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    elessar2590
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    The 2nd Battalion Royal Warwickshire Regiment were with 3rd Infantry Division but still share the story.

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    collins
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    Early in the morning of D-Day+1 morning the Battalion was called into action to clear the remaining suburbs of Benouville before attacking south, capturing Lebisey Wood and the accompanying village which sat on a hill overlooking the city of Caen. The start line for the main attack on Lebisey  (a stream just to the south of Benouville)  was in enemy hands and so the plan called  for the Battalion to clear the remaining enemy presence in the area around Benouville before launching the attack proper. This was to be with A, B and C company, D company was still entrenched to the north-east at Pegasus Bridge. The Battalions S (Support) company, made up of 6 pounder anti tank guns and 3 inch mortars was held at the already occupied town of Bieville, north on the main road from Lebisey. This was due to the poor, marshy terrain on the slopes leading to Lebisey which the carriers, fully loaded, would not have been able to traverse.

    It is worth noting that on D-Day itself, elements of the 2nd Battalion, Kings Shropshire Light Infantry (KSLI), supported by a squadron of Sherman tanks from the Staffordshire Yeomanry, were able to push into Lebisey in the late evening against strong enemy resistance. Despite this success, the KSLI and tanks were ordered to withdraw from the area as there was a concern that a strong enemy counter attack could push them from their positions. This proved to be a valid concern, as elements of the 125th Panzer Grenadier Regiment and 22nd Panzer Regiment, part of the 21st Panzer Division, moved in overnight and fortified their positions that the Warwicks were fated to attack the next day. This unit, recreated after its annihilation in North Africa earlier in the war, consisted of fresh troops, led by veteran commanders and boasting large amounts of the feared 88mm anti-tank/air guns and the tactically flexible Panzer IV, many of which had been dug in overnight to make them cornerstones of the Lebisey defences which, if necessary, could be moved for counterattacks.

    In addition to the defences prepared in and around the wood, the enemy had also constructed a large anti tank ditch on the approach slope to Lebisey which seriously hindered the Staffordshire Yeomanry during its advance with the KSLI. This is noted on the map above which is from Staffordshire Yeomanry records and is drawn from south to north, the area on the bottom left hand corner of the map is the direction the Warwicks would have advanced towards the Wood.
    On June 7th, the Warwicks initial plan of clearing the suburbs of Benouville were carried out swiftly without serious resistance. The next stage called for the Warwicks three available infantry companies to advance from the river to the wood in an arrow formation, following a barrage from a Royal Navy cruiser and artillery support from 7th Field Field Battery. The option of tank support from the Staffordshire Yeomanry had been ruled out due to the aforementioned anti tank ditch. When the Infantry attacked, they would do so without armour.
    Elements of the plans however, began to change from the offset. The commander of A company (Capt Illing), whilst conducting some reconnaissance of the immediate area mounted in a Bren Carrier, came under sustained small arms fire. Thankfully no one was injured but this, along with other, similar incidents, showed that the ‘start line’ for the attack (the area around the stream) was not secure, making a concerted attack very difficult.

    With this in mind, Captain Illing communicated the situation to Lieutenant- Colonel Herdon who took the decision to delay the main attack on Lebisey by an hour to allow the start line to be secured prior to the advance, with the aim of rescheduling the artillery and naval support to match the attack. Whilst this was able to be communicated across A company, the other commanders and section leaders of B & C companies were not able to be reached on Battalion radios, meaning the delay order was never received. This may well have been due to the nature of the radios in use at the time which could only either send or receive on certain settings, but could not do both at the same time, let alone try to cope any interference picked up from the surrounding area.

    Due to this, B & C companies started their attack at the pre agreed time, with C company in the middle and B company behind on their left flank, (eastern flank) moving up the hill towards Lebisey wood through waist high corn. Seeing the other companies move off, A company was then forced to commit to the advance despite having called off almost all fire support. The only artillery support available, according to some accounts, was from ‘two self propelled guns’. As to what these vehicles were is still being researched, but there are two most likely candidates. One is two self propelled ‘Priest’ guns (105mm Howitzers, mounted on Sherman tank chassis) from 7th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery. The other is two M-10 Wolverine tank hunters, as part 20th Anti-Tank, Royal Artillery. Whichever this option is proved to be true, these guns were able to provide the Warwicks with at least some fire support, delivering High Explosive and smoke onto, and around, the infantry’s target.

