Gurn Of The Every Other Week: Say it Right!
April 30, 2015 by dracs
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…sorry, saw the first pic and thought this was an auto-erotic asphyxiation thing.
/\ Same here
@dignity does seem to have a big vein.
Must have missed that picture! Hurr, hurr, hurr, your said big vein!
The Ming/Flash Gordon battle continues? was the first thing I was thinking.
Auto-erotic implies masturbation – this is more like Sam-eo-rotic asphyxiation- pronounced like it’s spelled 😉
I just threw up a little. 😛
I saw the first pic and called the police
Sam you look quite scary with that sign
Something out of Vetinari’s book?
Ah glad someone picked up on that.
Oh Sam, too easy. Twice no doubt in a rant about grammar’ tsk tsk.
Quotes disappeared …. Conspiracy! “Pronounce things how …their… written down”….”the importance of …they’re…. phonology”
I spotted they’re, their, there used wrongly 4 times lol… Gotta be deliberate eh Sam…
Heh, nice Pratchett reference..
..and on topic, I know how you feel Demyse, nobody pronounces my name right either.
Not even me, but that’s another story..
maybe I should have just picked the name bob
Maybe bob02 isn’t taken?
@siygess and @demyse – I know the feeling re: screen names. The number of different ways “Oriskany” has been pronounced on various shows continues to crack me up (although of course the team’s gotten much better lately). I think my favorite from the “early” days was:
Ork-i-SHAN-ee. 😀
In the english language NOTHING sounds as it’s spelled to me.
“Cough” should be written “kof”… “Leicester” should be written “Lester”… For some reason, you also collectively decided to avoid pronouncing “R” and replace them all with some variation of “W”. And I’m not even talking about Samuel Pepys or the town of Godmanchester, and other such nonsense…
Ever heard of the surname StJohn?
Which is pronounced “Sinjen”!
Mental.
PS Was Justin ok??? 😉
My favorite is the rank “Lieutenant” which . . . on the east side of the pond suddenly gets an “f” if it?
“Where are you going, *left-tenant?” 🙂
If I remember rightly (and this is going waaaaaaaaaaaaaay back to my schools days) – towns/cities ending in “cester” were named by the Romans…..
(maybe a touch of irony in that one 🙂 )
Well, in both the English and the French, nothing is spelled remotely like what it sounds like to me.
You use far too many letters to write your words. both of you …with four M’s and a silent Q.
I know. When I was in China, the fun I had trying to explain that the spelling behind words like “tough”. English is delightfully messed up.
English is one of the hardest languages to learn. by using a mix of germanic, romantic, and every other type of language how could it be easy.
maybe we should all go to esperante or back to ancient greek.
Esperanto will never be a big language. Ever. The reason for that is that no one has a natural connection with it. Besides, we already have English as lingua franca. So many speak English as first language, secondary language or as a foreign language all over the world.
English is mind-numbingly easy to learn for everyone, unless you want to speak it really properly and correctly… but it’s SO very easy just to get by !
you do know you have just contradicted your self?
John looks like he is ready to find out how good his throwing arm is.
…ever been to Wales?
Thanks for the article, BoW Sam aka Bosum 😉
For some reason, people just write Soda when talking to me. I wonder what the reason is…
Love all the pictures. Sam your facial expressions are priceless. 🙂
Ah the joys of the English language, easy to learn hard to master. Now I have to agree with @elromanozo here. Not all words are phonetic in the English language. But then again English is a language that is ever changing and evolving and adapting. Plonk Harold (you know him with the arrow ) into 21 century England and he would not be able to understand the English we speak. Yet put William the Bastard into 21 century France and I believe he could make himself understood.
Loved that article, cheered me up after a glum day at work well done Sam!
Uh-oh, there are no disclaimers assuring us that no Justins were harmed in the making of this article. 😉
I call dibs on Justin’s Bolt Action army!
You’d actually want that?
Well I’d repaint it. ZING!
I’ve been trying to repaint his 40k for a year now. It resists.
