Mantic Games Make Waves On Pannithor With Armada
September 16, 2020 by avernos
Mantic Games have announced a new game coming to retail in November, Armada. Based on Pannithor, the setting for their fantasy games, Armada will allow people to take to the waves in a game of epic naval battles. A starter set is coming to start people off with starting fleets for two of the races from Kings of War, the Basileans and the Orcs.
Armada // Mantic Games
This one has come a little out of left field with Mantic keeping it under wraps until hints started to appear in the Primovantor Pilgrim, a news sheet that appears on their page on occasion with informative news stories like the outrageous taxation of turnips that haven't been blessed by the Hegemony, It's generally filled with easter eggs if people can find them about upcoming plans and recently some ships have appeared in them for fleets beyond the starter set. In a press release for the game Ronnie had this to say
“A fantasy naval game has been one of the number one requests from the Kings of War community over recent years,” said Mantic Games, CEO, Ronnie Renton. “The fact that we can release straight to retail with such a comprehensive range demonstrates the continued strength and growth of Kings of War.”
It certainly expands the world with dungeon crawler, warband skirmish, and massed battle games already on the market the venture into naval warfare makes a lot of sense for Mantic and Kings of War. The evolving nature of Pannithor as a world through the campaigns Mantic runs gives scope for large linked campaigns for players to get involved in and effect. With the map expanding in 3rd edition to show a much greater place to explore now the ability to do it via nations navies means Mantic can introduce new fleets and races if they wish down the line. I do like combined ongoing campaigns in games and another string to the bow with Armada is a great thing.
Armada 2 Player Starter Set // Mantic Games
Armada Game Play
The game is based on Warlord Games Black Seas, Armada takes historical battles and gives them an epic fantasy twist. I'm already a fan of Black Seas and you can see some Let's Plays if you want an idea of how the game plays out. Players command a fleet of six to nine ships to capture terrifying sea monsters, unleash devastating broadsides against their opponent, upgrade their ships with arcane magic and execute daring boarding actions.
How magic and sea monsters work within the rules will be the main focus for me when I get my hands on the game. There are already layers of rules within the Black Seas system depending on how detailed you want it to be so adding magic and monsters to it won't be an issue as far as the game mechanics go, but in the past some fantasy naval games these things could become very unbalanced. Given how Mantic's games keep focus on balance I can't imagine they will allow it to be game-breaking but it will be worth watching out for.
Armada Basileans // Mantic Games
Fleets
From the initial launch, players can take to the seas of Pannithor as one of four exciting factions – starting with the brave Basileans and marauding orcs, then following shortly after with the stoic dwarfs and wicked Empire of Dust. The fleets for Armada are all resin miniatures and as you can see from the photos they are up to Mantic's fantastic quality. Every resin piece I've got my hands on has been crisply detailed and beautifully cast so they should be a dream to get on the tabletop and best of all, No Rigging! I for one am thankful for not having to spin string around the masts and jibs and whatever other boat things they have. Also check out that spinning Orc Marauder windmill double brass fist, I don't want that coming up on me!
Armada Orcs // Mantic Games
Overall I'm excited to see this next step for Mantic, working with Warlord to get a system that works beautifully and adapting it for Fantasy is a stroke of genius, especially if you already know the rules you're not having to learn another naval game. It will be interesting to see the uptake in the community for this and where the game goes in the future. The make or break for me will be the Dwarven and Empire of Dust fleets, the teasers we've seen are steam-powered ironclad for the short fellows and I imagine the undead are magical to an extent. Having sailing ships be at the mercy of fleets that aren't behoving to the power of the wind was a major flaw with that other fantasy fleet game, but I have fair in Mantic to not fall into that trap.
The game will be available from Mantic Games and your FLGS from November and more information will be coming over the coming weeks which you can follow on the Mantic blog
Mantica O'War, there I've done it, happy now?
"No Rigging! I for one am thankful for not having to spin string around the masts and jibs and whatever other boat things they have. "
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i am actually looking forward to this i like black seas and have been hankering for a Man o War replacement
ditto
M’orcs O’ WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
Was a fan of man o war will be interested to see where this goes. So far it looks great ?
