Warhammer: The Horus Heresy – Legions Imperialis Review | First Impressions
November 27, 2023 by warzan
Over the recent years, I have fallen in love with smaller scales of wargaming. I tend to think about wargaming in larger ways these days. For example, what's a gaming table going to look like?
It's the overall effect of a game I have come to love - a beautiful gaming table with two big armies slogging it out. For me, the spectacle of it all is very important. Games like Flames of War have nailed this, and with Warpath from Mantic Games going to an epic scale and our colleagues over at Warcradle Studios bringing Armoured Clash to the tabletop on a small scale too; I feel a bit like If going to be entering a wargaming paradise over the next few years.
Why Legions Imperialis Matters
Warhammer 40,000 is arguably going the wrong way in terms of scale. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE who gets into 40K, will dream of really big battles. Again, it's the spectacle you just cannot shift from your mind. A trip to Warhammer World will only reinforce this and all this despite the lore and background suggesting that Space Marines are really rare on the ground. Well, that's what the background says, but every rule book, codex, or expansion has shown the opposite with huge numbers of Space Marines taking on the foes of the Imperium.
Warhammer: The Horus Heresy - Legions Imperialis | First Impressions
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Then you had Forge World, who pumped out the most incredible Titans and other "super heavy" vehicles and that sense of escalation increased. I'm the first to admit that I get carried away and really do struggle to temper my enthusiasm but even I came to the conclusion that 40K, as it exists today, just can't facilitate that vision of itself for your average gamer.
We want to go big. Technology has advanced to the point that insane detail can be achieved on even small models - so in steps Legion Imperialis.
My Grognard buddies are shouting at their screens that they have seen all this before. "It was called EPIC". Yes, you have, but let's focus on the here and now shall we?
Let's Take A First Look...
Ok, let me get this out of the way right now. Upon opening the box the first things I see are no less than two WHIPPY STICKS!!!!!
So I had to do my obligatory Zorro impression with them and imagine the looks on my colleagues' faces when I deftly gave them a little tickle with my finely honed whippy stick skills.
Then, it was back to the job in hand but much thanks to Games Workshop for including them so generations to come can still feel the joy of rubbing Savlon cream onto whippy stick-induced welts from a sibling!
Holy Horus! These Are Small
The first thing that strikes you is just how tiny the infantry actually are in this game! You would be forgiven for wondering how on earth you are going to paint these - heck, I'm hunting down my magnifying glasses just to clip them off the sprue!
Fear not, generations of gamers have been down this road before us and I have learned to trust and respect the Grognard when they say relax, it's actually easier to paint the smaller scales. They should know as they are running games at 6mm and even 2mm scales! So, I'm not going to worry about painting these yet - that's for a future article in this series.
All The Detail You Want Is There
When I explored each of the sprues, I absolutely loved the level of detail that had been crafted onto the models, especially the vehicles and Warhound Titans, they look fantastic. I may be in the minority here, but for me, the most important thing in the game is troops.
Troops on the ground are the number one thing I look for in small-scale games. Why? Because they really, really matter in war and conflict.
Troops make a massive difference to the dynamics of a game and for me, I don't like them being treated as an afterthought in the game mechanics or the sculpting and manufacturing process.
I Think I May Have Been Wrong
When the initial reviews and photos of the models dropped, I was immediately concerned about a manufacturing design technique that had been adopted where part of the models were "filled in", namely behind weapons and underarms. At first glance, it seemed a really odd choice of the designers to do this, and really cheapened the models in my mind.
However, having now seen them in the flesh, I'm gonna hold my hand up and say I was wrong on that. You see, one of my pet hates that many designers seem to do these days is to fill models with tiny, fragile, extraneous details and flourishes that are just screaming to be snapped off by clumsy guys like me.
When I saw how tiny the Legion Imperialis models were, my blood did start to run cold for a second. I was thinking, "how on earth am I going to handle these?" But looking at the models on the sprue, the extra filler is very difficult to spot but actually adds a great deal of support material and structure, making the models a lot more robust than you would think at first sight.
What You Get In The Set
In the box are four frames of troops, four frames of tank components, and three frames for the two Warhound models. The sprues are well laid out and every component is numbered. There is also a full colour-coded assembly guide in the box so give yourself some time and enjoy the process of putting this all together.
My tips? Get yourself a really good set of new flat-faced clippers for this and a hobby scalpel with a few new blades. Take your time and don't be afraid to do it over multiple evenings and sittings.