    Committed to the attack, the infantry continued to advance. The morning was bright as roughly 340 men pressed forwards, having yet to be engaged by the enemy. The panzer grenadiers could clearly see the men advancing towards them and held their fire.

    At roughly 09:00 hours, at a range of 200 yards (the length of 2 football pitches), the entrenched grenadiers opened fire. Small arms, emplaced machine guns, mortars and anti tank guns rained accurate and deadly fire upon the Warwicks who went to ground and returned fire where they could whilst still trying to push forwards. One platoon of B company, led by Lt Dockerty, managed to enter the north easterly corner of the wood but, outnumbered and outgunned by an entrenched opponent, the entire platoon (roughly 37 men) got within 10 yards of the enemy before being killed or wounded, Lt Dockerty was amongst the killed. The bodies of those killed from Dockerty’s platoon would ultimately be left where they fell, in front of the German positions, for over a month until the wood was ultimately secured.

    2nd Battalion’s ordeal continued for over 5 hours, taking heavy casualties whilst pinned by accurate, rapid fire from the woods, which left many men wounded or dead in the heat of the day, including the Battalions commander Colonel Herdon (who was shot in the head and killed by a burst of machine gun fire as he moved closer to the front line) and a number of other Battalion officers trying to lead their men. Although in a grim situation, Royal Artillery Forward Observers, that had advanced on foot with the Warwick s, were able to successfully contact their batteries and call in increasing amounts of artillery support, targeting the rear of the wood that 2nd Battalion were trying to take.

    A respite was offered at roughly 15:00 when D company entered the fray, after being released from its position at Pegasus Bridge to the north, it put in an attack on B Company’s left flank (eastern flank). This attack was successful in neutralising several enemy positions that had been pinning down men of A company (Sergeant Pittaway is mentioned in Marcus Cunliffe’s book, ‘History of the Royal Warwickshire Regiment 1919-1955, which records him as having done ‘superb work’ but elaborates no further). With this threat removed, men of A company finally began to filter into Lebisey Woods most northern side.
    This success was curtailed, however, as 21st Panzer then moved several MkIV Panzer tanks into action and, without long range dedicated anti tank weapons, this then pinned down A company in the woods that they had managed to occupy, being surrounded on 3 sides by the counter attacking German forces.

    At this stage, the much needed Warwick six 6 pounder anti tank guns were still in Bieville, 2 kilometres to the north, as part of the Battalions Support company, along with the Battalions 3 inch mortar teams. The Company had received no action reports or orders from the embattled infantry to the south (believed to be due to already mentioned problem of the Warwicks radio problems). They had also been warned by infantry of the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry, who were occupying the town, that the enemy was only a few hundred yards ‘up the road’.

    Brigadier K P Smith then approached the senior officer of S company, Captain Bannerman, at what is estimated to have been 4pm. The Brigadier ordered Bannerman’s unit south, with the information that Lebisey had been captured and the Warwick infantry companies were consolidating their position. With these orders the Bren Carriers carrying the units 6 pounder anti tank guns, 3 inch mortars and forward Royal Naval artillery observer advanced down the main road to Lebisey at 100 yard intervals with military out riders (motorcyclists) riding alongside.

    We don’t know where this order originated to this day (research is ongoing), but the consequences of it were to be very serious to all the men fighting that day at Lebisey, first and foremost, the men in the carriers themselves.

