Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.
First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.
You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.
If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.
A few other things to note: NO RELIGION & NO POLITICS! Glasgow pub rules are in effect. If you need to make a better point then it is fine, but don’t take the piss. And always keep it civil.
Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.
Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)
And don’t forget the highlights of the weekend: The Weekender on Friday and XLBS on Sunday. And the little show that is the unofficial Hobby Hangout over at twitch.tv
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Questions:
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start?
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan?
Sudden announcements of thinks happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up?
Pledge: finish the Secret Satan, pack it and send it! 8) Also do more TerrainFest and maybe something different as well.
Answers:
Usually I start scribbling and taking note and then start. If I don’t start soon after projects tend to be forgotten. Sadly.
I only tend to participate as a player and I only play fluff lists. So planning is really and afterthought. I loose anyway so I make stuff for fun 🙂
Usually it doesn’t. Because I set aside a fixed amount of money each month for hobby it accumulates if I don’t spent any in one month (as rarely as that happens) But this time. Oh boy did Kromlech do a number on me with this one.
Orktober 2024 Teaser
“We are going back to our roots… Greatcoat style.”
“Orktöber 2024. It’s going to be wunderbar”
I smell stormboys and all the fun marching orcs… I really feel I need to set aside money just for the upcoming Orktöber. 8)
This weeks pledge is to paint a Raging Heroes “Nagash not-Nagash” model. He’s about 12″ tall!
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start? – I tend to commit to year long projects and they stay focussed on them. I may have an idea for the next big project but I deliberately don’t commit until the old project is finished.
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan? – I don’t do events.
Sudden announcements of thinks happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up? – Like you I have a monthly budget which slowly accumulates (especially since I switched to printing my minis which is much cheaper).
Pledge: relates to the planning topic. Given I have basically finished my TerrainFest project on time, I will also plan what I will do hobby wise in November and timebox it. I’m currently considering painting projects in: Middle Earth, Judge Dredd, The Drowned Earth or Barons’ War.
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start?
I write few things down and make some drawings. Nothing that goes terribly far, but just to have a gist of the idea down. I have way more of these plans in my Notes app than even come to fruition.
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan?
I rarely do events and such. And if I do, I don’t commit to anything that I don’t already have ready. Too many variables in my life.
Sudden announcements of thinks happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up?
With my backlog of not-started stuff, I generally don’t need to buy anything. And if I choose to, I’m lucky enough to be able to afford anything I reasonably have time to do with ease.
Pledge is an ongoing for the One Ring rpg using a custom setting the One Ride (Bikers). I’ve outlined the character sheet and renamed many skills… next step a functional character sheet.
I often get inspired on the way to work, at work, or during the night. I make notes asap and later in the day make a more coherent version for the ongoing idea.
Don’t generally participate in events. Usually only go to UK Games Expo and that’s my shopping trip for gaming.
I buy stuff when the inpulse takes me. If I would have to save up for something then it’s obviously too expensive for me to buy. Seldom spend more £50 on single item with the odd exception of a big game upto maybe £150… last one was Shatterpoint. As mentioned above, UK Games Expo is my big splash shopping trip and I allow myself £200-400 for that.
This week I need to finish off Terrainfest which is carrying on from last week. So while I made good progress I have 6 of the buildings left to by Tuesday. They are built and primed so maybe possible.
2 Towers
1 Gateway
6 Buildings
Barrels
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start?
Sometimes years ahead. I tend to have long term projects. For example even before the old world was due to come back I have been building up my old bretonnia army. Picking up models if I see them cheap during the year.
While I do plan out at the start of the year what I want to do often I get distracted by more exciting short term projects. The mordhiem project is a good example of watching some people playing it before it snowballed into a new project.
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan?
Typically when entering a tournament if it requires a new army typically about 2 months. So the first month will be background planning, buying the models building them. I like to give myself 4-6 weeks to get them painted. It is always a bit of panic at the end to get finished.
Sudden announcements of thinks happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up?
I allocated a budget each month for “treats”. Treats can be getting coffee out, take away food, day trip out, going for drinks, video games and of course models. So I have to make choices about what I spend the money on. I found it helps me to cut down on take aways, knowing you can get an model rather than a cup of coffee. If I dont spend it all in the month it rolls over.
Not going to make a pledge this week – my mental health is in the toilet again and I just don’t have the energy to do much more than a day at work and maybe a little Stardew Valley in the evening. If I do manage anything it will be some more skellies.
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start? I am really bad for having an idea and then obsessing over it for days, almost to the exclusion of anything else. I drift off at work thinking about it and I daydream constantly. Sometimes that is enough, other times I’ll pick up a couple of books to fuel it. If it lasts more than a week, I’m probably buying minis (or even worse now, stls) even if I don’t realistically have the time to start the project. This is why I have so many started projects and so few finished ones. Fortunately it tends to only be one box at a time rather than a whole army. It is also why I go through my stash periodically and sell on “old” projects. Poor impulse control clashes with limited storage space and guilt over wasted money.
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan? I also don’t really do events though I am thinking about trying to go to some Kings of War ones next year. I’m also planning a big celebratory game with friends for the middle of next year. In both cases, because of my inability to stay focused on one thing, I have to plan far ahead and chip away here and there.
Sudden announcements of thinks happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up? Like everyone else has said, I have a budget each month for hobby. It is pretty rare that something catches my eye enough that I put money aside for it. I tend to see things and then try to wait until a good deal/sale/discount comes up on it. I finally picked up the Hellboy board game this week because it is on 30% through Mantic. I do find those kind of teaser videos useful though – now I know not to bother saving for Kromlech next Orktober because I hate greatcoat fetish orks.
