What will be your last orders before Brexit?

[chaingunParticipant 1939xp 0]

No @sundancer it’s a choice thing you buy your products where it’s best for you and good luck to you. Im glad I’m English and we have such great hobby companies in our country and I support them.

[sundancer 43003xp 1]

@chaingun I just mean that I really don’t have any games that I buy products for (at least at the moment) that are UK based. Maybe I would do “last orders” (unintentionally) if Modiphious would launch Skyrim early. But the last GW product I bought was the 2016 re-launch of Blood Bowl and not much more. Plus if I ever where to start a new system (ok, let’s face it, I will someday) and it would be UK based I’d most likely still get it via my FLGS (if possible) or get it directly. Just not as much as I may would now…

Taxes and customs are a PITA…. :S

[avernosKeymaster 33949xp 0]

Could be both. The last time I ordered wrath of Kings it was via Berlin because CMON are shite and Germany was the best place to get it

[sundancer 43003xp 0]

On the subject, do we have any confirmations on companies branching out to mainland Europe? I’m thinking to have read about rumours that GW would do a 2nd HQ in Belgium? (This might be something for a lengthy news blog or even a video, don’t you think?)

[moonunitParticipant 4506xp 3]

I don’t think it will be an issue for a while at least, we have a few more Prime Ministers to get through before we get things resolved.

[jpmax 4799xp 0]

As A UK based member, I will be placing an order with Warfactory (from Poland) to get some Dust 1947 goodness before the end of next month.

I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens.

BTW love the profile pic @moonunit

[zoidpinhead 12492xp 4]

I’m based in the UK and am concerned about what will happen to the price and availability of my regular hobby products and supplies that come over from Europe.  I have just put in a ‘final’ order for some game specific foam box inserts from Feldherr in Germany as the price and selection from resellers in the UK is not great.

Having had issues with items coming through customs before I’m not looking forward to whatever the end of this mess becomes.  Likely drop in the value of £ sterling, 20% vat to add plus any import duty all don’t look great.  To top it off the post office also charge £8 for the priviledge of asking for the import duties too.  That on its own is usually enough to put off ideas of small orders from international companies.

A genuine concern is where we stand with outstanding fullfilments from some big Kickstarters.  I’m a backer of both Kingdom Death 1.5 and Solomon Kane.  Both look pretty certain to deliver well after this process comes to a conclusion.  At the time I ordered we were looking okay as delivery was EU compliant but that won’t mean anything now.  I’ll have to start saving now if I’m getting stung for an additional 30%+ at delivery.

[shredheadParticipant 5177xp 1]

I’ve compiled a few links here for the Brits who want to do some shopping before B-Day.

Spellcrow cast conversion bits (Sci-Fi and fantasy) and have their own ranges of fantasy miniatures. Very good quality.

https://www.spellcrow.com/

Maxmini also do conversion bits and miniatures as well as vehicles, both SF and fantasy. Shop works despite maintenance of the main page.

https://maxmini.eu/

Pegaso does mostly large scale miniatures and busts, mainly fantasy and historical. Also naughty stuff 😀

http://www.pegasomodels.com/products_en.asp

Puppetswar have a huge range of conversion bits, minis and vehicles of all types.

https://puppetswar.eu/

You all should know Raging Heroes from their amazing range of female minis.

https://www.ragingheroes.com/

All kinds of miniatures and scenics can be found at Taban miniatures.

http://www.taban-miniatures.com/shop2/index.php?cPath=25_41

Probably the cutest miniatures in the history of wargaming can be found on Greebo Games. Mostly fantasy football.

https://www.greebo-games.com/161-bunnilegion

All the scales, all the themes, all the most amazing goodness you can find on Andrea Europe

https://www.andreaeurope.com/en/

Want to scratch that Conan the Barbarian itch? Visit the Forge of Doom!

https://forgeofdoom.com/shop/

Vehicles of most scales can be found on Wespe Models.

https://www.wespemodels.com/index.php?route=common/home

And finally for all the battle mat goodness you can imagine:

https://www.playmats.eu/

and

https://www.pworkwargames.com

as well as

https://krakenwargames.com/

Feel free to add more links!

 

 

[limburger 21729xp 0]

@zoidpinhead I think the big kickstarters (like Solomon Kane) have enough wiggle room for such an event.

It’s the small ones (like Kingdom Death) that have more reason to worry as they may not have the resources to absorb the extra cost.

And it’s not like no one saw this coming, right ?

However … no one really knows what the exact effect is going to be. Delays due to lack of manpower on both sides of the border are probably the only sure thing at the moment.

I kind of doubt they’ll lock the borders and stop all transport if the ‘hard’ brexit option is chosen, because that’d be physically impossible.

[avernosKeymaster 33949xp 1]

@limburger the costs won’t be paid by the companies running the kickstarters, they’ll be paid by the recipients

[shredheadParticipant 5177xp 0]

@avernos I couldn’t find that “Eleven(?)” company you mentioned, if you’d like to throw a link our way?

[avernosKeymaster 33949xp 1]

@shredhead I certainly will Elladan Miniatures

[limburger 21729xp 0]

@avernos it’s always our money in the end …

I never had to pay import duty for big  kickstarters that were ‘EU friendly’ myself.
That was automagically taken care of from their end (probably in the ‘shipping cost’ calculation)

I’ve also had a few without such labels that did require me to pay the duty + handling fees when collecting from the post office.

The only thing that really changes is when you pay for such things.

[avernosKeymaster 33949xp 0]

@limburger not what we’re talking about, @zoidpinhead was referring to the fact that those kickstarters which are due to ship post brexit will incur massive additional fees coming into the UK in the even of a no deal Brexit

[zoidpinhead 12492xp 2]

@avernos Precisely.

@limburger The issue for us is the original schedule for fullfilment had delivery clearly within the likely EU compliant phase of any Brexit.  Solomon Kane was due to arrive in July and is now Q1 next year (current estimate).  Likewise with KD:M 1.5 the Gambler’s Box was due Autumn 2018 and is now likely Autumn/Winter 2021 (maybe), and there is still another Wave after that.  I’ve got around £500 tied up in both of those games and that is using the £ sterling cost values at the time of payment.  Actually I paid in US$ for KD:M and Euros for SK.  That means that should our currency devalue by the expected level (10-20%) their value on delivery will be higher in post-Brexit £sterling (potentially an extra £100).  I’ll then be paying my 30% vat and import on this higher value (so £500 original cost + £100 currency devaluation factor = £600 x 30% tax and import duty =£180 + three lots of £8 Post office admin fee = £204).  So I’m having to find an extra couple of hundred quid just to get products that I had every reasonable expectation at the time of purchase were going to arrive fully paid for.

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