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    kiranamida
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    I thought it was alright, not amazing but I enjoyed the moments of “oh, that’s (thing/ppace/person from the books), neato”.

    I feel that, all in all, Hammer and Bolter is going to be like Love, Death and Robots was. A lot of different things in different styles that a lot of people are going to have different opinions and reactions to. Going to be hard picking out a single episode to be representative of the series as a whole.

    That being said, this perhaps wasn’t the strongest, most polished option to make a first impression with which might hurt them with the core audience. The audience who so recently got used to such high quality content and had a lot of it [Redacted by the Inquiaition]. I feel like that is going to sting them and they are trying to ignore it until it goes away…

    #1672271

    fishman
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    “It is too bad we will probably never see The Death of Hope finished, or anything remotely similar made. I don’t think GW will sanction that type of horror in animations.”

     

    The grim death of grim dark comes with aiming for the kids market for an adult product. All we will get from now is a nostalgic feel that once things were better.

    #1672284

    totsuzenheni
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    I thought it was a decent children’s cartoon.

    #1672296

    limburger
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    GW never aimed at adults … they just happen to have the money that kids don’t.

    (1) the 24 hour limit to watch it is silly …
    They must be super confident that people will buy into WH+ with minimal info or it is soo bad that they prefer it not to be available for ‘free’ so they can part even more fools from their money by dangling that ‘free’ miniature in front of them.

    (2) the animation was horrible …
    The style isn’t the problem.
    The execution of it is.
    It felt like I was looking at a video with pc that couldn’t decode the frames fast enough for the animation to flow properly.

    (3) the story …
    the crappy execution of this ‘moving comic book’ style made me quit before the proper story started.
    I also doubt we’re ever going to see Oscar winning material in a GW product, so I didn’t have any expectations for this part.

    (3) the voices …
    meh …
    The audiobook ‘prophets of the Waagh’ had better orks.

    I think GW knows their potential audience is desperate enough for  animated content that they know they don’t have to make an effort to introduce non-GW people to their channel.

    I also suspect that linking WH+ to their army list apps is a smart choice.
    You can bet that their official tournaments will find a way to make that app essential … and thus they automagically get enough suckers who have to subscribe to WH+ in order to play the games.

    #1672297

    fishman
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    G’day Limburger, been a while since the Uncle Jimmy Weekenders 😀

     

    I disagree entirely that GW never aimed at adults. The first 30  years of their business was aimed at older youth and adults. The kid market is 2nd generation players whose parent played and now they are getting to the third generation they are dumbing down and aiming squarely at the kids. I have played since the 80s when I was an older teen, my son has played since he was about 10 or so, but was always more keen on Yugioh as a child, and only in the last few years has started to really play 40K. He is now 24, so his kids will be along soon enough. AND That is the market that Kidhammer is aimed at.

    #1672326

    darkvoivod
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    Yeah, the problem was that they expect people to pay for this.
    If this had been a fan animation, it would’ve gotten a great reception.
    We’d be impressed by the work and pasion gone into it and love to share our passion for the IP.

    As GW is a pretty big coorporation by now and wants money for it, we’re immidiatly hardwired to expect more.
    The passion isn’t enough, as we don’t feel the coorporations passion. Now we want profesionalism and this ain’t  it.

    Here’s the thing: None of us would’ve payed for a Astartes if it was required. It was amazing because it was 1 guy doing what he liked. It didn’t have a story. It was some cool images and people probably threw the man some money to show their appreciation for the hard work.
    GW wants our money, but we’d expect a whole lot more than what some fan-animators produce for that.

    #1672327

    zorg
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    Considering the quality of the graphics the people were producing before they went to GW it was very below standard more a kids Saturday show style to the video? like others have sayed.

    #1672336

    limburger
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    @fishman I mean that GW wants little Jimmy to nag his parents about new fancy toys. The 3 tiers of starter sets are aimed at (grand)parents who want to give little Jimmy a new game (it has ‘everything’ he needs to play).
    The 1000$ titans in Forgeworld are aimed at collectors … (and the little kids inside adults who want to play with big stompy robots)

    @zorg is ‘Hammer+Bolter’ by one of their recent aquisitions or is it one of their own teams ?
    I suspect that the guy behind Astartes will be doing something in that style of his own movie …

     

    #1672343

    zorg
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    To be honest I can’t say one way or tuther.

    #1672360

    kiranamida
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    @limburger If I recall, Hammer & Bolter is their umbrella for one of (maybe limited series?) of things that aren’t bigger in their own right, like Angels of Death for example.

    I think we’ll see quite a few animators/styles under the label.

    #1672460

    limburger
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    @kiranamida it looks like the style will be the same, but the stories are supposed to be stand-alone.

    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/18/hammer-and-bolter-spectacular-new-screenshots-from-the-animated-anthology/

     

    #1672461

    kiranamida
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    @limburger Hmm, yeah. I thought that a wider range of the stuff we had seen was under the Hammer & Bolter brand but that seems fairly conclusive in what they are going for.

    #1672485

    iceeagle85
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    It was ok, nothing I’d pay for though.

    I  don’t like that still image animation style but I like stories fron a non imperial perspective.

    #1672668

    limburger
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    @kiranamida blame GW for being very vague on what animations we’re getting exactly.
    I’m not even sure why the different styles are used to be honest. They don’t seem to add anything to their respective material.

    I think even GW doesn’t know how to do art that is consistent with their own branding.

    #1673049

    maledrakh
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    11996xp

    Welp.
    GW has made the choice whether or not to sub to their + very easy for me.

    “2. Warhammer TV

    2.1. Please note that the Warhammer TV element of the Services is only currently available in the following territories: Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Sweden, UK, US. You must not attempt to access or use the Warhammer TV element of the Service outside of these territories.”

    Seeing as I am not a resident of the surprisingly few countries that are listed.

    just WTF. This is an app. On internet.

    Why are they doing this?

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