Warhammer Fantasy Battle….'returns'??

[bristolpirateParticipant 965xp 0]

Sounds promising, but I’m going to refrain from feeling any hope until whatever this product is gets revealed (and its level of support).

[totsuzenheniParticipant 5651xp 1]

This could be good news except that….

1. The Old World they are returning to might not be the version of the Old World i want to go back to. I suspect it’s more likely that they’ll be returning to a version of the Old World that was something of a prototype for Age Of Sigmar rather than a low fantasy Renaissance Europe. At the very least it’s going to be difficult to return to a game in which there was a subtle and insidious influence of the chaos powers if canon also tells you that these same chaos powers can and do suddenly decide that they can’t be bothered with all that long game stuff and will simply send in the three headed budget dragon instead.

2. I was hoping that Warhammer Fantasy Role Play products, whether unofficial or official and licenced, would become increasingly free of Games Workshop’s input and restrictions since Warhammer Fantasy Battles was discontinued. I would think that any chance of that has just disappeared.

3. I doubt this means a return to the kind of miniatures i preferred, let alone the kind of miniatures i’d actually like.

4. I didn’t think the later versions of Warhammer Fantasy Battle were a good game and i don’t think i’m alone in this. (I don’t want a Kings of War either.) Are they going to be able to produce a Warhammer Fantasy Battle that anyone will actually like?

[bloodmoonorcParticipant 1763xp 3]

As someone who was heavily invested in the lore of the Old World I’m crazy happy that they’re bringing ‘something’ back from that setting. It’s not as if they’re having to invest in a brand new range of models with the injection and silicon moulds still around. Having said that I’d hope that the quality of the Blood Bowl miniatures feeds back into new models for Bretonnia, orcs etc etc.

[meanboneParticipant 837xp 5]

Imagine the prices in a couple years when this finally hits…

No no no no no. Higher.

[phaidknott 7027xp 1]

The ONLY thing I see likely as a GW reboot in the Old World would be Mordhiem (given the success of NuNecromunda). Given the small amount of minis needed to be sculpted (vs a mass battle game), and the fact you couldn’t “do” Mordhiem in the AoS setting I’m betting this is the one.

[somegeezer 18431xp 2]

A Mordheim reboot along the lines of Necromunda is a definite possibility I’d say. I’m a raging Frostgrave fan but would definitely give that a go!

[onlyonepinman 18072xp 0]

You couldn’t do “Mordheim” in AoS per se because as a place it might not exist. But you could absolutely do a clone of Mordheim set in an equally weird city with small gangs of fighters. I mean, it’s basically Warcry.

[somegeezer 18431xp 1]

I have only a nodding acquaintance with the AoS setting; was thinking of Old World Mordheim.

[phaidknott 7027xp 0]

Well the appeal for most Mordhiem players isn’t so much the game but the setting itself (at the time of release it took a darker turn and went back to a very “Blancheian” aesthetic). AoS is a more high fantasy setting and is more fantastical (and already has a couple of Warband games released). Because Mordhiem would be a limited release (in the scope of minis needed to be sculpted) I see this as the most likely option from GW. The only other one would be some awful boardgame (like Betrayal at Calth), and as any old world minis probably wouldn’t automatically appeal to players who already have AoS armies (or they don’t really cross over in “looks” compared to AoS (High Fantasy vs Quasi-Historical)).

It was also the first game that had the Perry Twins doing “real humans” (or they didn’t all have the heroic cleft chin and muscles), you had old, fat, thin and just plain ugly minis (which was another change from the WFB minis at the time). Although it’s more normal now to see this, at the time it was a bit groundbreaking…

 

[meanboneParticipant 837xp 1]

As much as I love Mordheim, by itself it’s not big enough to warrant an announcement more than two years out.

This appears to be the next edition of WFB.

[phaidknott 7027xp 0]

@somegeezer Basically the old world blew up and everything is in “realms” now with the “Gods” taking a more direct interest in what’s going on (it’s very 70s :D). So all the old “races” are no more, instead they are in alliances (Death, Order, Chaos etc), the Empire got removed (which is what the Mordhiem Game was set in the middle of, but about 700 years before the world blew up, so it was kinda already out of the mainstream timeline anyway…if I remember right). Look at the AoS line and you’ve got flying sharks, mounted bluebottles, and snails, they look great, but don’t fit into a old style Mordhiem setting very well.

 

[phaidknott 7027xp 0]

Don’t see WFB battle coming back in the old world setting (as todays update shows), the “reasons” GW quoted for getting rid of it (it was too expensive for gamers to collect an army, the rules were to dense for GWs target audience (teenagers), and it took gamers too long to collect and paint up an army) still stand today (unless GW have decided to change their target audience). They “might” release the rules alone, but that would be unusual for GW (as their business is selling you the minis), but then things change and anything can happen.

But I can’t see GW starting doing whole armies of miniatures again from scratch, and they would get a bit of a backlash if they just start up producing the old minis again (as the change to AoS caused many to sell off their armies).

 

[torros 23820xp 2]

Just re release Warmaster .It’s the only thing that makes sense

[torros 23820xp 1]

Or the new improved fan version

https://www.wm-revolution.com/

 

[elessar2590 18209xp 0]

I’ll not touch it. Gerry was right them and their horse.

Kings of War 3rd is starting up at our club and once I get Wargames Atlantic Halflings into my hands and onto scenic bases I won’t look back.

“You get the idea – this is a long way off. Years. More than two. Like three or more. Definitely not soon.”

Surely it can’t take them that long. Surely they’re already at the point where they’ve written enough of it to know it’ll be a success or are they monumental idiots who made a “major” announcement before they had a product running the risk of failure?

It took me so long to not see GW as a pack of Cults but congratulations on torpedoing that reputation.

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