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  • #1356252

    ninjilly
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    A little preface – I work in a library in a poor area in Edinburgh and a lot of the kids and teenagers I work with struggle with the basics of an education. Over the last year, I’ve introduced them to card and board games that need both to sneak in literacy and numeracy. Poker is a big hit too so they are starting to work on strategy. I was in GW the other day and they brought up their Schools Alliance programme and said to try getting in touch and see if they’d give a library the same support. It’s a great idea and I’d love to bring it in but minis, like MTG, had been off my radar for work because of cost. Most of these families live well below the poverty line and there’s no way they could buy into it. The programme with GW looks like it is Kill Team orientated so I’m thinking of building a bunch of teams to take along instead. I know it won’t exactly be what GW necessarily are looking for but it’s the only way realistically I can bring in games like this. Obviously, working in a community library there is bugger all chance I’ll get any money for the project so it’ll mean buying stuff myself over the next few months and working on it out of hours. So now to my plea…

     

    I’m looking to build Kill Teams as cheaply as possible and so I’m looking for suggestions. I’ve already picked up First Strike and a box of the easy build Plague Marines to make the first two teams. I have some Black Legion CSMs still kicking about so that’s me up to three. Terrain I’ll have to scratch build. What are other people’s recommendations for cheap but cool looking teams? I can only manage £20 a month towards this but I’d like to get maybe 6 or 7 teams built by the summer.

    Help me Beasts…

    #1356253

    avernos
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    33947xp

    if it doesn’t need to be shiny and new mate I can probably provide you with a few kill teams if you want me to get some stuff together. I’ve no idea what goes into a kill team though if you can let me know what it is roughly I could probably do some guard, orks and eldar for you, so that should give a spread without all being the same.

    #1356254

    avernos
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    33947xp

    on a related note, you could do some massed historic games using https://peterspaperboys.com/ a quid a sheet and you can print out whatever you want. Grab a cheap and cheerful set of rules and let them push celts into legions until one side explodes messily

     

    #1356572

    kiranamida
    5791xp
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    You said you already have a Death Guard kill team on the go but if your looking to add Primaris Marines?
    I found the Conquest magazine they are putting out at the moment to be a great resource. For about £8 (plus shipping but if you combine a couple of issues it works out as not to bad) you can get three Intercessors/Reivers which is more around the number you want for a Kill Team than the box of 10 you would be looking at for 40k. Some of the issue also have some decent starts at terrain like shipping containers, barrels and ammo crates once you’re up on actual teams.

    Similarly there is GWs new Easy to Build Range. Again this is centred in Primiaris and Deathguard (I suspect the this and Conquest are the product of the same new manufacturing setup) but there are some Ork Boyz in there for £6 that might get you started.

    #1356587

    sundancer
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    I second the vote on the conquest magazine. Maybe someone in your area will want the magazine only for the magazine and part with the Miniatures and paints?

    #1356594

    limburger
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    This video mentions a lot of cheap-ish options (50$ average per team) :

    The reddit may have more options :

    Easy Warhammer 40k Kill Team Lists Under $50, by Uncle Atom from killteam

    #1356991

    ninjilly
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    11673xp

    Thanks to everyone for their responses so far.

    @avernos – that would be amazing mate! Having had a quick look at the book just now, Orks KT can be made up of boys, gretchin, kommando, burnas and lootas. Eldar (or Asuryani as they are apparently now being called??) are rangers, guardians and dire avengers. Guard are mainly just guardsman plain and special weapons or scions. I love the Cadian sniper models so I’ll probably be picking those up at some point for a team. I’d love to try them with historicals but the honest truth is they don’t give two badgers about most things in this world so I’m edging my bets on the rule of cool working to get them interested in KT. I have a second group that would probably more interested in historicals and I have a contact at the local high school so, inspired by the Snag a normie challenge, getting in touch with them about maybe doing some historicals is on my future projects list.

     

    @kiranamida and @sundancer – yeah I looked into Conquest but the First Strike box already came with 3 reivers, 3 intercessors, 3 plague marines and 6 poxwalkers so I’m good there. I like the idea of the magazine but I don’t think it is quite right for this project.

     

    @limburger – thanks for reminding me that Adam made this video! I had totally forgotten about it.

    #1357012

    limburger
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    @ninjilly I still call them Eldar myself 😉

    As a killteam they don’t have that specialist feel despite the fact that their army has spec ops level troops.
    Why field ordinary troopers at all when you’ve got specialists ?

    At least the Imperial Guard don’t have a lot of options, so they need to field a ‘Dirty Dozen’ equivalent.

    Historicals may simply need a cool movie reference to get them excited.
    I’ve seen ‘Spectre’ mentioned at the modern military gaming thread ( https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/sitrep-forum-center-modern-military-gaming/ ). It’s on my own list of ‘things that are cool’, but I doubt it would be cheap enough for your target audience.

    The one thing that Killteam/GW has going for it are the complete killteam sets they do. It’s got all the sprues and profiles for a team and a bit of terrain, but they are a bit over budget if you’re looking at a 20 pound limit.

    #1357050

    ninjilly
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    @limburger yeah, some of the KT options seem a little strange on a quick flick through. Sadly the actual KT boxes don’t have full 100pts lists, some are as low as 55-60. I’d rather just get full teams done.

    Spectre is a game I’m interested in myself and it has occurred to me to try out with them but I’m waiting to see how 2nd edition looks. I also picked up Black Ops from Osprey recently as it is meant to be a bit more entry level/beer and pretzels style which might suit the older groups.

    #1357063

    avernos
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    33947xp

    I’ll have a look and see what I can put together for you, I don’t have the killteam book but I’m sure there will be something online I can use for it.

    #1357079

    kiranamida
    5791xp
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    @avernos If you want to stay official, there is the Kill Team Roster online from GW that you could leaf through. Not as convenient as the tables in the book but it’s freely accessible.

    Kill Team: Command Roster

    #1372554

    bvandewalker
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    2078xp

    Actually, why not use paper miniatures. Onemonk has tons of options and they have free monthly hoard, your players can keep or even bring their own teams (If they have a pc and printer, or even just pdfs are cheap to free if you look),  you don’t need to rely on crackdealers like GW, and you don’t need to limit yourself to killteam (Why not try Frostgrave with paper craft terrain).

    Here I will give you three sites visit:

    Wargamer vault has a lot of good “high end” paper minis and tons of rule books:

    https://www.wargamevault.com/

    Onemonk is almost the core of the paper miniature community check out their forums: http://onemonk.com/

    And lastly Junior general which has a lot of free minis (not the best, but good for school groups): http://juniorgeneral.org/

    However if you really want to stick with plastics, unless I was really trying to court GW I would go down a scale to 20mm and use Dark Alliance and other figures for Frostgrave or historical gaming. But I think you should just go buy some card stock for the library printer.

     

    #1373038

    mage
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    Do you need some minis donated?

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