Cult Of Games XLBS: Do Games Need Regular Releases To Keep Us Playing?
December 13, 2020 by lloyd
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It’s the XLBS SHOW…..Happy Sunday CoGs! …at the point when @lloyd left the camera range in his room, he should have said, “Hold my beer!” Then jumped out the window to fetch carrots. Israel having contact with aliens??? This I just never expected! As an American, I can honestly say, “I’m not happy if the Chinese Government put a base on the moon before We do!” So you are very correct @avernos With regard to Companies needing to constantly release new stuff to keep folks playing…..I have seen this happen first hand. The minute that a game stopped getting new… Read more »
It was Terry Gilliam’s 80th birthday a couple of weeks ago and he is still very much like an excited kid, there’s a BFI interview with him online and it was fantastic to see. It got me thinking maybe I should paint mine, and then today these show up in the Golden Butt Butt Dings and now I’m pretty certain I have to
Maybe we can have a slow motion race to see who finishes first! ??
I can honestly say that i have two bits boxes. I have started teaching my spawn to hold onto bits and he too has a good collection of bits.
I used to have a massive bitz box but when I had to move it became a pain in the arse to transport. So…I just dumped it all (recycled). But, alas for bitz!
HAPPY SUNDAY!!!
I don’t know if minis keep games alive, but I know that when the minis stop, the game doesn’t last much longer.
Good morning to you all and a Happy Sunday everyone hope this finds you all well. If anyone fancies a entertaining podcast about UFOs try the Josh Rogan experience with retired Navel Air Force Squadron Leader David Fravor or the Bob Lazar episode that one is bonkers. There’s always a book or movie release linked to these things. Id sign up for a one way trip to Mars, there’s bound to already be a Irish themed pub staffed by Australians when I get there. I’ve been painting up cheaply bought £1 store knock off transformers in 80s cartoon colours as… Read more »
I think you’re right on the community side of things. Or having a very vocal and involved lead for a company. It makes the difference and feels like they care.
It’s good to know the company or lead from the company that designs and produces the game your interested in is themselves not simply interested from a financial stance. I understand that financial investment in the company project is important but such examples as the Drowned Earth Community input from the creator or Stuart’s input into facebook discussions regarding Warcradel Projects give me sense that they are interested and enjoy the process. Of course not all companies have the time or ability to do so but if Brigade Models, relatively small companies can get involved so I think so could… Read more »
Happy Sunday!!
At least I hope it is…
I have a Bits collection in some small office drawers – the problem is they’re mostly GW sprues etc,and I haven’t modelled anything GW for years. I think I’ve just solved one of my many storage problems!
Anyone want any old pre-Primaris, Blood Angel sprues?
Who knows – it might all become relevant again in the future!
So Lloyd’s destruction of the Feng Shui in his room when he changed it about and affected his enthusiasm for painting?
Are we surprised?
Always consult your local Feng Shui expert first
Did you record all those games of SAGA in the secret Chinese moonbase
Yep – you should have seen the tables the Chinese were able to afford and build for us.
There are quite a few examples of games that have continued to live even after there is no support anymore. Communities tend to keep something alive if it is popular enough.
When Conquest released their artwork for the planned new factions it actually stopped me buying miniatures for the current range as there were a couple of designs in the artwork that really liked. With me trying to focus on having a single force for a lot of gaming systems rather than multiples for the same games I am now in a holding pattern for Conquest for their future faction releases.
It can certainly change your mind on a faction. I remember starting out a Stormcast Eternal army and then the Fyreslayers got shown. I stopped concentrating on Stormcast and just bought Fyreslayers instead. I reckon I need better discipline!
I can understand that buddy. I think something will always come out from a range that you like more but I do think you still like what you chose first. It’s rare for me to like more than one or two armies in a range and within those armies, I normally don’t field miniatures that I don’t like the look of which can sometimes mean I don’t do an army at all if it needs a unit I don’t like aesthetically. I suppose it helps my shiny syndrome not get out of hand 😀
About a year ago my mates and I started playing Warcry. About 2 months ago we started using the Cities of Sigmar list in White Dwarf. 2 Weeks ago we started using Mordheim minis and now we’re in the middle of Warcry campaign set in Mordheim. We loved the nostalgia but the Mordheim rules were unnecessarily complex.
Similarly we are looking at Starwars Armada with the view of seeing if Battlefleet Gothic can ne impossed on it. Again, loved the setting, the rules haven’t aged well.
