Jim gets to chat about one of the most iconic battles in American history, the Alamo. This is the pivotal moment in the battle for the independence of Texas.
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It is kind of cool to hear that all the names of the American side are known.
That must have been a lot of research.
This is what makes wargaming so great. Such a great way to learn about history from all over the world.
Thanks, @limburger – yeah, people in the US, especially in the south and definitely in Texas, “Remember the Alamo” very seriously. This game, with its named combatants (historically, the fort fell and all defenders were lost) was definitely a great piece of history brought to life.
The only thing I’ve ever heard was Davy Crocket (sp?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo
Jim Bowie (he invented the Bowie Knife) was there but he was sick in bed with what I can’t remember but it was fatal.
Crockett and his men manned the Palisade Wall which you can briefly see in the video.
Yeah, and Lt. Colonel William B. Travis was the actual commander there, he’s the guy who REALLY gets forgotten (unjustly I feel), overshadowed by Crockett and Bowie.
I think that sort of thing happens in every battle and war …
Sad but true.
There are questions still to this day on if the list is correct. As stated in the video research continues to get a more accurate understanding. Amazing stuff.
Great point, @ghent99 – I’ve always wondered how they knew were different people were at what time when all the defenders were killed. Okay, there WERE women, servants, children who survived, and I think some Mexican accounts record where certain bodies where found. But I agree this is one of those battles that’s always going to be at least a little foggy.
My family is from Ste. Genevieve Missouri where a good portion of the “Texans” settled before heading down there. The Grand Lodge of Missouri dedicated a monument to them and their Lodge there and the list of names is astounding. It always amazes me that they were a diverse group.
Awesome! Man, talk about personal connections to history!
Are old glory running this game. As it was there go to game at the UK shows 20 years ago
No that’s Michael Gesser, personal project for him over years.
Were they home brew rules as well?
Actually yes. Home brew rules.
Cheers Jim
😀
Please, I would like to see and hear about the WW II in the Pacific, Japanese against Chinese, Russians, Americans, British and Dutch.
Then, in addition, some Korean war material and Vietnam war material. Thanks to oriskany I know a bit already, but for knowledge more is always better.
There’s definitely WW2 Pacific – Saipan specifically. Lost of Eastern Front. 🙂
Great history les
Glad you liked it!
THIS! This I’m jealous about. Amazing table and most of us Texan’s would love to play on it.
Great! Yeah, this is why I asked they guy to back up a little and give some background, I know many of our subscribers are in the UK and might not be familiar with the Alamo. But here in the States, especially in the South, and I imagine ESPECIALLY in Texas …
Anything I know about the Alamo was gleaned from an old John Wayne movie, which I suspect may not have been the most historical accurate thing I have ever watched (and I can hardly remember it now!)!
Believe it or not, the Billy Bob Tornton / Jason Patrick movie wasn’t terrible. There was also a miniseries on Netflix I think that covered Sam Houston (one of Bill Paxton’s last roles, RIP) and the campaign that followed – San Jacinto and the rest. Not bad. Not great, but for TV / movies, not bad.
I’m pretty sure I watched that mini-series on the History Channel over here a few years back. It wasn’t memorable but I didn’t stop watching after the first episode.
I liked how it showed Houston in all his glory … and flaws. Also took a more detailed look at the San Jacinto battle than the 2004 movie.
The 2004 movie is mostly accurate and a good watch. It actually has the final battle at night, the uniforms are all (as far as I can tell) accurate which was made easier because Santa Anna Basically just copied the French uniforms and the characters are all faithful if not 100% accurate because well everyone who fought died so we can’t be 100% certain.
It’s got some pretty good action scenes as well especially towards the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfhjYfWilfw here’s the first part of the final assault.
Yeah, simply the fact that they have Lt. Colonel Travis as the fort’s true commander is what sold me (basically) on he movie. And of course Dennis Quaid rocks as Sam Houston.
Nice! I really enjoyed the The Alamo from 2004 and 1960 and seeing it brought to life on the tabletop is amazing!
The 2004 movie wasn’t too bad. Of nothing else, is highlights that this was a four-way command on the American side, Bowie, Crockett, and Travis in the fort, and Sam Houston’s gut-wrenching decisions to more or less leave them to their fate (waiting to gather armies at Goliad and other places).
I love the fact everyone is named. I want to do this for Rorkes Drift. The British side that is. Finding the 4000 other names might be difficult
@avernos is your man on that one. 😀
That’s the game I played at the Derby show many many years sgo
How was it? I asked the guy if the outcome is ever different, it only really is when alternate history is used to postulate a second group of reinforcements that could have arrived later in the siege.
WOW what great researching!!
This guy definitely knew his stuff.
I loved watching the 2004 Alamo movie as a kid and this looks amazing!
I’m going to have to get over the the US and play this game one day.
If you ever need a place to stay in Florida let me know. 😀
Alamo has a great basement.
Once that Mexican artillery opens up, the whole Alamo BECOMES the basement.
beautiful table
Definitely. 😀
@oriskany now that’s what we need to do for a hobby weekend, 15mm Alamo
Get the BoW crew to sign off and we can get started! 😀
Sold, where do we source the mini’s from??
Great question. Not really my department, though. 🙂
@oriskany thanks to the legendary John Wayne we know about the Alamo over here in blighty good or bad lol. hats off this gent for the sheer level of detail research and biographies of the troops.
They definitely did their homework on this one.
A Fantastic looking table.
Absolutely. 😀
Great, I’m learning stuff about American History.
I must try to remember about the Alamo 🙂
I see what you did there. 😀 😀 😀
Little known fact for those in the UK. Phil Collins of Genesis owns a lot of the memorabilia from the Alamo and holds a deep interest in it.
I did NOT know that … 😀
I was able to play in this game and it was excellent. The table was fantastic. On the back on the rule sheet we received was a listing of all the Alamo defenders and where they were located during the battle.
Thanks for “Chipping” in here … (Sorry, had to be done).
And it was great to meet you in person!
Yeah, the game seemed very popular, and it’s got one of the bigger threads here in our live blog!
loved the film sean it when I was a boy, so the found out a lot about this battle and the battle to follow.
“the Battle to Follow” – yeah, the Battle of San Jacinto was the real decisive fight, but the Alamo helped win the time needed to set it up.
Nice one. A part of history I don’t know a great deal about, other than Ozzy Osborne having a … comfort break up the side 🙂
It led to Texas briefly being it’s own republic briefly (nine years) before joining the US as a permanent state.