    The Support company, comprising of up to 36 Bren Carrier armored personnel carriers and a half track traveled quickly south down the road with motorcyle outriders racing alongside. During their approach to the woods German mortar and small arms began to close in on the convoy, causing one of the motor cyclists to lose control of his bike and crash, roughly a mile before the convoy reached the wood. The severity of his injuries causing the carriers behind to stop with the narrow road blocked. This split in the convoy saw the Anti Tank Platoon and Company HQ, at the front of the convoy,  become separated from the rest of the carriers. Either unaware of the situation, or unwilling to stop the advance to wait for the accident to be cleared, the front carriers continued their advance as fast as possible, coming straight into Lebisey wood and town via the main road. Captain Bannerman recalls:

    ‘We had gone for about half a mile when all hell let loose. The noise was fantastic, cracking and humming past us. Luckily the banks were high and I suppose we were too low for them. Somehow we weren’t hit [in his own carrier, though all the five following him were knocked out] and we pressed on up the hill. We couldn’t turn round and anyhow I felt to stop was fatal so we accelerated madly and fired our Bren and our Stens at either side of the road as we passed. Suddenly appeared a low bridge and a mass of rubble and broken houses that was Lebisey. Worse still was the sigh of scurrying Germans .. darting behind the houses as we careered forlornly into the middle of them… We passed a Mark 4 [panzer] tank whose crew seemed almost as surprised to see us as we were to see them…At last we were out of the village and on a road between wide wheat fields. It was the main road to Caen…So we stopped and baled out in a wild frenzy and I gave the order I had always felt certain of never giving: ‘Action rear’. To fire backwards! Our gun drill wasn’t bad, though I think the language was far from the drill book.The gun was soon firing, and joy, we hit and holed the tank which had poked out from behind a house… We got off about 8 rounds …, while a German machine gun sprayed the wheat around us and ricocheted off the road. I remember the loader… quite imperturbable- and another Birmingham lad firing the gun with a gleaming smile and a flood of obscenity. Suddenly an 88 [ German 88mm anti-tank/ anti-air gun] got our range and up went our carrier with all our ammunition, knocking us all sideways…’

    The men of S Company bailed out of their vehicles as the carriers were hit. Many were killed as they bailed out or were caught in their carriers as they exploded. Others were able scramble into the high corn fields on either side of the road where the men hid for the rest of the day as the firefight continued around them. Many were captured whilst other were able to sneak through enemy positions during the coming night and rejoin the Battalion. Likewise few vehicles managed to return to friendly lines but all of 2nd Battalions 6 pounder anti tank guns and 3 inch mortars were lost in the engagement.

    There is evidence that, at the point of ambush for S Company, that the carrier containing the naval forward observer, Capt J. Lee, (who would be coordinating fire from a Royal Navy cruiser, anchored in the Channel) was hit. As he bailed out, he received shrapnel through his legs, either from a German mine or from the explosion of his carrier, which resulted in his death. Thus making communication with the heavy guns of Naval support more challenging.
    By 16:00 the 4 embattled companies of the Warwicks were reported surrounded and, by 17:00, reports came in stating that they were under increasingly powerful attacks from German armour and that ammunition supplies were dwindling. Although surrounded may not have been correct, the urgency and danger of the Battalion’s plight was correct. To try and address the situation, the 1st Battalion Royal Norfolks were moved forwards in an attempt to press the attack forward. They advanced, following the eastern most route that the Warwicks D company had followed to Lebisey, receiving small arms fire as they did so. Just like the Warwicks before them, the Norfolks was forced to move forwards with no artillery support, however, at least some elements of the King Shropshire Light Infantry added their small arms fire to support the attack and the Royal Norfolks were able to bring up their S Company, meaning that their 6 pounder anti tank guns were finally able to bring some much needed anti armour support to the embattled infantry. At this point in the fighting the British army had committed roughly 2000 British servicemen in one way or another to the attack on a front less than a mile wide from east to west.
    After a full day under fire, with many men killed or wounded or missing, the decision was made to withdraw both the Norfolks and the Warwicks from the firefight as dusk began to fall, with the Norfolks at the time believing that the Warwicks were almost wiped out. The decision to withdraw proved to be a fortunate one as, just after the withdrawal had been completed as darknessfell, a very heavy German artillery bombardment hit the area vacated by the infantry.

    For those men of the Warwicks captured by the enemy during the day had to share slit trenches with their captors as the 16 inch guns of HMS Warspite,
    delivered heavy ordnance on the southernmost area of Lebisey, aiming to break up any potential armoured counterattack.

