Cult Of Games XLBS: Why Doesn’t My Hobby Feel Like Art?
January 16, 2022 by brennon
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Interesting topic, will report back having watched the discussion.
Happy Sunday,
what a day to watch the Greatest movie ever made in Jesus’s House and to have a Lemon Party.
on art there is no greater expression of your inner thoughts then what you create, no matter what that is. You are able to put things out to the world and say this came from me look at it in awe. So much the better when its a Brass Knuckle Dual Taco holder Butt plug.
I remember this topic from a few years ago and my answer is still the same. Art must be intended to be art by it’s creator and must involve some objective skill. Painting a car in a factory takes skill but isn’t art, splashing paint on a canvas is intended to be art but takes no skill. I don’t intend to make Art when I paint minis so they aren’t Art. However when I painted Perturabo as a Display piece I did intend that to be a piece of Art and it took some skill so that mini is art.… Read more »
As for why we don’t feel it’s Art I supposed that’s just familiarity and over exposure. I mean driving a car is pretty insane yet no one really cares. Once giant lizards ruled the earth and now we drill way down into the earth, suck up their remains then deliberately explode them to make little steel rods go up and down which makes a literal ton of metal which we dug out of the ground go over 100km/h. That sounds pretty epic but we do it everyday without thinking. Our aeroplanes, they’re insane. We dig a bunch of metal from… Read more »
If I understand you correctly, art is art because you intend it to be art? So when a comic illustrator draws for a standard comic it isn’t art as he wouldn’t see it as creating art but as his normal day of work. Now if he would be drawing for a special exclusive edition where he sees it as creating art, it would be art because that is his intention? Even if the skill for both are the same but his passion will probably be higher on the later as it is more special and he might put some more… Read more »
On the art thing, I think I don’t consider myself an artist, because I think I’m stuck on it’s a game.
I’m not sure I’ve ever painted something that wasn’t for a game, and on that; I think this year I’ll aim to actually get something painted, that’s not for a game.
I like the bingo idea. So far this year I’ve painted 50+ 6mm figures 3 10mm Trolls and 3 28mm figures. Apart from the terrain part I’ve completed all of the rest of the challenges…Hurrah for me lol
If a pickled half of a cow can be called art, why can’t a kitbashed mini be art.
Because it usually lacks a poetic description and there are no pretentious wankers pretending it is.
Remember : a lot of things that we currently classify as ‘art’ were made because someone paid the artist money. Why do you think there are so many portraits ?
Rembrandt’s Nightwatch ?
A group portrait commissioned by the local watch led by captain Frans Banninck Cocq.
They even got their names listed at a later date.
( https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Nachtwacht )
Good to see you back again Warren and it is nice to see some type of hobby that is totally different. I didn’t understand a lot of it but found it very interesting. About the art subject, well for me it is very simple. Art is in the I of the beholder and it can take many forms because of this. If I see, hear some “art” of today I just think it is something that is wasted and loss of money and time that could have been spend on something more useful. I don’t see my minis as art… Read more »
Happy New Year and Happy Sunday! Interesting discussion that has got me thinking about why I don’t consider myself an Artist, when its obvious from everyone who sees my painted minis that I am that I am! Maybe not a great one but an artist none the less! Art is really an undefinable concept, after all if a pile of bricks or an unmade bed can be defined as art does this take anything away from the works of Constable, Picasso, Rembrandt etc? I think art is all down to being creative in some form or other and we all… Read more »
I think it can be hard to feel like this is art because we’ve grown up surrounded by people who don’t respect what we do and that gets echoed within us. You spend your whole life being told a thing by everyone you believe it and internalise it.
I don’t care if my miniatures, terrain, etc counts as art or not, but they definitely are outlets to channel my personal expression — most of the time. Creating a picture of how something should look like in my mind’s eye, the colours and how light and the environment would interact with it, and then producing it in physical form scratches that itch for me.
Yay it’s a OTT new year party.?
122 is that not Warren’s IQ ?!?
The art topic has got me thinking, and in replying I wanted to share what I consider as one of my most artistic pieces. But did not think I could share pictures in comments.
So I have created a post in the Green Room “Hobby as Art” for us to share our art and thoughts.
https://www.beastsofwar.com/forums/topic/hobby-as-art/#post-1709722
I have also shared my thoughts on this topic there
Happy Boris!
00:45 I feel you @brennon 😉
[Doing hobby stuff]
1:40:00 @warzan lost for words… what scary sight 😉
Nice little chat show tonight. Looking forward to see how @fcostin will decorate and set up her hobby room.
Not so much comments from me this day because I did hobby. Where is your fully painted “vital assets” set for Star Wars: Legion you peasants? Hmm? I’m going to varnish mine now and then they are done.
The thing is pdf force’s will be suited up in a uniform that can be supplyed in what is available in large numbers so they have no problems in forming up new units when required @brennon. just like force’s have rare vehicles because they are from/near a forgeworld planet that produces them.
I see the hobby more of a craft than an art form, and I see myself more of a craftsman than an artist. In this day and age everyone is an artist. Paint something with your rear-side and you are an artist. Try using your arse to build a diorama – I dare you!
Art Vs Craft is a philosophical debate that has been ongoing for a long time. Both involve creativity but there are subtle differences involving elements like expression, purpose and individualism. There’s also a lot of snobbery, much like the difference between proper literature and just fiction (whichever camp has Terry Pratchett in it is where I want to be). Sometimes the commercial aspects become a factor, but there’s many a gallery wall lined with paintings knocked out by a famous artist on commission! In fact back then you wouldn’t be called an artist, you were a sculptor or painter. The… Read more »
And remember Bob Ross and his happy little trees ? Maybe the distinction between ‘art’ and ‘craft’ is one that only is used to cheat the creator out of money. Art tends to cost more than craft, because the latter is simply the sum of materials and time spent whereas ‘art’ tends to get a bonus for being made by a ‘famous’ person. ie : if I let a monkey splatter some paint on a canvas and I’m honest about it then people won’t pay a single penny. When I tell them some bogus story and claim it is by… Read more »
Ooh sanding the head sounds painful ?
Happy Sunday, and welcome back @warzan . It’s nice to have codebusters back.
I’ve always thought of what we do as art, painting, modelling, building. Of course it’s art.
Yay another event I’m going to fall.
We all get the shakes as we get older @warzan was forever getting a jab in the ribs from mum asking if she’s wanting a half cuppa Lol
Is that a bong warzan hummmmm?
Warren playing the F1 the chain.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYHwH1Vb-c
It was for your work/business an you just autopilot through thing’s for a video seen?