Weekender XLBS: Chatting About Painting with Romain
March 16, 2014 by elromanozo
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Awesome ! Thanks !
Awesome stuff. Three thumbs up. I’d give it four thumbs up but that would be absurd. No-one has four thumbs. As well as blocking a dedicated space for painting, I find blocking out a specific time to paint also works well. If I try and paint ad hoc when I have time then I’m much less likely to do it.
A thousand minis? Ouch.
That’s nothing. Just ask an Ork player. lol
Just wanted to give my opinion on the issues of losing muscle memory. I took a bit of a break from my painting and found that when I returned to the hobby there was a learning curve. It took me a bit to regain my brush control. I also found that I had forgotten techniques I learned, lower my painting options in terms of methods to get certain effects. So i spent, like you Warren, some time going back through Romans videos, to remind myself. Fantastic videos, just as a side note, Roman reminds me of the American painter Bob… Read more »
I Hope i am wrong and I misunderstood, but I am perceiving a slight arrogance towards washes and… “beginner techniques” by Romain, which baffles me. Washes are not just for beginners and I firmly believe that good painters ignore or poo-poo such techniques at their own peril. I’ve experienced quite a few more than passable painters and most are always excited about new tools we can incorporate and use to achieve any desired effect. But as I said… I hope I misunderstood.
I hope I misunderstood
I think you have, remember I’m talking about washes for a very ‘brute force’ method of painting – or rather finishing a model.
The fact that washes are included in the upcoming Techniques Toolbox series, kinda suggests to me that their place has not been overlooked 🙂
I do not know how you could be so mistaken… washes and glazes are my favorite technique ! I do not despise anything, not even the quickshade… I even give advice on how to achieve better results with it.
I would never despise beginners… but I do, unabashedly, despise those who do not want to make the effort.
I am very glad I did misunderstand. Sometimes being wrong feels better than being right. 🙂 Thank you for taking the time to clarify, guys!
A friend of mine converted a computer desk into a paint station which helped his back when he was painting, I guess its because the table part is a good bit higher than the average dining room table.
I also find the clip on magnifiers help a lot, i still get eye strain but nowhere near as quickly as i did before.
Happy sunday and thanks for a great show guys! The painting set looks like a hobbyists dream. You are so right, if you ever been away from painting miniatures it is in some way hard to get in to it again. But it is like sports, only training gives you the practice and muscle, literally and in an abstract kind of sense. Hard to write this down, for example the guys over at massivevoodoo make a great job in inspiring people with the “happy painting spirit” and training all your painting-muscle. Second and much important point is motivation: I found… Read more »
Technique toolbox sounds like a great series. Seeing exactly what a single method looks like vs another is a fantastic idea. Plus it’s always a pleasure to watch Romain paint.
As someone who’s been out of the hobby for a couple of decades and is just getting back into it (through Flames of War and Dreadball), I found the conversation regarding muscle memory and having to relearn all the techniques very interesting. On the workstation side, an old computer desk is not a bad place to start as the keyboard drawer is good for keeping clutter out of the way.
Have a great deal of time for what Romain has to say, great guy.
As for washes, they are a great beginner tool but as Romain pointed out the more experienced painters refine the use of washes to create glaze effects.
Superb video guys and looking forward to the new painting content.
I picked up a very cheap bureau from a charity shop which I’ve made into my painting station. It only cost 30 quid and had built in storage for paints, tools etc. The best thing once I’ve finished painting I can close it up and it’s tidy but keeps everything safe and quick to restart painting when I have more time. Great vid guys. Really looking forward to the 12 part paint series 🙂
For tank and other vehicle painting, the best way is to take a look at other aspects of model building and learn from them. The guys who do plastic model kits (the airfix type) use clay based washes, I’ve used them from this guy and its great. http://www.florymodels.co.uk/washes/ Added benefit of being entirely water soluble, so if you do not lokie th elook you can , literally, damp a bit of kitchen paper and wipe the whole lot of without any damage to the original paintwork. Combine that with some rust coloured weathering powders and you can get some truly… Read more »
Those Flory Models washes look very interesting! Just subscribed to their youtube channel and saw them in action, and they look really good! 🙂
I am honored to be compared to Painting Buddha andMiniature Mentor painters ! I feel I do not deserve the compliment, though… Although my videos have the indubitable advantage of being much more affordable ! 🙂
I’m looking forward to the techniques videos. Even if it’s a technique you’re already aware of, it’s good to see someone else use it to see if you can take ideas about how to use it more effectively. For me painting and converting is what my hobby is mostly about. It takes real work and effort to become a good painter, but mostly it takes a but of nerve and not being afraid to take risks. When I first started as a kid, everything was base coat, wash then dry brush. They looked crap and continued to look crap for… Read more »
Thanks for the praise ! Looks like you get exactly how making progress works !
Well that video was a real ” Double edged sword”. Romain inspires me to take up my paint brush and make inroads into my lead mountain but now I don’t want to start until I have watched his new series.
It’s a lovely day, so I’m going to grab my bow shoot sone arrows and mull over the dilemma.
I always enjoy talking to Romain and getting his feedback on my own miniatures. Although at one point we agreed that he can’t paint tanks and I can’t paint figures 😉 But I do learn and continue to learn a lot by seeing what he comes up with 😀
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If you want a carousel in the UK you could pay £75 here:
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Personally I bought one of these…
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Great to see Roman back in the studio. Really looking forward to his new series of techniques.
One thing I’m curious about is GW’s new paint method VS the more traditional type.
GW’s new setup is. Basecoat > Shade (the replacement for GW washes) > Main colour of models > layer 2 > highlight > (Sometimes) a glaze.
I’ve got to admit, I did the same thing as Warren for my Blood Ravens shoulderpads, with the sepia washes over them after I was done. It ended up looking good enough – well, for me at least.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/504500-Blood%20Ravens%202000pts%20B.html
GW’s “new” paint method is their traditional type. They were doing base, wash, and two-stage highlight back in the late-80’s. The difference not is they’ve configured their entire range towards painting that way.
Just wanted to say really looking forward to Technique toolbox, what great idea!
Grab a cuppa tea, this is a long reply lol! 😀 For me, not having a dedicated area to painting is what what deters me from getting back into it. I’ve recently bought, and built, a large painting tray from Hobby Zone, but knowing I’ll have to set up my paints and water and bits, and that it takes me a while to get into the flow of painting, puts me off too. I need to have several hours where I can just paint without worrying about the time and having to stop just when I’ve got somewhere and my… Read more »
Your story sounds very familiar. Like you I’m returning to painting miniatures after a very long break (20 years in my case). I have very limited space and tools to use I also have very little spare time, I literally managed to paint for a couple of hours this weekend for the first time in two weeks. I also spent a very long time looking at different miniatures before I could decide what I wanted to paint. Every time is nearly bought something I changed my mind as in danger of never getting round to buying anything at all. The… Read more »
The 1000 miniature army challenge, should be Rorke’s Drift.
Orc’s Drift
thousand mini challenge the easy way do it in 10mm you can do it in 2 hours
Losing the mojo…
Hi Warren! Remember Ebbinghaus forgetting (and learning) curves! If you stay long enough at an activity and repeat it often the quicker you learn it and the longer it takes for you to forget (you forget less of what you learned).
My problem also…
Fernando
Looking forward to the painting videos. I’m not the best painter and tend to use the same technique when painting different scale minis so 15mm 28mm etc. is there a one style fits all or does scale dictate the technique you would use?
Off to paint now. I have just based a full unit of bane thralls using my air brushing technique. Now to use my dry brushing technique. Looking forward to those painting tip tutorials.