VLOG: Points Of View – Your Weekender Comments
February 13, 2019 by lloyd
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Super-appreciate being included in the discussion, guys. 😀 I’ll be honest, I hadn’t considered what happens if more than one person wants to start an entry on the same battle. I was just wondering if the community might find the database more useful if there was some way to gauge (a) who / where it came from and by extension, the general “quality” level of the entry (I guess this would matter more for historical). Please understand, I’m not trying to be “grognard elitist” here – the ten sources and twenty books and 400-piece 5-hour wargames that say … “Oriskany”… Read more »
Yeah I’m still trying to get my head around it too mate.
I understand completely where your coming from though, I’m just wondering how we achieve that and still keep it kind of ‘wiki like’ so we don’t end up with a mass of duplicate entries.
I need a little more time to work out the mechanics of it, but it could be as simple as having little to no information in the base entry, and the information is contained in individual users projects and those projects are ranked based on some form of ‘quality’ rating perhaps?
Just to muddy the waters, do you it would work to somehow identify Subject Matter Experts (SME) within the community that could entries in the registry? It could: – help to separate it from the curration team, so they don’t feel overloaded- – build on @oriskany‘s quality of data point – be an achievement for the member so recognised I do realise that there could be a negative gatekeeper type aspect to this. perhaps the community itself could make the nominations as to an SME. Just a thought…. PS: thanks for the shoutout again, but I’m a Kiwi, not an… Read more »
I am of the opinion that it should be simple and easy to use when it comes to this database. I don’t think we need there to be clarifications on specifics or authentication of entries as it were – especially when it comes to the detail of it. We’re not Wikipedia, as we’ve talked about before, and folks will go there for that information. When it comes down to it I think it’s (in my opinion) something as simple as… Battle Name: Whatever the battle might be called Battle Realm: Fictional/Factual (just a drop-down menu to choose which) Date: Simply… Read more »
This is now my favorite mid-week show/series…
The whole photo recon thing works well .It was a little more awkward 25 years ago when we did it before mobile phones but was great fun
I’m working away and being put up in a hotel ATM, i jumped on the bed and flipped open the laptop to enjoy some gaming material and there i see my comment on “points of view!”. I am well chuffed!
Great episode guys and i am with @warhammergrimace on this one, this show has become a real mid-week treat that allows a deeper thrashing out of ideas as well as an opportunity to review material from the community that could give whole new perspectives on a topic.
Looking forward to next week POV!! (Non erotic of course!!)
Re. the idea of GW creating a closed eco-system for 3d printed minis. I fully expect you are correct and that if 3d printing becomes as ubiquitous as we all think it will then they will attempt to go down this route. The question for me though is whether they will succeed sufficiently to make a viable business model. The reason I am sceptical is that they haven’t a great track record when it comes to technology – remember the GW patented “flamer” airbrush powered branded cans of compressed air? That was GW’s attempt to grab a slice of the… Read more »
LettinG the big boys put adds directly on your server could lead to trouble.
But, then again sWoping C and D letters could be considered a blood sport.
Don’t we all enjoy good bloody sports.
@warzan I think I have said this before, but re different types of playing games. One of the magazines ran a game where the players were given a description of the area they were moving into and were represented as web cams so they can only see what their table top avatar can see. They each had I think 1-2 runners representing brigade commanders feeding back to the c&c…
It’s almost like YouTube don’t understand that most people skip the adverts?
Finally got it right first try @warzan ? On the game @dignity brought up with a team of players in the command bunker and one player moving the minis – anyone else remember the TV ‘Time Commanders’ on BBC2 year’s back where they had a team of four players using Rome Total War to refight battles from history where two players were the generals and were giving orders from a dais while the other two were down ‘in the trenches’ relaying orders to the guys controlling the computers? Sounds similar to what Justin is mentioning albeit computised instead of with… Read more »
Tea? TEA? @warzan tries to kill me!11!! *now of watching the video*
On the topic of YouTube and blacklisting it. Since you already upload content to vimeo for backstagers why not use it for the regular videos too? And be it just as a backup plan. YouTuber Louis Rossmann ( https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup ) does it and explains why he did it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLNGVr8OPM Also, if you’re IT guys are up for it, you could set up your own peertube instance (aka Server https://joinpeertube.org/en/ ) and have no further trouble. (I really like peertube because of it’s decentralized nature. Even if other servers go down, your video will stay accessible.) Hit me up with any… Read more »
Just for warren to know, Elmo also refers to himself as Elmo, not me or I. Warren equal to Elmo….not even close.
lol
@warzan the illuminate are watching you !
