New Warhammer Dwarf Irondrakes Sighted
February 11, 2014 by brennon
Games Workshop's Warhammer Dwarf releases certainly haven't finished yet. More leaks have spilled out onto the internet, this time from Warseer, showing off the Irondrakes which are the alternative kit for the new Ironbreakers.
As you can see they are built from the main body of the Ironbreakers, that's what I assume anyway, and instead get these rather awesome rune inscribed guns that spit fiery death down tunnels to burn through their enemies.
They look rather awesome and should be able to bring down most units. They have a rather good range, high strength AND armour piercing along with the myriad of other rules on offer. That's insane. Also quick to fire makes them quite the good reaction unit too.
A very cool unit to add to the Dwarf line-up. I have recently finished putting together the new Hammerers and I have to say they look a lot better 'in the flesh' than they do in the painted examples from GW.
What do you think?
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Was the design brief to make them look more like Space Marines?
Does feel like the design is a bit overboard. Gun stats look deadly as hell though.
“I have recently finished putting together the new Hammerers and I have to say they look a lot better ‘in the flesh’ than they do in the painted examples from GW.”
Glad to hear – I suspect this might be true of a few of the recent GW releases; I think the painting style they use (or possibly the photography?) makes them look very flat and washed out, especially with the Tyranids and the Dwarfs so far.
The paint jobs on the studio models makes them look very strange, as if they’ve been shot with Homer’s Make-Up Shotgun from The Simpsons.
The faces and the models as a whole are actually very well detailed and I think in an effort to make them look less like walking suits of armour they went overboard with the faces.
Will paint some up soon and see what you guys think of them with a more amateur paint job.
BoW Ben
All GW models look better in the flesh than the painted examples. GW need to fire all of their painters and either hire some who know what they’re doing or just show the unpainted models.
My bet is on hiring people who know what they’re doing .. atleast a dozen
From speaking with former studio painters, my understanding is they have to churn them out quite quickly. It’s also a very low paying job. If you’re really good you can make a lot more by going freelance. I would also assume that they’re produced under direction.
It’s the style that’s the problem, not the quality of the painting. Forgeworld churn out painted miniatures quickly two and look ten times better with their gritty style than GWs toy shop look.
Which is the direction thing I mentioned. Have had interesting discussions with former GW illustrators and fiction writers about the direction the company gives them to ensure everything is on message. I assume that extends to the studio painters.
You’re right of course. My quip about firing the painters wasn’t entirely serious. I do hate their style though. The reason you hear people saying GW minis look like toys is because they are painted like this. With a good paint job they can look amazing.
Squats anyone?
they look like warpath forgefathers especially with the blue paint job
How awesome would it be if Mantic sued GW?!?!?
Not awesome at all, because Mantic would most likely lose to GW legion of lawyers. All they’d have to do is point out how similar Mantic’s Forge Fathers are to the Squats, or the Corporation’s Marines are to the Imperial Guard, ect. It would be a long drawn out court war, and I don’t think Mantic has the money or the precedent to win.
Well even with those Legions of the Dammed they did not manage to take down Chapter House – but it would be a long and nasty fight, and if there is nothing the hobby do not need it is fights sucking the lifeblood out of two of the movers and shakers
The Chapterhouse case was in the USA. Totally different legal consideration in the UK. Mantic will of course not make an idiotic move of suing GW over something everyone just ultimately ripped off from folklore/Tolkien. Less suing in the gaming world would be nice. But these days, I’m surprised there isn’t a lot more of it. Every other new minis project is some Polish “company” (read guys in a shed somewhere in eastern Europe) with under employed sculptors knocking off some new random GW thing. Half the companies out there seem to be totally dependent on the GW proxy figure… Read more »
To have grounds to sue on these types of things is less to do with what the mini looks like as it is to how they’re marketed.
That’s probably intentionnal. They decided to produce new models that ressemble Mantic’s ones. They will be far more expensive but if they manage to get better sculpts they may, at least, deprive Mantic of some sales.
or maybe not deprive but hold on to a few
The helmet style makes them look like Mantic’s KoW dwarves. Not really my style, but that’s just personal preference.
GW imitating Mantic ? My my… the rise and fall of the empire…
Imagine Mantic going GW all over GW:s ass about stealing their Forge fathers
Accusing GW of imitating Mantic is a bit like saying Romeo and Juliet is a rip off of West Side Story.
Saying Romeo and Juliet is a rip off of West Side story could probably land you a job @ GW … It suits the company mentality perfectly
I like em’.
Including their weapons, that unit has got 12 different special rules applicable to it and their armour has three different saves!
Makes for an nice quick flowing game does it not ?
It’s certainly not so complicated that it’d stretch our mental faculties to play it, but it makes for a very clunky and uneven system. Piling on rules can give the illusion of depth and complexity to a game, but what they tend to do instead is make it unbalanced and exploitable.
Listen we all know that GW “borrowed” designs before!
Yeah they totally ripped off the Zerg according to the internet as well.
Oh, the number of times I have read/heard that one. Still, it can get even better. There was one chap who was absolutely convinced that Warhammer was a knock off of World of Warcraft. Much hilarity ensued.
There’s some imagination running wild in these here comments. Neither GW nor Mantic would have a legal leg to stand on if they tried to sue the other over how they represent their dwarfs. The likelihood that GW would intentionally design their dwarfs to look like Mantic dwarfs is very slim.
@redben awww don’t spoil people’s chance to have a pop at GW. They may have to wait a whole week before they can slag off GW if they can’t do it in this thread that is unless someone starts another GW bashing thread on the forums in the meantime.
GW are bashing themselves better than anyone else, not a post in the world who can change that, rest assured
could it be that theres a heavy dose of sarcasm involved?
I honestly don’t think any similarities are pronounced enough to wory about, and like redben I think the notion that GW went out of its way to imitate Mantic’s Forgefather or KoW Dwarf sculpts is rather unlikely. They already have so much established Dwarf imagery of their own from the last 30 years that it strikes me as somewhat of a waste of time on their part. Still, the models do look like they might be usuable as proxies in KoW and Warpath with a little conversion work, so isn’t that a good thing for Mantic players? It is not… Read more »
They look excellent as models in and of themselves but completely out of step with the Warhammer world. Almost 40Kish.
And I swear the dwarfs now have realistic legs but now that just confuses me. It would make sense if the entire Dwarf range was getting replaced….
Honestly I can’t help but think that’s the direction they’re going. I’m expecting a Warriors kit to be revealed any day now.
Irondrakes…hmmm…Warhammer style Drakkarim – awesome! Reads ensuing debate below… Gets coat… In all seriousness these look cool to me, love the more bad-ass direction GWs Dwarves seem to be going in with parts of these releases (well what I’ve seen, can’t buy a copy of WD weekly anywhere near me now for some reason – but I digress!). Now I’m a dyed in the wool Mantic Dwarf man myself (just like the heads and scale better – just look harder to me and not like beardy halflings, and they have pit bulls!) but would love to put a unit of… Read more »
What’s going on with their beards? They are painted what looks like a hair colour, but they aren’t sculpted to look anything like hair? Is it supposed to be armour, does GW Dwarven beard hair grow as flat plates nowadays? Even worse than the lampreys that normally replace long hair/beards on plastic models.