Help Identifying Infantry

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 2]

Hi Guys

When @johnlyons saw me working on the paras he up and gave me another small force (same manufacturer I believe) love you John!!!

Before i set to work on these I’d love to know if there is anything specific about them (painted for a particular regiment etc)

If there is I will take that into account when basing them etc 🙂

any help greatly appreciated folks!

[elessar2590 18207xp 1]

@warzan I’m leaning towards the 50th (Northumbrian) Infantry Division.

1. They took part in D-Day
2. They have a Red “Shoulder Title”
3. Their Badge is a Black Square with some T’s on it.

[recon63 5075xp 1]

the miniatures themselves are from Scarab miniatures, not sure about the unit they are painted as though.

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 1]

putting this link here for others who follow in the future

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50th_(Northumbrian)_Infantry_Division

going to have a coffee and do a bit of reading 🙂

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 0]

ok I’m reading that wikipedia article and finding it a bit too technical for me to completely get my head around

Were the Royal Irish Fusiliers part of the 50th and would these models pass as those?

The 50th were involved in market garden, however were they in a very different location to the paras who attacked arnhem?

[collins 16358xp 0]

Well.

the period the models are sculpted for is clearly D-Day+ (the no.4 rifle gives that away) and the order of battle shows that the Irish we not part of the division at that time so technically the answer is No

[hegemongary 9790xp 0]

The RIF, were part if the division in france in 1940 and again for Sicily in 1943.

 

So while technically no good for dday, they are ok if you want to demonstrate earlier.

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 0]

ok d-day+ then thanks for that 🙂 so if I want to keep these guys in Europe RIF are out.

No problem 🙂

What about Market Garden would they have been anywhere near Arnhem and the paras?

Otherwise if I go DDay (or the days after it) anyone got any good stories or regiments I can base these guys on?

[collins 16358xp 0]

It all depends on how accurate you want to be. These models can be anything you want but they aren’t accurate for early war (BEF) or Italy/Sicily due to the rifle being carried on them

[collins 16358xp 0]

They were near Nijmegen and so could pair up with some US paras

[elessar2590 18207xp 0]

The 50th ended up at Eindhoven which was where the US Paras were. They fought some tough battles to let XXX Corps build their floating bridge across the river. They stayed at Eindhoven for the rest of the Operation basically fighting on and off.

The Royal Irish Fusiliers were destroyed in 43 and didn’t get reformed until after the War.

The 50th was mostly made up of these Battalions

69th Infantry Brigade (reorganised as a Reserve Infantry Brigade, and returned to the UK December 1944)

5th Battalion, East Yorkshire Regiment
6th Battalion, Green Howards
7th Battalion, Green Howards
151st Infantry Brigade (reorganised as a Reserve Infantry Brigade, and returned to the UK December 1944)

6th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry
8th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry
9th Battalion, Durham Light Infantry (left 30 November 1944, joined 131st Brigade, 7th Armoured Division)
1/7th Battalion, Queen’s Royal Regiment (West Surrey) (joined 4 December 1944)
231st Infantry Brigade (joined 13 August 1943, reorganised as a Reserve Infantry Brigade and returned to the UK December 1944)

2nd Battalion, Devonshire Regiment (left 30 November 1944, joined 131st Brigade, 7th Armoured Division)
1st Battalion, Dorsetshire Regiment
1st Battalion, Hampshire Regiment
1/6th Battalion, Queen’s Royal Regiment (West Surrey) (joined 4 December 1944)

Plus heaps of attachments like Royal Marines and Tanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50th_(Northumbrian)_Infantry_Division#Order_of_battle

[elessar2590 18207xp 0]

So they would work well with the Irish Guards which means your Tanks can be Irish.

[hegemongary 9790xp 0]

I believe they only made it as far as nijmegan just 12 to 13 miles short of anthem.

[collins 16358xp 0]

If you want an interesting story I’m happy to tell you about 2nd battalion Royal Warwickshire regiment on June 7th. The battle at lebisey woods just outside Caen. Very interesting and a lesson in how not to fight a battle. Many casualties including the Colonel. They even have a tie in with the paras at Pegasus bridge

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 0]

if these guys can be them then yes I’d love to hear that @collins (I’d love to hear it anyway but it’s a plus if I can base this little force on the story and have it be accurate)

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