BEASTS OF WARRIN @warzan ???
same in Scotland @lloyd nothing more hazardous that a Celtic hen night.
I think at the moment people see the programs an think you need a degree in CAD to make recognizable things on the 3d printers which put’s many off taking the plunge.
Regarding the YouTube stuff, I think if you were to split content it’d make way more sense to do it via the Lloyd and Justing route where you split it into board games and warga…cough cough….I mean miniature games. As for the backend side of YouTube stuff though, having war or any of those terms in your metadata will flag your videos to YouTube, however if you’re still getting the green monetisation icon it’ll mean that YouTube isn’t actively punishing you. As for the paid ad-service side of things, it’s a different kettle of fish, you can’t even put an… Read more »
Really enjoying Points of View – it’s great to continue the weekend discussions!
@warzan point made! ? I feel like rulesets for generic fantasy work because we “allow” it to work. I feel like nowadays Tolkien’s work has aged (like wine or whisky) and become its own thing again. Since the movies and the GW product, it really has its own flavour. So while in the 80’s and 90’s generic fantasy drew heavily from Tolkien, these days I feel it has kind of gone away from it too. I also feel that your sci-fi examples are too narrow, though I get what you’re saying. (We all know that 40k has drawn from so… Read more »
So my first points of view VLOG. I like it, good review of many topics, think this is a must keep venue!
Thanks for checking out my comment. Good to feel part of the development discussions, and thanks for mentioning the curation team’s recent success too. On the question of why bother with the Battles database (with apologies to Field of Dreams) – if you build it, we will come. (Easy now). If the tool is there then there is a good chance the community will use it. Curiosity is a powerful force and this feels like a novel way of exploring and interacting as a community. I liked your ideas of the way the decline of the high street will manifest… Read more »
Sounds like a good idea for a Mega-Game! I was thinking about doing something like that for my Pegasus Bridge project. How to get commanders involved and the like. Su&Sd have some good videos on their mega-game experiences!
https://player.vimeo.com/video/123956861
On Snag-a-Normie week – My Dad is absolutely against board games – but he loves his cycling – so this Christmas I got him to play Lanterne Rouge – now he’s pestering me to paint up the little cyclists in his club colours and is already asking about the new expansion (which adds cobbles) – as the cobbled classics are his favourite races!!!
@warzan a question about your Youtube victimisation…
I get why the algorthym may be punishing you, but you’re not the only Wargames channel on Youtube (sorry!). How is it that they’re able to get seen by other Youtubers? Why aren’t all wargaming channels being punished equally?
I’m just concerned that you might put a lot of work into fixing a problem but it’s weird that it’s not affecting others.
yep as I’ve said in the vid it’s probably layers of things that have built up over time.
because it’s such a closed environment it’s hard to say, and coupled with how evasive they have always been when talking to them (at any level) I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them.
On this: I’d also like to know if it helps you guys more if I watch your YouTube content on YouTube, or on the site as I usually do?
no, really it’s just for reaching new folk.
Here is where the party is 🙂
Lindybeige has a lot of historical warfare content on his channel. I would actually be surprised if the lot of you weren’t subscribed already. But he uses the word war and other words belonging to the same semantic field a lot. Since, as far as I know, relative closeness within semantic fields is at the basis of all of googles language algorithms. I do not suppose it would be practical to subject a video’s voice transcript to the same kind of strict filters one would subject the video and channel titles to. However checking to for the regularity of the… Read more »