I was gonna say, it actually looks like he’s getting choked for real. Complete with red skin, veins, etc. Was he holding his breath for the photo, or was this a candid photo and you were REALLY chokin’ him out? 😀
@oriskany – consequences of a bad diet
I agree, and great article. We briefly had a Gladiator-based game with the actual “classes” of gladiators in it . . . Hoplomachi, Myrmillo, Thraex, Dimachaerii, etc. One player kept b****ing about the use of these historical designators. “Just say a guy with a spear, a guy with two swords, etc” Like we were being pretentious. Sorry this isn’t D&D, dude, with “fighter” and “warrior” in it. This is a semi-historical game about a specific type of combat in a specific setting. Like Sam says: LEARN THE WORDS!! 😀 When I play your fantasy games I don’t call the elves… Read more »
$20 on Sam! Go for the eyes!
“one of the benefits of the English language, everything sounds exactly like it’s spelled”. I hate to brake it to you but this is a fundamentally incorrect statement and shows you haven’t studied the English language. Firstly language is fundamentally phonetically plastic, as a result of dialect, sociolect and or idiolect. For example some Scandinavian people say “i-ron”. Secondly English is not pronounced how it is spelled. The invented word ghoti, pronounced fish, is a commonly cited example of how English is, for want of a better phrase, “a troll”. So it really can be difficult and if you thought… Read more »
There will be mistakes in that kind of rant, I’m sorry but I’am dyslexic hence why this subject is close to my hart.
I may be wrong but I’m fairly certain he was being sarcastic. I am English and I have heard many times that English is a very difficult language to learn.
Although I also heard that Swedish is very difficult too.
really? thanks for pointing that out. However you wouldn’t stand next to a person in a wheelchair and say “I can’t stand people who can’t walk as fast as me”. I might have gone a bit over board but isn’t that also what this post is kind of about?
an the point about “i-ron” is that they aren’t saying it wrong, its dialect! people don’t speak in standard English, unless you a 1950’s new reader. People don’t understand fundamentally how languages work and then they make comments as if they know.
It make me so MAD!
You didn’t get the joke then eh? 😉
I’m sorry if the sarcasm didn’t come across, it can be difficult in text. For the record I am familiar with English linguistics. I have a Bachelor’s with First degree honours in English Literature and a Masters in Research of the Arts in English literature, as well as a TEFL certificate and two months experience teaching English to native Chinese speakers.
Very good @dracs but can you spell supercalafragalisticexpeallydocious?? Or speak proper English like the masterful Mr dick van dyke?
And the scandinavian i-ron example is not dialect, it is accent. Dialects are regional or social group-variants of native speakers spoken language (geordie, scouse, brummie, scottish). Accents are how foreign speakers mangle what for them is not their mother tongue. (Zat iz vai frensh peepol zpeak viz zush an outrrrraegous accent). Feche la vache!
Bollocks to that. Ghoti cannot be pronounced fish, because the sounds those letters make depends on context. -gh only becomes -f at the end of a word and then only after a “dark” vowel sound. ( eg laugh) -ti only becomes -sh in the middle of a word (eg nation).
It has to do with the historical roots of the words in question.
Let’s start with the biggest culprits: chat in MMO’s. Learn to spell first. Rouge is something that is put on your face to give it color, usually of a reddish tone. Rogue refers to a scoundrel, ne’erdowell or, in rpg parlance, a thief. So, on so many chat lines I’ve seen players refer to themselves as a rouge, so that must be the new Make-up class. But if you correct them, then you’re just a spelling nazi. And let’s not forget the LEET players that have to use numbers as letters in their toon names.
Let’s all of us just txt write, and see who Sam tries to strangle then. Lol, Omg, roflmao…..
Sam, I was mentally punching kittens whilst reading that! That was mean.
Although, I did cotton on by the point you said that “English is pronounced the way that it’s spelled.”
Say what you like about Welsh, it makes sense, phonetically…
Gave me a good laugh this morning. Then a second one by reading the comments. Although I’m not sure I got all the references as a non-native speaker. I feel for you Demyse, Warren butchers my name on air every time 😀 I’m German. We have no “th”. So Bothi sounds more like “Bow-Tee”. The h is silent! Don’t get me even started on German pronounciation. Or Germans (including myself) pronouncing English. Sometimes it’s just hilarious other times it makes me cry (again including myself pronouncing something like for example “Disciple” wrong for years). Love to all, especially Sam (and… Read more »
Maybe a xmas nudie calender? Cosplay and all that nonsense. Maybe base it on one of those disturbing Cliff Richard versions. A re-working of ‘wired for sound’ called ‘prosecuted for images’!
Having a bad day sam?
At last – Sam shows his War Face.
As for Justin’s face……I shudder to think what that can be used to depict…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7ubKHAZZhc