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March 15, 2019 at 3:14 pm #1361924
And Episode 03 of the Ops Center is now up on BoW / OTT as well!
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March 15, 2019 at 7:15 pm #1362082@oriskany : I think such things also make the game itself more interesting. It’s the one thing that could be ‘fun’ (I know …awkward description) to add to fictional games.
There once was a pc game called ‘conflict zone’ that forced the good guys to take care of civillians.
(wiki : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_Zone )March 15, 2019 at 8:46 pm #1362111More operators for my PMC company:
March 16, 2019 at 5:13 am #1362216Been working today on 1982-era counters for a new Lebanon expansion of The Arab-Israeli Wars. Data’s been compiled from NE Atlanta Gaming Group (these guys do some very serious modern 1970s-80s Panzer Leader mods), Tosach Miniatures Tactical Combat Middle East (Panzer Leader for 1991-2003 Gulf Wars), and Shrapnel Games’ Steel Panthers: Main Battle Tank.
Still tweaking these of course, and there are a few more units I want to put together for 1982 “Peace for Galilee” Lebanon.
March 16, 2019 at 4:22 pm #1362423We are now live on Twitch, Youtube and Facebook
March 17, 2019 at 2:10 am #1362484Good point, @limburger – I think the main “point” of these kinds of factors (rules of engagement, prisoners, CASEVAC, civilians) is to illustrate the idea of limited warfare. If you ask me, that’s the real difference between a “Clausewitzian” World War II game and a modern warfare game. “Higher tech” is just the decoration, and let’s face it, 99% of “modern” war is shockingly low-tech.
The thing is, in a lot of sci-fi or fantasy games, the war is “total.” I guess 40K is the biggest example. With “Exterminatus” taking place all over, I guess war doesn’t get more “total” than that. Star Wars is pretty total, with people blowing up planets five at a time as of Episode VII. Star Trek maybe? The Federation often tries to send in some kind of envoy first?
In wargaming, “Fantasy” is really just ancient or medieval war with better special effects. Again, usually a “total war” model.
So these kinds of limited war factors could certainly be brought into sci-fi or fantasy (especially sci-fi … Darkstar combat usually takes place in a limited-war setting), but the universe setting and background has to be built to accommodate these factors of politics, culture, or economics.
I agree though. Limited war considerations definitely help a wargame avoid devolving into a simplistic “pushing trays of minis at each other” mash-up. 😀
@suetoniuspaullinus – The new Ares operators look great. Were you thinking of playing these in a game, or are they strictly for hobby? I assumed they’d be operating primarily in Africa or the Middle East or central Asia, just from the basing. I almost wonder if you’re coming up with backstories for them – part of what makes wargaming PMCs so much fun is the freedom it allows in your “characters” or unit creation.
March 17, 2019 at 2:12 am #1362485March 17, 2019 at 11:28 am #1362582The Federation in Star Trek definitely follows the ‘limited war’ model of warfare (until writers forget what Star Trek is in certain modern episodes 🙁 )
The background definitely needs to be re-written for many fictional settings to allow for this as a standard, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t work in specific scenarios.
Back to the real world.
Given how often the news reports about atrocities being committed in wars in Africa one has to wonder if both parties involved follow an ‘exterminatus doctrine’.March 17, 2019 at 2:39 pm #1362663Hope to be streaming today at 3:00 PM ETZ / 7:00 GMT. Just a little one, some demo play testing of “The Arab Israeli Wars” expanded into 1982 Lebanon. Hope to see some of you there! 🙂
March 17, 2019 at 8:20 pm #1362790An official promotional video for the (Dutch) Marine corps from 1965 directed by P. Verhoeven (yep … that guy)
IMDB :
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059366/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_25
Interesting factoid : Verhoeven was a conscript at that time and 1965 marked the 300 year anniversary for these guys.
March 18, 2019 at 8:42 pm #1363207Good afternoon, folks!
We had a great Sitrep Modern Military Gaming live-stream on Sunday, March 17. In this stream, we took a first swipe at playtesting the new 1982-era units, rules, weapons classes, and scenario conditions for Avalon Hill’s The Arab-Isreali Wars – which I’ve been working to expand beyond the published 1973 Yom Kippur War scenarios and into 1982 “Peace for Galilee” (Israeli Invasion of Lebanon).
Excerpts of this stream are now being posted on YouTube. 😀
Do you have what it takes to wear colonel’s eagles? That first star for a brigadier-general? This are the kinds of games that let you really “take a seat at that table” – and command whole battalions, regiments, or brigades in full-sized tactical combat.
March 19, 2019 at 6:55 pm #1363657Modern war : the Srbrenica report
https://www.niod.nl/en/srebrenica-report/report
Time line of the conflict :
Medical supply situation :
March 19, 2019 at 9:12 pm #1363719Starting a new project for my spectre miniatures, which can be found here.
March 19, 2019 at 9:40 pm #1363721Storming the Gap : first strike audiobook sample :
It reminds me a bit of a Tom Clancy novel written by a gearhead with all those names & designations.
I kind of hope the rest of the novel doesn’t continue with that much information overload.//
Spetznaz ?
Bless you … 😉@grimwolfuk What makes Spetznaz / GRU different from the western special forces units ?
Or is there nothing different for gaming purposes ?March 19, 2019 at 9:43 pm #1363722@limburger in game terms nothing as they would be classed as elite / Tier 1 Operators.
In real life not much is really known about there training etc. unlike say the SAS or SeALS
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