can tell the Gunner is seriously into his history and his game.
The idea of a rules primer game as part of the build up for the full game is really smart, gives the players time to assimilate the rules so they can really get into the main game without being distracted by too many rules questions.
A agree … always start with small scenarios ahead of time. Train the players! Mistakes and rules questions and scenario balance are easy to handle with a few units on the table – 2000 minis … not so much
Those minis are so small, yet you can easily recognize, what they depict. Congratulations to the painter.
You know what, these were surplus RISK figures? I couldn’t believe it. He painted the HELL out of those things.
I have to say that when @warzan, (a while back), was waxing on about ‘Napoleon Wargaming’ I did find myself saying, “You know Dennis, (I speak to myself often as I don’t have a lot of friends close by for quick chats), you should do some Napoleon gaming before all is said and done”. But then I checked into the amount of figures, (to do the grand scale battles), and the costs and decided that I should put that off for a good while. But now this ‘game in a box’ has my attention. ‘Le Petite Armee’ is really not… Read more »
And thanks for covering it Jim @oriskany. ??
No worries, @templar007 ! That’s why I’m here! 🙂
Looking forward to seeing that table.
No worries, we return to this table later! 😀
10mm small BUT hard to pain and he’s painted how many lol
I may be crazy, but I’ve painted 10mm, 15mm, 20mm and finally some 28mm, and I actually find the LARGER scales harder to paint, at least in “usable” numbers. One or two display pieces, sure. But whole armies? I find smaller easier.
I get the feeling many people used to 28mm imagine trying to get that same level of detail on a 10mm or 6mm figure. You’re literally just trying to get an “impression of the color.”
Now painting 2000 of these things, that’s different.
I would agree Jim. The larger the figure the harder it is to paint
Thumbs up. 🙂
2000 figures on the table “next to nothing” – you small scales guys are nuts! 😀
Bonkers! 😀