KoW was also an awesome way to keep fighting in the Warhammer universe without playing Warhammer.
in Feb A Billion Suns is coming, hold onto your Gothic for that 😉
Sunday. XLBS. Coffee. Let’s go.
Lol XLBS show.
Now is Lloyd off for a pee when he was getting the carrots?
Great show as always. On games “dying” due to lack of support I’m increasingly purchasing self contained miniature board games. They never “die” through lack of the new “shiny” or the Meta stagnating.
Similarly I’m switching to historics, having been burnt from game systems that fizzled out.
I’d personally love a formal GW “Warhammer epic” style game. They based adeptus titanicus scale based on what they could scale “troops” too without loosing too much detail, so would guess that might be mirrored in fantasy.
Fingers crossed they do something like Warmaster for sure!
The bits at GW Mail Order didn’t usually require calls on the casters (though Gerry ordering 50 of a specific shield certainly would). They did take up a huge amount of space in the warehouse and took a lot more effort to get £50 of product out the door than popping Blood Bowl and a Land Raider into a box. Your picker would be rocking around various bins of metal looking for specific bits possibly among near identical other bits. Someone else would check that order, send them back out to fix it, etc. and so on. I was a… Read more »
but a kilo of lead for £20 was amazing and you know it 🙂
It bloody was. My biggest regret was putting a nazgul winged beast head on my chaos knight champion’s horse and not the entire unit.
Are you sure he’s not cauld hid in a shed?
Send Matt Damon?
Those new figures Ben was showing could be good used as battle monk’s to go into a battle sister’s army?
I haven’t had time to watch yet, but the question posed as the title I can answer. No they don’t need regular updating to keep me playing – in fact regular changes (new versions) put me off – I’m looking at Privateer Press more than anything with Warmachine and Hordes – I enjoyed the game in the first version, but the new additons and new versions have pushed me away. However, I can understand the need to release new stuff to keep people purchasing things and hence maintain a cashflow mechanism. Having said all that I lost interest in Wargods… Read more »
I think you’ve hit on something there. A new game needs a lot of stuff available quickly but once established, too many releases can burn us out.
There is certainly a balancing act that you need to achieve
I do like Lloyd’s talking about “suffering” new releases (not sure they were the exact words, it was some time back in the vid). I feel the same. I got a bit burned out by Warmachine and feared WH40k because of it. I’ve started Imperial Guard a large part because of the lack of releases, and most other things I want to do are minis agnostic.
I want to build up armies I can use in a variety of games without minis companies adding to my already daunting “to do” list.
More great button winner’s.
Nice one Guy’s.
00:00 That grinch needs some WD40 01:00 CoG-legtive hive mind! 03:10 and here I am thinking that “string theory” always was about hot babes and bikinis… 06:05 “Did he jump out the window?” XD 07:30 Carrots…. the Gerry of carrots and the Lloyd of carrots… when Warren sees this episode he’ll die laughing… SEND AN AMBULANCE! 12:45 “Who’s going to sign up for that?” Oh @lloyd … so many people have had it with people on earth and would love to leave permanently 😉 17:00 Aliens? Yes. Do people know it if? Possibly. Do I care? Covid-19 …. if you… Read more »
I can’t believe @avernos was teasing us with the top of that T-shirt all show and never did stand up and show it in all its glory… ;-P
Henlo Frenly Frenz…
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One thing to remember when comparing GW’s cadence of releases to other companies; they are supporting a multitude of games! I know a lot see it as essentially two games (40K and Fantasy/AoS) it is really a lot of individual games and rulesets. On top of that, they have a gazillion factions for each of those games so as a player of a particular faction in a particular ruleset you actually don’t get updates that often. The fact that GW does books and video games as well – which makes into their updates news cycle – just amplifies this even… Read more »
It has certainly kept me interested and in the verge of buying back into their games simply because of the amount of stuff they pump out into the news.
I think there’s a few issues when a company isn’t releasing on some form of regular basis. The first is it means the distribution chain doesn’t have new stuff to sell and therefore doesn’t promote it. A LGS is going to push products that bring in regular revenue over those that release from time to time. It can also cause people to think the company is dropping support which threatens the potential of a game in gamers minds. While those who have the game could certainly continue to play if the game isn’t supported then it won’t be on shelves,… Read more »
I think that community engagement element is key to filling the time for sure. Having a way to get people playing the game and buzzing about it as a larger group – at tournaments and the like, is a top priority I reckon.