There are bases in the box for the troops and the Warhounds (see below) and they look great but I'm gutted that the troops' bases are 25mm instead of 32mm as the larger base gives far more scope for doing some interesting base designs and gives more space for the troopers to be laid out. I'm going to look through the rulebook and see just how important base size is to this game, as I'm really tempted to ditch the 25mm bases and just run with 32mm.
There is a sheet of tokens (these are used to mark the orders you are giving to units. For example, if you want them to focus on movement or more on shooting) and it seems like a really thin stock card was used for these. This feels like a real shame and does cheapen the experience for such an expensive box. They really should have been created using a hardwearing, laminated, thick card stock at the minimum.
Decals are also included in the box and this is crucial as painting markings at this scale is going to be near impossible.
I was delighted to see a sheet included to save me from going blind! I also hope other sheets of decals are or become available for some of the other legions.
The Rulebook!
There is a big, heavy rule book in the box that, in true Games Workshop fashion, is what we call in the industry "DENSE AF!" Yep, there is a metric ton of information in there, which is great, but my arms tire holding these big flipping books, so a mini rules-only book would have been a godsend. Alas, that was not to be. Shout out to Battlefront, makers of Flames Of War, who to this day place great importance on having the mini rules available!
Despite the weight of this tome, I'm an optimist and thought, never worry, in the online reviews and how-tos, they just used the cards. So, I looked for those as they would make life so much easier. I looked and I looked again and yep, there were no cards included in the box! I went online to discover that those cards are an Online-Only Exclusive available only from Games Workshop and are, in fact, sold out. Yeah, that right there is not a good look.
If you are launching a new game, your emphasis should be on making it easy for people to get into the game, so include the things that make it easy! Certainly don't let them go out of stock! What possible long-term value is there in having helped someone not get into a new game?
The rule book itself is nice, and like any gamer, the first thing I did was flick through the illustrations and photos for inspiration. There are full-colour sections covering the Legions, the Solar Auxilia, the Titan Legios and the Knight Houses.
It's a nice book, but my efforts will be on trying to get the cards and seeing how much value I get out of the quick reference sheets.
So Where Next?
I'm going to continue documenting my journey into this game. I think it's impossible to "review" a game like this in any really meaningful way this early in its release, but what I can do is drop a few tips here for those of you who might fancy joining me on this journey.
- This game is set in the Horus Heresy period; the basic difference is that it's basically all Space Marines battling against each other. It should mean that we can build some pretty interesting forces from what's in the starter box with even a mix of Solar Auxilia and Astartes in the same roster - we will see!
- Chaos is still quite hidden for most of the Traitors so you don't need to worry too much about a lot of the chaos iconography and conversions. If you want to, of course, you can fill your boots but it's not a necessity.
- Titans are support units that attach to Legions, so they have their own colour schemes and of course, the background is so large and diverse that you can invent your own. I also see no reason why Titans can't be painted in the scheme of a Legion; if a Primarch asked for it...who would say no?
- Build an Army vs. Build a Battle - you can easily pick a Legion and start building out an interesting army for this game. I'm taking a slightly different tack though and I'm hoping to build a battle. So, I asked my friends on social media for some input on what battles would meet the following criteria...
- Really big battles using all the assets available: Troops, Transports & Titans.
- Some dynamic battles that could take place in an interesting environment and not a siege (sieges are difficult to get right in wargames, so avoid them unless you are willing to put in work on the mechanics of it).
- No clear, obvious outcome of the battle; so a fight that could go either way.
One of the suggestions that came back was the Doom Of Molech, which is a fascinating encounter that took place while Horus was making his way to Terra. It's covered in a module for Adeptus Titanicus and in great detail in the Black Library Novel Vengeful Spirit by Graham McNeill.
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So let me know your thoughts and ideas in the comments. I'm off to find some extra-strong magnifiers!
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Mmmm looks like I may have to just embrace the 25mm basing+
@warzan Word of advice, just in case you had not figured this out, but I am sure you have. Don’t stick the figures to the bases before painting them, small scale may look easy to paint that way, but my advice as a 6mm figure painter stick them to a temporary strip of something, like a lollipop stick or tongue depressor before painting them. Then stick them to the base once painted.
You can easily paint the infantry on the sprue. The sprues are deliberately designed for that purpose, and the miniatures are attached by single attachment points on the bottom of their bases. Easier and quicker than clipping them off and attaching them to something else. ?
