Weekender XLBS: Telling Stories With Miniatures
December 2, 2018 by crew
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Happy Saturday night
… Second …. sigh …. Happy Sunday afternoon
Happy Sunday! As far as telling stories with miniatures, that’s what I do with every tabletop minis game that I play. I have never played a game with intentions of only winning. For me it’s all about telling a story. Every game is a movie for me that takes place on the table. I have a very hard time trying to get into the head of a competition only gamer. Why play a game that has no back story. I know everyone is usually aware of the game universe information but what I’m getting at is, how did the forces… Read more »
I agree with @templar007 winning is secondary to telling a story and having a laugh with your mate(s) while gaming.
Yep – no point playing a game if you’re out to just stomp your opponent. I don’t like that at all, would much prefer to play through proper narrative experiences where the effect is shared between players.
Happy Sunday!!
Any game I play where my force doesn’t have names and backgrounds is less enjoyable than being able to be completely immersed and working with my named team who is charging at bleeding for me at my orders.
Hmm … Okay.
Happy Sunday… or it would be if my Virgin broadband was working at any kind of meaningful level!
has it been deflowered?
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Did I hear reference to these or similar MPATHG diorama units?
https://www.behance.net/gallery/2428458/Monty-Python-and-the-Holy-Grail-Warhammer-Miniatures
Oh yes. That’s them. Brilliant army. And one of the main reasons I decided to seriously step up my game when I first saw it.
@warzan I highly doubt Adolf Hitler and Hess were in a Homosexual Relationship that’s a very suspicious story that branches out from an exaggeration of a true story. Out of interest what was the Documentary/Youtuber you watched I’d like to check them out. The head of the SA Ernst Rohm was a Homosexual (as @dignity mentioned) and when he was arrested and the SA murdered it was announced to the public that he was a Homosexual. The anti-Nazi propaganda that was then put out was that Hitler and Rohm were lovers but that was total lies. Hess was absolutely a… Read more »
I would add that the King was a very close friend of Lord Harris who was trying to make peace overtures with Germany even after Churchill became PM. So with Churchill advocating no negotiation with Germany and Hitler something to be fair he’d been advocating throughout the 1930’s his working relationship with the King was never going to be perfect
@torros you’re absolutely correct. I believe it was Lord Halifax that bought the initial Peace Treaty (via Italian Mediation) to Churchill but he took it to the King First as a kind of power play to force a peace. Churchill eventually opened up negotiations under extreme protest but the Italian’s exposed themselves a few months later and that just increased Churchill’s reluctance to negotiate. @warzan if you’re interested in Churchill I would recommend the movie “Darkest Hour” it covers the politics as well as a movie and so it’s not perfect but it’s a good way to get eh General… Read more »
No idea why I typed Harris
Thanks very much for the Darkstar mention, @elessar2590 – and I’ll chime in that your 3D models for your the game and backstories on your starship classes look great!
https://www.beastsofwar.com/project/1305519/
As far as the what you say above re: the historical discussion, I agree just about 100% with what you’re saying. I would just add Wilhelm Stuckart as a co-author of the Nuremberg laws, and given Hess’ overall levels of competence , hypochondria, and co-dependence, I would probably place most of the “credit” (if you want to call it that) with Stuckart.
I should elaborate re: Churchill. Prior to WWII Chamberlain and his Government were utterly opposed to another War. They were willing to do anything to avoid a war until people like Churchill (he wasn’t alone) drew a line in the sand and got the Government to agree to it. Austria had fallen, Czechoslovakia had fallen both of them had flooded Germany with men, weapons and equipment and a sense that they could operate with impunity. Think of Germany like a street gang, the USSR like a Mafia Boss and the Western Allies like the Police. The Street Gang can operate… Read more »
I think another problem was that that the public in the 30′ saw Churchill as a self promoting rogue politician flip flopping between parties eventually getting back into Parliament as an independent. People’s memory of the Dardanelles campaign and to a lesser extent his fervent opposition to Indian independence meant he was in he political wilderness from 29 to 39 and so without much hope that the British people saw him become PM after Chamberlain
I shall hunt it down, popped up on auto play during a bout of recent insomnia 🙂
If it was during a bout of insomnia, are you sure sleep deprivation didn’t mess with your perceptions and get what was actually said muddled up? ?
I’m not that familiar with the period, but i thought it worth adding that i did hear somewhere ( i cannot recall where ) that Chamberlain wasn’t a pacificist as such. Chamberlain ployed money into the navy and was more inclined to make sure that Britain continued to maintain it’s place as a world power via that navy. Do correct me if i’m wrong about that.
@totsuzenheni you’re 100% correct. There’s a big difference between Pacifism and plain not wanting to go to war.
Pacifism to me is doing anything possible, including damaging concessions to avoid war while “Avoidancism” is just doing everything to avoid war without giving any ground personally.
@ elessar2590 I’d not heard of the term ‘avoidancism’ before. I’ve read about the distinction between ‘non-violence’ and ‘pacificism’, a distinction that Gandhi made if recall correctly, with non-violence being about methodology and pacificism being about avoidance.