Not been able to have much music with lyrics but this has been great background music this week:
@gorram don’t push yourself. It’s a hobby. It’s about fun. And if you need a break, take it. Go to bed early, go for a walk, read a book, scare children in the streets when they start Trick Or Treat. 🙂
Thank you everyone for chiming in this detailed in these questions and apologies that I am unable to answer all your posts. It’s a real pain in the butt for me to loose track on all the threads. Maybe next week I’ll come up with one question that really sparks a debate and is a bit more then just a status inquiry.
That being said: it’s Sunday and I need to watch XLBS now if you would excuse me 🙂
I definitely am taking it easy and not pushing myself but equally hobby is a large part of how I de-stress from life. Today was my only day off this week so it was a write-off in terms of usual weekend housework etc. Instead I had a movie day where I got through the 2019 Hellboy, the 1999 Thomas Crown Affair and some of the longer videos on my YouTube watch later list. I also managed nine more skeletons. The basing is still drying on them but that’s 21 done with nine more ready to work on this week.
I have a question for those of you who have been around the hobby a long time. What do you look for in battle reports? I only watch the occasional video and rarely read text versions. What is it about them that keeps and holds your attention?
Last time I read a battle report with great interest it was somewhere between 1997 and 2000. Because YouTube didn’t exists and neither did video battle reports. (YouTube launched 02/2005)
So what makes me watch a battle report? Most importantly: fixed cameras. If the BatRep is filmed with moving cameras all the time it’s a no go for me. That kind makes me seasick. Also its hard to focus on anything on the table. Second important thing: I must stand/like the ones playing and their interaction. If it’s a genuine friendly game I do enjoy it. When it feels like a paid promotion or something that is just done to rake in clicks than that’s usually a turn off. Third thing: well cut and edited video. Having things shown on screen (charts, info), time consuming “non gameplay” cut and overall “good quality” keeps me entertained.
Oh and it must be a game I either play myself or have an interest in playing.
I’m not sure I would read an online BatRep to be fair because I really dislike reading walls of text on a monitor but in a printed format I think I would like enjoy a BatRep like they did in the White Dwarves of 1997.
I also would like to write one up but I am very lazy at taking notes and pictures so usually it’s all a mess XD
If you have an idea or get inspired: how far ahead to you plan your projects or do you just start?
What’s this planning you talk about?
Jump in, get all enthusiastic, expect to give up and find something more interesting, anywhere between 50% and 75% done.
If there is an event coming (tournament, show, convention) and you’ll be participating as player or giving demos how much work do you put in and how far ahead do you plan?
As a player, the absolute minimum; if models need painting, paint them. If everything is provided, just turn up and play. Don’t take it seriously! If giving a demo, the opposite extreme – try to get as much in place as possible, try to cover every angle, make sure it’s as easy as possible for people to just turn up and play. Especially at shows, I like to see people having a good time. Whether that’s providing an opponent they can beat and take a whooping in good humour, or running a demo that is as easy and as fun as possible to join in with.
Sudden announcements of things happening a year in advance: when do you start saving up?
Advertising Orktober 2024 during Orktober 2023 just feels wrong to me.
I certainly wouldn’t start saving up now! If it’s more than a month or two of saving, it’s too expensive for a hobby whim.
I’m watching the video releases in reverse order this week – just watched the chat show, now onto the weekender.
Interesting to see the disillusionment with Kickstarter finally kicking in. Just amazed it’s taken this long for it to be said out loud: Kickstarter has been little more than a pre-order system for years and years now. And the tabletop/gaming industry seems to have pushed it in that direction more than just about any other. And over the last few years, Ontabletop has helped push and promote this kind of “vapourware” at lot (one of my biggest issues with the current post-covid format is less that the guys are no longer in the studio, but more that it’s become a discussion show about pre-release PR for shiny new things found on websites – much of which doesn’t actually exist at the time it’s being discussed!)
So it’s interesting to see even the crew recognise that Kickstarter is a shadow of its former self and nothing like its originally intended purpose – to help new projects raise funds to get to production – and is little more than a pre-order system that takes a 30% cut of revenue (which is factored into the selling price when new products are launched). I’m just a little confused as to “why now?”. Because it’s been this way for years and years.
I also suspect that many who buy their tabletop games from Kickstarter are “collectors of games” rather than players of games (in the same way many of us collect many more miniatures than we ever actually paint or play games with). I do wonder how many of these releases are actually out of favour by the time they are delivered, as everyone has already moved on to the next new shiny thing – it’s not the games themselves that are exciting, but the promise of the next one being ever more awesome than the last one you bought and put on your shelf, unopened?
I’m quite enjoying the “back to the 90s” theme of the weekender.
Here’s your music.
I sometimes feel for Shay. Not only does he get grief from the guys about being such a young ‘un.
But he also missed out on an incredible time of excitement and revolution – it turns out the 90s were actually a pretty good time to be alive!
Just amazed it’s taken this long for it to be said out loud: Kickstarter has been little more than a pre-order system for years and years now.
I’m pretty sure that Gerry and I on the uHH and Paul & David at the Yellow Belly tabletop said so months ago. Also, let’s not forget that people doing kickstarters sometimes pay sites like OTT for covering them which in turn makes them able to provide us with this forum and project system. So it’s rather reasonable to talk “bad” about that business model. If you know what I mean. Words today are sticky in my brain.
I sometimes feel for Shay. Not only does he get grief from the guys about being such a young ‘un.
But he also missed out on an incredible time of excitement and revolution – it turns out the 90s were actually a pretty good time to be alive!
Yeah but he has Gerry around and I guess some other regulars who can shower him with stories. It’s next best thing I guess XD
Sadly your video is not available to me @blinky465 says the youtube thing “not your region”.
But thanks to my 1337 ha><0r skills I think I found another verion:
sundancer 1 year, 1 month ago.
