Indomitus alocations to stores is already "sold out" world wide

[slayerofworldsParticipant 3449xp 3]

Well my interest has waned.

I have no desire to jump through hoops just for the privilege of maybe being lucky enough to pay a company large sums of money for their products.

It’s really funny actually, how Something that shouldn’t really be that big of deal… can just just flip a switch and change your mind.

Guess I will be sitting 9th edition out.

[slayerofworldsParticipant 3449xp 3]

Well my interest has waned.

I have no desire to jump through hoops just for the privilege of maybe being lucky enough to pay a company large sums of money for their products. 

It’s really funny actually, how Something that shouldn’t really be that big of deal… can just just flip a switch and change your mind.  

Guess I will be sitting 9th edition out.

[mecha82Participant 10037xp 1]

@bubbles15 Whole “GW being charity”-argument is strawman and you know it. At least I am sure that you are not stupid to think that that’s legimate argument. After all FOMO is thing and GW is using that when it would be better for us consumers that product is sold widely in every LGS without it being limited product.

You know what what FOMO means right? It means fear of missing out which is case with limited edition products. Which also means that they rather have limited edition product that people are forced to pre-order instead of making sure that as many people as possible can buy prodect. Sure if you are stockholder you are happy about that but to us hobbists that love 40k it’s unethical business practice.

[dunham99 2556xp 2]

could someone please explain to me why nearly all FLGS including OTT have chosen not to apply their usual discount to this box set? a couple have but most have not. I can only assume greed?

[daegren 2521xp 4]

I’m in the US.  All my local stores were cut down one or two copies.  Even the Warhammer store told me to try the website as being 8th on his list didn’t guarantee a copy.
It took the GW website 12 minutes to acknowledge my order request – YES!   Another seven minutes for the GW Server to let me check out and say it’s out of stock – WTF?!?

No, no I won’t be buying back into 40k. This happened to me with the Sisters of Battle box. It’s GW way of saying F-you and take your money somewhere else.

There are games just as amazing out there where starter sets are in stock and still a good value.

I might continue to pick up more Titanicus, but I have a large army and a 3d printer.  Might be good there as well.

[tankkommanderParticipant 6421xp 1]

could someone please explain to me why nearly all FLGS including OTT have chosen not to apply their usual discount to this box set? a couple have but most have not. I can only assume greed?

The allocation was slashed by GW just before release. Already the online and bricks & mortar stores are having to explain to unhappy customers why they have had to cancel their pre-orders. And now they won’t be selling that many units, so profit has been cut, therefore less incentive to provide a discount.

If you want to point the finger then point it at GW. By limiting the stock they have kept the price high. Good for them right now, but maybe they have generated some ill feeling that will drive away people like me who were going to jump back in to 40k after years away.

And consider the poor bricks & mortar stores who have been shut for weeks due to covid and were hoping to make some much needed money selling this hotly anticipated new release, only to find out they are getting a lot less stock to sell. A lot of small stores rely on 40k and MTG sales to keep the lights on.

Of course maybe Warren lied to us about his holiday. Instead of a camper van maybe he is jetting off 1st class to the bahamas whilst counting all the filthy money he made selling Indomitus :p

[dunham99 2556xp 0]

this could be the case. but many of these stores will be doing a second wave, so they’ll still get plenty of copies to sell at a later date. plus why would you order from a 3rd party store when you can order from GW direct at the same price and get extra’s for pre-ordering from them. it would just be nice to hear from one of these store as to why, as i’ve not heard from any yet as to why. if i could get it at a later date with the usual discount applied i might. but as it is, £125 for that boxset is a joke.

[brucelea 7906xp 4]

Just to counter the concern over OTT not discounting this, they have chucked in a £20 voucher valid until the end of September on orders over £100. Yes that gives them more trade but it is also highly likely that the additional stuff bought will have a discount on it so technically double discounted. We have no way of knowing what caveats were put on FLGS, nearly all will have some form of NDA signed to be able to deal with GW.

Those that hate GW will hate and those “dumb veterans” like me will still buy into it, so what, my hobby, my way, my money to waste. I already work on any model costs me £3-£6 each and characters @£15 so in my eyes this was a bargain. I don’t particularly like the sales approach but it is no different to queuing for concert tickets. I mean the bands could just put on more dates but they don’t.

[limburger 21704xp 3]

One thing that we shouldn’t forget in all of this is how Covid-19 is affecting the world at large.

I would not be surprised if limited production / logistics has had more of an effect on GW’s supply chain than they’re willing to share.

@dunham99 my local webshop did have the usual (15%) discount from RRP for GW items on this one.
I wouldn’t call it greed. The margins in this industry aren’t *that* good for stores to begin with.
I don’t blame them for taking the one chance to earn a bit extra.

Heck … I think the OTT crew  has mentioned that GW is  not exactly transparent towards their retailers when it comes to logistics & supply of anything as they never appear to indicate if anything ‘out of stock’ will ever be available again at all.

IMHO that is the real problem here. The lack of supply for a single item (which we all knew would be limited based on experience with GW) is not that much of an issue by comparison.

[daegren 2521xp 0]

Update.  So word is the US sold out in ~1 minute.

[templar007 52376xp 2]

Yup, that’s why I didn’t even try.

 

After the online supplier that I was going to Pre-Order from told me that their requested stock was cut 75% and that they were holding all the boxes that they would get for walk-in sales, I decided to just walk away from this one.

 

Too bad.

 

I’m betting GW laughed all morning about the Chaos!

[neonstatMember 11xp 1]

I don’t understand isn’t this box the replacement for Dark Imperium? Doesn’t that mean it’ll be made for the next couple of years for people getting into 40k?

[hobbyhubParticipant 4169xp 0]

@neonstat – Nope it isn’t.  When they announced the boxed, they called it a “launch box”.

They specifically stated in a video that a GW starter box has to contain dice and a measuring tool.  They also said that this launch box was aimed at veteran players, but that people starting out could pick it up.

@limburger – From what I hear, GW are only at 40% production capacity at the moment.

[hobbyhubParticipant 4169xp 1]

@limburger …

“That still does not explain how a ‘pre order’ for a product can be limited at all, because that’d be the entire idea of the ‘pre order’ culture the industry has used.”

I think that the term pre-order is used in the sense that it is an order before the product has been made available to the consumer, rather than an order for something that is available, just sitting in a warehouse as it is no longer sitting on the shelves.

I’m thinking that all of the copies from the first wave have already been produced, so this isn’t the same situation where people talk of Kickstarter being a “pre-order system”, where the goods haven’t been produced before the project closes.

[limburger 21704xp 2]

@hobbyhub that’s just inventing excuses for their failure to deliver …

If there is no guarantuee that I can get the product if I order (or pre-order) something then the entire reason for the system to exist is flawed. And given GW’s history I doubt there will be a second wave at all. Boxes like this never get a reprint.

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