    Thus ended June 7th for the men of the Warwicks, and, as individuals and small groups of soldiers returned to the Battalion the roster of dead, wounded and missing was tallied. The Battalion lost 154 fighting men, officers and other ranks, with the Norfolks adding a further 50 to the ‘butcher’s bill’. The irony here would be to say that the casualty reports, although grim reading, were not as bad as Brigade staff first thought. However, to put it into context, killed, wounded and captured, the British army lost over a companys worth of infantry, for no geographical advance. Caen, Monty’s D-Day objective, was not to be liberated (and bodies of some of the 2nd Battalion recovered), for another month, on July 8th.

    For a month 185 Brigade would cycle its three infantry Battalions through front line duties in an almost 1st World War style of warfare, where artillery (and in this case air power) was used to plaster the enemy positions. This stalemate was to continue until the 21st Panzer Division was relieved by the 16 Luftwaffe Feld-Division (moved in from Holland). The 2nd Battalion, after their action on the 7th, would spend the next month re-building and re-organising before being pushed onwards towards Caen.

    The Warwicks would continue front line duties in one context or another for 11 months, which would see them through France, Holland and, finally, Germany, ending the European theatre of operations near Bremen. Capt Illing finishes his book ‘No Better Soldier’, which recalls his time with the 2nd Battalion Royal Warwicks during the war:

    “The lesson of the war is a simple one: forgive yes, forget never.”

    #1455545

    collins
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    The above is taken from my reenactment groups website where one of our members has spent a significant amount of time researching the minute by minute of the battle from everyone’s war diaries etc at the time

    https://www.royalwarwicks.com/d-day-1-lebisey

     

    this is how the ground looks now (view from the German lines down to the British start line) note how little cover there is. It is no wonder so many died and the attack failed.9DE34EFE-409F-4F92-8FD2-8206C63043CF

    #1455702

    phaidknott
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    At the end of the day it’s WW2 British infantry on the table, but if you research into the units you end up reading the “fluff”/background and soon they become much more than that. Reading about this just make you realise how amazing these chaps were and the trails they went through, so going the little extra to research about a unit just edifies you to the whole period (and it stops being just a mass of tank p0rn stat lines that most wargamers go as far as knowledge into the period goes).

    That’s why the humble infantry figures soon become your favourite units, and you become more invested into your force (and hopefully inspired to do more painting and collecting of this “basic” building block of a WW2 army instead of collecting 5 TigerIIs and a load of 88s and then the “minimum” infantry because the rules “make you”).

    #1455718

    elessar2590
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    @phaidknott as someone who really like to collect Infantry forces I 100% agree.

    #1456114

    oriskany
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    Sorry I am late to this thread.

    Yes, @warzan – I concur with others, these look like 50th Northumberland, definitely late war (NW Europe) given that PIAT one guy seems to be carrying.

    Complete OOB for the division on 6th June / Normandy is below.  Includes 151st Brigade (blue) and 231st Brigade (green) – (the OOB above is correct but focuses primarily on 69th Brigade – Red)?

    50 NU

    50th Northumbrian landed at Gold Beach (not Sword).  So the odds of getting them “exactly” on the same table as 6th Airborne for Caen / Pegasus Bridge Paras are not good – at least at the opening of Overlord.

    For Market Garden, 50th Northumbrian started in XXX Corps reserve.  Partway through the battle they were transferred to VIII Corps (XXX Corps’s ground advance was supported by a flanking corps on either side, VIII on the right and XII on the left), basically tasked to hold ground already taken near Eindhoven, as @collins says.  So yes, @warzan, again in a very different location that 1st Airborne paras at Arnhem  (actually NO ONE really reached the paras at Arnhem, that was kind of the problem with Market-Garden in general).

    Now, 2nd Irish Guards were at the forefront of Market Garden, part of 5th Guards Armoured Brigade, in turn part of the Guards Armoured Division.

    So, whole division:

    Guards armored 01

    Zoom in to 5th Brigade: We see where 2nd Irish Guards Battalion is.