@warzan I’m glad you have taken a look and now feel slightly more optimistic about the miniatures. I would highly recommend all the free Galactic crusaders files that are all free and easily to find on the internet to print off on your home printer. all the infantry is scaled perfectly to fit the new 8mm size and it really opens up lots of distinct flavour and style of your marine legions. I know you love lots of tiny fighting men and this could be a very good way of really expanding your experience of the game without breaking the… Read more »
what legion you going to go for??
Raven Guard as always for me!
Whippy sticks! I hope Justin didn’t get whipped too bad. Or that he at least liked it.
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A nice read. Looking at your pics of the sprues the miniatures don’t look as bad as what some people have said. I’m used to older plastics and even with modern plastics from say North Star or Mantic if you look under a model it’s pretty much filled up under there. Two of my friends have this game on preorder so I guess in a couple of weeks or so I’ll get to see the models for myself in person. Funny story about those whippy sticks, apparently they use GW inches rather than accepted inch, or at least they used… Read more »
Thanks for the article. I am a long time Epic player. I began with the Old Adeptus Titanicus and never looked back. My favourite iteration of Epic is ‘Epic Armageddon’. There is a fan-based supplement for the Horus Heresy you can look at here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170915232944/http://epicau.com/mw/index.php?title=Main_Page&printable=yes
If the new rules are not up to standard I will revert to Epic AU 30K above.
You can also look at ‘Horus Heresy Centurion’ which is another fan-based work (also on OTT). You can look at it here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/688376385544192
https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/centurion-6mm-horus-heresy/
I hope this helps with choice and ideas.
Adieu!
Do agree!
Lack of the card packs is a real problem with GW game systems and genuinely does create barriers for play and getting into the game. Learning to play Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game with my son has been made more clunky because we have to share one hardback book with all the profiles in. They should make the card packs available for as long as the books are in print.
WHIPPY STICKS!!!!! An excellent first impressions article, including a pretty through unboxing along with thoughts on the set. It will be very interesting to see how the assembly and painting goes and your impressions once you get forces onto a gaming table for a real feel of what the end result is like. I’ve been sort of keeping my eye on this new range, I’m not convinced its a great setting given I find space marine pretty boring, but I can see how its a great way to test the waters with minimal sprues, similar to warlord with epic acw.… Read more »
For an Epic battle, take a look at the Betrayal of Calth. About 40 years prior to the start of the Horus Heresy, the Emperor sanctioned the Word Bearers for worshipping him as a god, and teaching the worlds under their control that the Emperor was a god. This was in direct contradiction to the Imperial Truth, that there were no gods or demons. The Emperor gathered the entire Word Bearers legion and used his psychic powers to force the entire legion to kneel. He then ordered the Ultramarines to destroy the city of Monarchia, the crown jewel in the… Read more »
@warzan.
I’m really happy that your spirits have been lifted back up again. Felt a bit devastated for you when you first saw the ‘chicken arms’.
Like yourself I’m not really a GW fanboy but can appreciate a nice model or product when I see one.
Looking forward to seeing how this goes for you, the warhound s do look rather nice.
Nice review @warzan, for a bit I had my hopes up it would be a video, but with your work shedules, can understand how that probably couldn’t be slotted in within the time constraints before is released.
Expanding forces for this might make a great hobby weekend ala star wars if that is even remotely feasble, and I have a prespective victim (not Kevin).
I think the blocking infill issue has been hyped by the internet (what a surprise!) In reality it is a given with the constraints of 15mm hard plastic models. If you look at Warlord’s Epic Battles models (I’ve just painted up 9 sprues of ECW infantry, so I know them well…!) there are the exact same issues. Bottom line, if you want to do 15mm in hard plastic then you will have this problem. The only alternatives are really static poses (as occurred with GW’s original Epic) or multipart models – for 15mm men. The former is a fair choice… Read more »
Yeah, I agree! I listened to a podcast where one of the guys said he has seen the infantry in person and they are lovely. He said there is no way anyone will 3D print anything even close to as nice as the infantry and tanks in LI.
Nice review. I was pretty down on the box before but this lifts my spirits again (EPIC being one of my favourite games ever).
Did they bring back the troop cards for army building?
Minis in the box looks really good and I’m looking forward to giving the book a read 🙂
I couldn’t believe the paper order and objective tokens though so made these https://dragons.rest/products/terraforma-epicminium-tokens
Going to be a while till my copy ships here… 9th Dec is shipping day in Aus :/
yay for you, i will wait for my me necrons