Cult Of Games XLBS: What Faction To Choose? Trim The Wargaming Fat!
September 11, 2022 by fcostin
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It’s the XLBS SHow…………….Happy Sunday Fellow CoGs!
Congrats to the Golden Button Winners! Well DONE.
(I really enjoyed reading through the Building a Lambda-class Imperial Shuttle for Star Wars Legion stuff)
I want one of those for my Legion collection.
Question of this week’s show…….”Can there be too many Factions in a game”?
As far as factions in games goes………..I follow the ‘Rule of Cool’. I buy, pose, and paint what I think is cool and speaks to me. The more faction the better as far as I’m concerned.
Happy Sunday,
May your day be sunny and full of cheer. Also, may your your Telly show the Greatest movie ever made. @free may the wave of your ocean take you to safe shores. #BESTHOUSE
The factions-issue is an interesting one. I can say I’m fine with very few factions, as long as you get enough variety within each faction so that people can field thematically, visually and game-mechanically very different lists within each faction. I like that a lot more than game settings with a lot of factions but where each faction is very restricted regarding themes, visuals and game mechanics. Thanks for the spotlight! Designing the Jabba’s Palace Battleforce was/is really fun. I’ve recently thrown this first design draft into a larger brainpool on facebook, and it was received very well. What’s more… Read more »
@free – thx for your happiness – may the force allways be with you
Damn good show. Really, the thought on factions has been an issue and Malifaux sucked me in with the small number and its mix and match with Masters. It was explained to me at first to just go with what I enjoyed the look of. From there the knowledge of game mechanics just kinda slowly grew. I do find issue with the removal of the great mad scientist/union leader Ramos, but Wyrd did take the narrative step in explaining that away as he was jailed. I just happened to catch, when The Other Side dropped, that a certain character resembling… Read more »
If infantry lists can’t have a chance of beating armoured lists, pick a new set of rules as the others clearly unbalanced and shit…
“For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.” (Nelson Mandela). Thank you @FCostin for your encouragement, enthusiasm and constant positivity. You have opened our minds to the importance of gaming, social interaction, diversity and inclusivity. It will be a very difficult challenge to find your replacement for the BoW Weekender and XLBS crew. Good luck with the next chapter in your adventures… and do please finish the Moonstone project! ???????
For me, from a consumer perspective, the more the better. More choices, more variety, more dark corners for me to find a home in. That said, it needs to be easy to find a way in. Infinity is a good example actually. I love the variety and the depth and the lore and the aesthetic but I just keep bouncing off it. And weirdly I don’t like the idea of Code One as much. I want the big game but an easier access point.
Thinking a bit more about what I said, and the contradiction therein. I think strangely, it’s the very existence of N4 that puts me off Code One. You can’t offer me Coors Light when there’s a 10.5% Triple IPA next to it. If CB were a brand new company, and had just released Code One I’d be all over it. Maybe i’m just weird like that!
Hi XLBSers.
So Free is now err….Free
Justin’s space bun will be a Chelsea bun stuck to his beard.?
This discussion about what number factions is interesting. I play Mortem et Gloriam and there are 650 different army lists so the idea that 30 odd lists is too many is rediculous to me. This is not unique in the world of Historical Gaming.
Maybe it is a sci fi or fantasy thing that people can’t cope with more than a couple of factions.
I feel exactly the same. Let your imagination(and wallet! hahahahaa)run wild.
@fcostin good luck for your future, you have been such an asset to OTT. You will be missed.
Is that a model of Gerry when he lost a game he was winning @avernos ?
An army of shite monsters like from Dogma?
Gerrys fleet no strings attached.
Oh @Free thank you for providing a pretty face on the show, good luck with the future, and keep having fun with toy soldiers. I haven’t checked out if you have any projects on the go, but keep them up. Was there not a Moonstone table or something?
Space station zero, Alien breed the board game?
An Pascal is helping free move by wrecking the computer room to speed thing’s up ?
Happy Sunday. Goodbye @fcostin you’ll be missed. Hope to see you around on the site and in the Discord, and maybe the UHH? That was a nice surprise a golden button, and Ben got Adam Loper to have a look. Congratulations to the other two winners, both very well deserved. I don’t play a lot of games now with really any factions. Both Frostgrave and Stargrave don’t have a faction as all the players choose from the one list. When I did play more 40k and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, the games felt more comfortable and familiar with a smaller faction… Read more »
Sharpe V the French.
A good informative show guy’s.
Run free @Free have fun introducing people to the plastic crack.
I think as long as all the factions are reasonably balanced the more the merrier. One of the bonuses with Kings of War (from Oct 24th) and most other Mantic games are that the faction lists are all in the same book and on Easy Army. No having to shell out for a new book if you want to play a new army or see what a potential opponent’s army does. Another thing is not complicating things with multiple faction rules. I like a limited set of uncomplicated keywords that are in the main rules that the armies can use… Read more »
A game has too many factions when it’s parent company cannot either a)support them with adequate releases and updates or b)cannot find a design space to create a meaningfully unique game experience for them. This obviously means there is no arbitrary figure and is of course utterly irrelevant for historical games. It will surprise no-one to know that I follow Gerry’s philosophy of setting an army in aspic and playing it repeatedly to ‘master’ the nuances rather than endlessly tweaking and changing army lists when I am new to something. I have only played 40k 9th edition to a limited… Read more »
Happy Sunday (evening) everyone. With regards to faction lists, I’m with Gerry on this one. I try to build a balanced force that suits my play style and try to learn how to make the best of them. In “Real” war, you seldom get the “best” list, you deal with what you’re given. That said, for complete openness, I don’t play 40K and don’t buy any GW stuff.