To be fair I made it up because i couldn’t find the right word. I wouldn’t call them non-violent but more inclined to avoid war.
It’s a good term. I might use it. Miss out the ‘c’ for slicker pronounciation maybe. ‘Avoidanism’.
Morning everyone!
Morning!
Our entire house was packed out WED-FRI. Had a nice relaxing morning watching the show, now off to start cleaning the house so we can turn it back over to the Army!
Great show as usual guys. Would have to agree that the minis are a crucial part of gaming/narrative for me. For me it truly is about socializing with other gamers and telling a story. Just playing a points match for me is really not fun at all, and I’ve come to the point that without a narrative I almost don’t even bother playing a game. I’d rather socialize and hang out with other gamers while they play. That was probably evident at the FOW boot camp as I only played in a couple of games. I think the only exception… Read more »
wow what a table and screen upgrade…..
Time to listen to some big talk on the issues of the day. See you on the other side ?
come on Boffins!
I would have thought every game was a story be it a campaign, competition or just throwing stuff on the table for an evenings gaming (Sorry can’t remember what the new fangled hipster names for these are) without going to all the trouble of names and back stories
I will leave that for when I’m playing RPG’s
Of course, but there’s something kinda awesome about it being elevated above just metal/plastic/resin pieces being moved around a tabletop.
Even if it’s ‘Grey Marine Bob’ and he does something epic, that’s kinda cool.
@dignity NOOOO! Stick with vallejo. They have far more blue intermediate tones in the range. Highlighting is easier with more intermediate shades as you have to do less mixing for blends. Don’t be scared of having edge highlights that are not blended but have quite a stark transition between them and the base tone. It looks weird close up but at the tabletop distance (2′ or more) it doesn’t look as odd.
Happy Sunday guys.
@dracs Damn fine work dude. The army looks great now it’s finished.
Great episode guys, really enjoyed it!
@dignity lovely stuff with the Ultramarines mate! I’m working on some myself currently! The edge highlights is something i’ve just started to try out… Though a light dry brush can look good as well as it picks out all of those edges.
@dracs Congrats on the fully painted force! Hard to beat that feeling of seeing all your work on the table top.
Anyone else think that in that colourised pic of Hess that Justin showed, he kinda looked like he was supposed to be presenting The Twilight Zone? ? “Hitler was bisexual” – great, as if us LGBTQ folk didn’t have it hard enough, now there’ll be Nazi comparisons. ? Sam is getting sick of Hobbits? Surely a sign of the End Times – What’s ext, Ben is selling all his Burrows & Badgers minis? ? Fun > Winning I’ll disagree with @dracs that it was right to cut Scouring of the Shire from the films because there were already too many… Read more »
Forgot to add that my plan for Tzaangor Enlightened is to use some Tomb Kings Ushabti I have lying around; I dislike the idea of Tzaangors riding discs (as above the theme in my army is that they’re downtrodden scum, so aren’t deserving of the honour of discs), so I’m taking advantage of the fact the whole model has the Daemon keyword, not just the disc, so the idea is that these are Tzaangor that have been used to make Daemonhosts and their bodies have become twisted/mutated by the daemon bound to them. I’m also considering a Tzaangor Shaman, but… Read more »
Happy Sunday guys, @dignity when your right, your right. You and the community managed to turn Warren around again buddy. Are we seeing less diversity through bitz bashing in the miniatures that people field? In my community that’s a yes. If so what are the reasons behind that? I find that a lot of people within my gaming community and the events it runs rarely have a fully painted force these days nevermind a converted one and that’s okay. I doubt it is due to time constraints as they are the same now for most people of a gaming age… Read more »
Personally I don’t bother but it’s less of an issue in the smaller scales
Surely @brennon would be the Great Oz, he is after all just a disembodied head 😉
Happy Sunday.. I really have to say Tomas’s Farmers are utterly fabulous. Although @warzan I will say that with you comment about there is nothing the creators of Guild Ball can do to to remove that story, are you aware that there is a very fleshed out background for the guildball universe including the farmers…lol so it not gaming in the gaps but creating an alternative story.
Happy Sunday folk’s Hesse’s plan crashed in the Hill’s behind largs Guy’s
@warzan BOWs version of haggard.?
(Hagrid)!
Happy sunday!
@warzan back to Hitler,Hess abd Mien Kamf – they wrote it while imprisoned after a failed coup in Barvaria in the 20s -so to call Hess less that a true beliver in the cause … You might enjoy Hitlers Henchmen on Netflix
Is it just or are others pissed that saruman never used magic to breach the wall at helms deep.
On the subject of game’s terrain I loved some of the setting’s in space marine between ork wave’s. @warzan @dignity @crew
On the topic of telling stories with miniatures, you really need to check out this blog:
https://bigsmallworlds.com
The owner is running a long standing campaign in the Tilean city states of the Old World with very elaborate stories, custom built terrain, armies and photography.