    Guards armored 02

    Guards tank battalion has no meaningful infantry:

    Guards armored 03

    However, back at Brigade, we see  1st Grenadier Guards Motorized Battalion, so these would be the infantry with the Irish Guards tanks (just attached at Brigade level, not battalion).

    They wouldn’t be “Irish,” but would be infantry with the Irish Guards (tanks).

    Guards armored 04

     

    Now there IS a 3rd Irish guards that IS all infantry, just attached to 32nd Brigade instead of 5th Armoured (all part of Guards Armoured Division – so no worries there).  I just don’t know if I completely trust this Wikipedia article as it seems to confuse / conflate the commanders (Vandeleur) of 3rd IG / 32nd Brigade (infantry) and 2nd IG / 5th Armoured (tanks).

    Guards armored 05

     

    If you decided to go with 3 Irish Guards / 32nd Guards Brigade for these guys, I think that 50th NU patch would be close enough or if you wanted to update it …

    800px-Guards_armoured.svg (1)

    By the way, this is why I NEVER put division patches / markings on my minis – it winds up causing problems.

    Just play them as you want, and say they’re with 3rd Irish Guards / 32nd Guards Armoured Brigade. 😀

    #1456794

    warzan
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    @oriskany

    Thanks so much Jim! – Sorry for the late reply mate, I have been utterly swamped this week.

    I’m gonna digest all this and hope to get some hobby time this weekend and will report back.

    #1456797

    damon
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    @oriskany don’t know if you know but there were two Vandeleurs (JOE and Giles) they were second cousins.

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    oriskany
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    No worries, @warzan .  Any excuse to dive into OOB charts.  😀

    Indeed @damon – two Vandeleurs.  I’m just not sure which is which.  J.O.E. (Evelyn) Vandeleur, according to these charts, commands 3rd Irish Guards, part of 32nd Guards Brigade (Mechanized).  That’s infantry in trucks, halftracks, and/or universal carriers.  The cousin commands the tanks of 2nd Irish Guards, part of 5th Guards Armored Brigade.

    So did the movie conflate or combine these two?  Michael Caine’s “Joe” character seems to command a mixed force of infantry and tanks.  Maybe they combined the two Vandeleurs for the movie?  The movie is deliberately vague in just calling his unit “the Irish Guards” rather than specifying between 2nd (armored) IG and 3rd (mechanized) IG.

    I was bringing this up because Irish tanks and infantry in a combined (if only temporary) “battlegroup” would seem to be what @warzan was looking for, at least as pertains to Market-Garden.

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    elessar2590
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    @oriskany I don’t think they intentionally combined the two characters since Michael Byrne has a Credit for playing Giles Vandeleur in the movie.

    Here’s the only image of him I could find.
    Michael Byrne  A Bridge Too Far (1977)

    The actor who played him is the same one who played Major General Nairn in Sharpe. You know the Major General who rides around as a scout but who’s boss would have been a Lt. Colonel? Why must directors change things they clearly don’t understand but anyway that’s not relevant.
    Nairn

    #1456991

    oriskany
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    Shame on you, @elessar2590 .  THAT’s the credit you use for that actor?

    “Und zis is how ve say goodbye in Germany …”

    Last Crusade

    Okay, so why did they show Michael Caine / J.O. Evelyn Vandeleur commanding a column of tanks.  I see the two characters talking a few times during the battle (how the hell do they expect us to keep the schedule on a road like this?)

    So again, I wonder if 2nd IG (Tanks – Giles – 5th Brigade) and 3rd IG (mech infantry – J.O.E. – 32nd Brigade) were fighting side by side in some kind of spearhead battlegroup for this operation.

    Was J.O.E. somehow senior to Giles?  Seniority?  Both were Lt. Colonels so far as I can tell.

    #1457000

    elessar2590
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    @oriskany I think you’re right, they just wanted to show some tanks so they stuck them in there. Although we only see a single Troop of Tanks is it possible that 3rd IG had a Troop attached to them?

    JOE had about 7 years of Seniority on his Cousin. Giles was also only “Acting” Commander of 2nd IG and was subordinate to JOE.

    The Guards liked to form unofficial mini Brigades of an Armoured and Mechanised Battalion which would make sense and help explain why the two are so mixed up.

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