Cult Of Games XLBS: What Can Miniatures Games Learn From Board Games?
April 11, 2021 by avernos
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It’s the XLBS Show…….Happy Sunday Fellow CoGs!
I love that opening vid clip…….(is my 80’s showing?)
Sunday sounds good to me for the Voice Chat on the Book Club.
Well done to the Golden Button Winners. (good to know @avernos doesn’t care for the Normans…I’ll leave those at home if I ever get the chance to cross the pond to the studio…if travel is ever possible again) 🙂
Oh thanks @brennon for the Mini-Game for Burrows and Badgers. My wife and I’ll try that out next week on game night.
Hope it goes down well 🙂
2nd on Sunday.
HAPPY SUNDAY!!!!!
I was very disappointed with the Winter King version up on audible
It hasn’t been that bad – I just find the dude reading it to be very slow heh.
@brennon I meant compared to the previous versio . Have you tried turning the playback speed up to 1.5. It makes some books better me and the wife have found
Have to agree here. The voicing of Nimue (probably spelt wrongly) was like nails down a black board for me, so much so I had to return the book on audible.
@fcostin After painting one miniature its traditional to take a 6 month break so the muses have time to inspire you again
Also, Why do you have a halo?
Ah yes, I can see this happening with my miniatures that I have already. I start one box, already eyeing up the miniatures in the next box and how I imagine painting them! ?
And there’s the skrinkwapped board games judging me since I’ve been painting…
No halo here! Merely shiny wallpaper which is crying to have my favourite nerdy stuff put on top of it. ?
Got up early this morning and was rewarded with a Golden Button 🙂 Thanks to the Tasty Boys for their kind comments. I really enjoyed painting this army and they came together very nicely, I’m glad you liked them too.
Ben mentions Scythe and the Justin mentions apps in games. I need to lie down I agree in part with the miniatures /boardgame discussion. I wonder where the old Avalon Hill,SPI etc games fall in to this as they were using trackers and countes caps in their games for decades I think the place you perhaps see this best was the introduction of the optional brigade level cavalry manoeuvre rules in to Totopoly Do you also think this crossover with games offering multiple card decks, tracker boards etc have appeared since kick starter reared its ugly head with its ‘But… Read more »
I certainly concur that KS has encouraged the ‘game in a or several boxes’ syndrome, many of which are tending towards a hybrid tabletop/hybrid format with a focus on quantity not quality in many case; and certainly the availability of miniatures at reasonable cost means subbing those in for tokens becomes viable (especially on KS where retail shelf space isn’t such an issue). Some work well (MB:P) while with others it just feels gratuitous (******).
it’s funny you think MB:P is a version that works well. I think that it is the reverse, where tokens or meeples would be much better and that the miniatures are detrimental to the game.
Having a single model that overhangs a board section that 4 units can supposedly fit into just seems to me that the models are shoehorned in and the game would play more cleanly without them.
it’s the minis/art that sell games … which is why companies like GW can afford to make rules secondary.
It’s why so few boardgames are abstract, unless they target a very small niche.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIPF_project
nope, the “miniatures boardgame” is a fraction of the boardgame industry.
Mostly they’re attempting to bring in miniature wargame players.
the vast vast majority of boardgames are marketed based on the rules and not the addition of needless figures
Happy Sunday!
Let’s be honest, in some cases the addition of new paraphernalia to some games is purely an excuse to sell more stuff! It’s the business model!
Regarding ”20min campaign games”. Dead Man’s Hand kind of has that. The scenarios are split into 3 “acts” where the first typically might just take 15mins to play, influences the 2nd act slightly. The 2nd act might take 45mins to play and finally the third bit over an hour. There’s nothing complicated to track, so you can easily spread these across multiple days if you have limited time to play.
A Very Happy Spring Sunday to All ?
It is certain that boardgames see more innovation and development in design mechanics. This is due to the competition in the market, its size and the work designers have to do to get a game noticed. We have seen the porting of boardgame mechanics into wargaming very successfully over the years and the team picked out some great examples with the Studio Tomahawk output being the pick of them for me across the various games (Congo, Muskets and Tomahawks and Saga). As has been pointed out other mainstream wargames include adaped boardgame mechanics, Bolt Action’s activation draw being a strong… Read more »
A very entertaining episode and a great way to start a Sunday morning.
Congrats to Free for a superb job on her first mini – this bodes well for all of your future projects. You clearly have natural talent and skill, the knowledge you’ll pick up as you paint more and interact with the community and their projects will only enhance things further and up your confidence levels. I look forward to seeing more of your work. A+
Ah thank you kindly! ? Been loving seeing what everybody is putting out, and learning along the way thanks to the lads and all y’all lovely peeps in the community!
I miss Warren and Loyd.
Free, that’s stunning for a first painted miniature. Quick query what’s the picture behind your head I like the miniature board game hybrids that have gone out. No need to feel like you have to buy new stuff to keep up with the “meta” or constant rule updates. In terms of status effects I concur “kibble” on the table becomes a pain. Not played age of signal but they do have “endless spells”. Would physical gaming piece rather than cardboard be good for marking status effects (sci-fi shields, smoke, fire etc) might help with the cinematic feel of table top… Read more »
I know one of the CLASH brothers, Francisco, has made fatigue markers that are actually 1,2, or 3 stones on a base with the same ground cover as his units, this was a genius way to hide it. I don’t mind minimal markers on a unit one or maybe two of them is tolerable, but when you have potentially 8 or 9 following is too many. The endless spells is an interesting example, it’s a game effect rather than a status effect on a unit so while they look a lot better than a coin on the table I don’t… Read more »
Ooh it’s the COGz show Yayyy
All hale King Gerry ?
I’m going to have to re-listen to the book I’ve forgot about half of the winter king Aaaah. This is part one folk’s
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=free+audio+books+the+winter+king&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dfree%2baudio%2bbooks%2bthe%2bwinter%2bking%26FORM%3dHDRSC3&view=detail&mid=0C2FE338AD986FE9B4380C2FE338AD986FE9B438&rvsmid=8FBCFBE4EDC29A0AB12C8FBCFBE4EDC29A0AB12C&FORM=VDRVRV
Steelers the mad max year’s?
It’s looking good Free
I have found that a lot of audio books seem to be read slowly. The cynic in me believes this is to make you feel like you are getting more for the money. Definitely speed it up.
Great work Ben.
Well, this Pandemic has Exhausted my reading choices, so I d/l Winter king onto my Kindle guess I’ll get on board with this book club.
Ooh no fear dominoes in the Clansman? Lol
Nice one guy’s.
Happy Sunday.
Congrats to the Golden Button winners, some fantastic ideas there.
Ben, I’ve been looking at getting some of those Battle Mats books from Loke for my Rangers of Shadow Deep games, They’d be great for your Tavern Brawl game.
Nice to see the book club is still a thing, I’m 80% of the way through and have slowed right down in my reading (too much painting and not enough time to read). This will give me the incentive to pick it up and finish it. Looking forward to hearing what other people thought of it.