Kinda disappointed it’s just Warlord’s Black Seas with a fantasy coat of paint. I like Mantic, but I’m going to need to see some rules & some price tags before I commit to this one. Naval gaming lately is getting ridiculously expensive.
well you can see most of the rules in the Let’s Play linked above 😉
In the FAQ Mantic released today they mentioned that they have “streamlined certain elements” of Black Seas, which is what has me curious. Gonna need a Let’s Play of this Armada game, stat! 😉
already tickling Rob and Matt for the opportunity to do just that
Played Black Seas once, but really enjoyed it so excited about this! The rules are as complex as you want them and the games plays quickly. As long as they add flyers with Dragons and airships later!
Seems interesting and ships look really nice.
I loved Man O War back in the day so I will be all over this. It took a while for Mantic to release something I’m hyped for but it has finally happened.
This looks awesome.
Will be keeping an eye on this one, for sure. Pre-orders this Friday. So will see what the prices will be like then. Im not usually a fan of the expanse of large blocky pieces of resin, and these ship are rather large. But if the price is right, It will be something new for my group to try.
Large? Assuming the dice are 1cm jobbies the biggest boat is 30mm long. Barely a thumb pad!
That’s an A0 size play mat, so I think they’ll be significantly bigger than that. 6-10cm maybe?
https://www.manticgames.com/news/armada-your-questions-answered/
There’s a picture of two ships next to kings of war minis, on 20mm bases, at the link.
So it appears the ships are 60 to 80mm long and about 20mm wide. With 9 ships in each fleet that might make things a bit crowded on a 4 x 4 table.
Good. Empty sea is boring. I think this is going to be a game of close range combat, not long range artillery. If you think it’s too crowded, sink more of the enemy to free up some space. 😀
I’m thinking this will be closer to ship combat in classical times (ramming by orcs and boarding by ogres, with greek fire being replaced by magic) than Age of Sail (bombardment). So “crowded” will fit well with that aesthetic.
Mantic is selling a pack of acrylic bases, the sizes are…
2 x Tiny (30mm x 30mm)
3 x Small (50mm x 30mm)
3 x Medium (70mm x 30mm)
2 x Large (100mm x 30mm)
1 x Extra Large (125mm x 30mm)
So that gives an idea on ship sizes.
It is a must buy for me. I like Black Seas, I love the ship design and I´m a Mantic fan.
Sold!!! Looks great so far, love to see what some of the other races fleets look like
looks to be a great game an the ships look fabulous.
Mantic O’ War!
I’ll be interested to see the rules for the 2 shown orc ships: how the maw of flame works and attacks and how the spinning fist does as well. They show the dwarf ships on the web page, but I wonder what the Empire of Dust ships look like.
Will there be rigging guides available?
LOL
They already said, No Rigging with these kits.
This has me so excited. I love on how the video mantic put up they refer to Dreadfleet, Man O War… and another Naval wargame i cant remember the name of.
I hope this is inexpensive compared to other boxed sets: warhammer underworlds starter set priced. It would be fun and a nice change of pace to play
it looks like a full fleet will set you back 90£ and you will have a couple of options ship wise.
I must admit I’m tempted to do rigging. But no ratlines though. Ratlines are from hell!
Loving this. Sounding pretty popular with my club. A few of us will be investing over Christmas I would imagine!
Black Seas is a system I have played a lot and enjoy (except the ratlines. I hate ratlines). A Mantic, fantasy, take on it is something to be celebrated!
Can’t yet make my mind up if this is the best surprise of 2020 or just awful :). It does look fun, but the models are very Marmite.
????? Marmite ???? Does that mean bad ????? (because That’s what marmite is …. I don’t know how you English types eat it … I mean it’s not vegemite (i.e. the nectar of the gods) If so it is perhaps a little unfai as there in nice detail in the ships with out being over the top and they should be easy to paint up. I am looking forward to this
I’m due to receive the ships on Friday so I shall let you know 😉