Bolt Action Desert War Bootcamp

[brucelea 7906xp 0]

Why thank you, I started off going for chinless wonder but during painting it went more of a gormless pranny!

[brucelea 7906xp 0]

Very nice @leifer1971, did you preshade it? Or is that a postshade of the brown colour? Either way it’s highly effective.

[suetoniuspaullinusMember 12198xp 5]

Question. Are we going to be pc or historically?

The recognition banner is detachable just in case. I’m usually not too keen on Nazi symbols but literally ALL my DAK have some..so what’s it gonna be?!

 

[oriskany 60771xp 1]

Awesome truck, @suetoniuspaullinus – as far as the recognition banner goes, leaving aside any questions of personal preference or taste or comfort … I really like how you made it detachable since …

Banners like this are mostly a 1941 kind of thing.  You only do this when your side positively owns the air.  You see it with Germans in Africa 1941, Barbarossa 1941, Americans in Korea, Americans in Iraq, etc.  Basically, this is when the biggest threat you face from the air is from some nearsighted aircraft gunner on your side deciding you maybe the enemy.

By 1942, I’m pretty sure the Germans would have quit this, the British were doing much better in the air by then, especially with those Hawker Hurricane Ds with the twin 40mm autocannon.  😀

As far as the the swastika in the DAK insignia … yeah.  😐 What are you gonna do?  Personally I always err on the side of history.  And DAK insignia is usually so small in comparison to the whole vehicle that it almost doesn’t seem to matter.

We have the same issue on this side of the water when it comes to Confederate flags in Civil War history / wargaming.

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 2]

Interesting question @suetoniuspaullinus glad you raised it as I’m sure it will mean different things to different community members.

We had an interesting encounter with a convention organizer who was adamant he would never want to see one at this events, so certainly commercially it is sensitive.

In Germany, as we know the symbol has been banned, and that is understandable, and I’d be interested to hear from any of our German members their thoughts on it.

I have a concern that today as a society we may, in fact, be empowering these symbols, by trying to hide them away, but equally I have to accept that I am totally desensitized to it and other elements of the Nazis having grown up with them in movies and comedies practically on a daily basis. (Dad’s Army, Aint Half Hot Mum, Fawlty Towers, Monty Python, Allo Allo, never mind the countless movies)

So it’s very easy for me to poke fun at it and Nazis, but my experience is night and day from someone affected by it (loss of family or property) or someone growing up in the shadow of it (like many of our friends across Europe)

I can only relate it to seeing paramilitary type signs over here, we are 20 odd years into peace, but seeing a ‘Sniper At Work’ sign still gives me pause for thought.

In terms of ‘On Camera’ if that same feeling is felt by our German viewers (or others for that matter) I think its worth some consideration (because we really want them to just enjoy the coverage)… but interested to hear what others think. 🙂

[oriskany 60771xp 2]

Cool deal, @brucelea – I only have eight troopers and two LRDG Chevrolets – so I don’t think I have nearly enough for a full game.  I have two more blisters of four men on the way – that will get my 28mm LRDG strength to 16.  Not sure if I can get all this received, painted, and shipped to BoW studios in time.  😀

But of course, I’m also preparing some media / interview materials, a possible campaign game for the weekend, and of course that Panzer Leader game for Sunday hopefully. 😀

Damn, @leifer1971 – you made very fast progress on that PzKpfw III!

[leifer1971Member 628xp 1]

@brucelea

Thanks.
Not sure what the method I used is called.
A friend with much more large scale military modeling experience recommended it as a fast way to paint vehicles/guns.

It involves taking your base color and shading it down a couple of steps (Tamiya Dark Yellow and Flat Earth Mix 60/40).
Then filing in the panels with the finish color (straight Tamiya Dark Yellow).

The blackline and edge highlight (Vallejo Desert Yellow and Sand on the highest points).
He actually recommended a black ink “pin wash”.
I prefer the Technical pen “black line” method.

[oriskany 60771xp 4]

Thanks very much for the tip on shipping, @noyjatat . 😀

@leifer1971 – You say: “I prefer the Technical pen “black line” method.” – Not sure if you were kidding or not, but I’ve totally had to do this on 20mm modern US armor.  Those long, straight, angular lines on an Abrams are friggin’ murder, and I was finding that even pin-washing them for greater contrast was impossible.  So I broke out the thinnest black pen I could (actually I think I used mechanical pencil and soft #1 graphite) and simply drew the damned lines on there.

[warzanKeymaster 31125xp 2]

@oriskany That effect with the pencil turned out brilliant!

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@oriskany

Lovely work on the Abrams!
Dead serious on the drafting pen for blackline. I could never hold a straight line with a brush for very long. I use the KOH-I-NOOR technical drafting pens (.25).
Makes the process somewhat bearable. =)

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@oriskany

Seconded! That Abrams turned out fantastically..I gotta try this ?

 

Thinking about it I will keep any swastikas on my vehicles detachable or obscured to avoid unintentionally spoiling the experience for participants and/ or viewers. Thanks for your thoughts gentlemen ?

[damon 7525xp 1]

Personally I don’t object to a swastika used in the correct historical context. For me a Tiger, Stuka or German helmet and jackboots or SS runes can portray the same Nazi symbolism, how far do we go with ‘revising’ the image of history? As long as there is an understanding of the terror and crimes the Nazi regime commited and these are not trivialised or denied, the symbols don’t need to be excused. But, as we’re only playing with toy soldiers, if others aren’t happy with it, leaving it out isn’t an issue for me.

[leifer1971Member 628xp 0]

Agreed @damon.

Context is everything when dealing with symbols like this.

[commodorerob 11076xp 0]

Ok … If I said scenario that involved Katie and a bottle of Carlsberg at the end who would be up for it?

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