Do you have to be in charge range to be able to declare a charge? (I don’t have the rules yet)

I can see how that could be very frustrating.

GW need to be careful they don’t ‘over-engineer’ the rules too much. Complexity and extra tactical options are fine, but I can see how the game could all become rather hard-going if situations like this occurred regularly.

I think I’d rather see all the units on the table at least allowed to hold their ground a little bit, even if they end up being routed after combat. Not sure how much fun it would be seeing units scarper off the table without getting anywhere near the opposition.

Yeah I also think that Darrel is definitely right on this. Actually I used this tactic about a week ago with my Dark Elves against my friends Orcs. The Manticore did not kill anything throughout the game but I did ‘push’ two massive units with this offboard. It is almost guaranteed with Doom and Darkness ;-). DaD + Terorr was great in 7ed, but you had to get 6 inches from that unit, now you can do it safely from 22inch distance (and as you can premeasure anything, it is not hard to get exactly wher you want) kane: you… Read more »

This is more of a Bree kind of cheese, it can however be really annoying if you have a really solid and well equipped unit scared of the board on the first turn. I think that this terror rule for fantasy needs to be addressed a bit. However Darrell is right when it comes to the question that was asked, if they re-rolll for failed panic tests then i would think that it would be for all panic tests.

Sort of agree with you Caldors. Some troops would leg it at the first sign of a dragon running at you. Okay I am going to be honest, I would! lol But the beastie in Darrel’s example has an equal chance of getting snakes eyes and tripping over its tail before getting up to speed for a charge! If a monster is further away there is less chance of turning tail immediately imho Maybe there needs to be modifiers for long range charges +1 or 2 to leadership if the big beasties are at the maximum extend of their charge… Read more »

as a skaven player am suddenly scared

This type of thing, and the rage charge thing in 40k are really pointless to worry about, in friendly games, its funny, have a few laughs at the dragon(or similar) doing the fake out charge thing we all did to our little brothers(unless you were the little brother and you still haven’t forgiven/murdered your elder brother for it yet). In tourneys, it’ll either be clarified in the house rule pack or its the exact kind of thing you want to know before you enter, so you can use it and/or guard against it. Narratively, it works fine, the dragon doesn’t… Read more »

Srsly… this aint fun….its way to cheezy… i would say that a creature need to make a sucsessfull charge in order to cause terror to the unit its charging. i mean, a dragon or big satanic demon thing is scary when running up towards you but when its suddenly stops and catch its breath or just get distracted (cous thats what a failed charge is am i right?) its goes from being Hellofalot scary to hellofalot pathetic. i will modify the rule in all my games and will not accept if my oponent want to exploit that rule. cous that… Read more »

In my opinion, psychology and panic tests play a huge role in WHFB and makes the game rather dynamic. While it does suck that you have to test panic when being charged, there are plenty of other ways to combat a measly leadership test (well, other than being a bad roller). The game is all about having that edge over your opponent, and/or using strategy to combat your opponents edge. While yea… it does suck that you can flee off a board, kinda like cazboab said, hey, its a game among friends. It would be a point of humor rather… Read more »

Doesn’t this also mean (if successful) you could chase two units of the board in one turn? e.g you declare a charge they fail and run away so you then get to delcare another change on another unit? You could easily be within range of two horde sized units at the end of turn one and if they both turned tail and fled that’s it game over!

One thing about Ogres, Darrell…Ogres cause Fear. Against models that cause Terror, they downgrade Terror to just Fear, and the Fear-causers lose it.

So you don’t ever have to worry about running away from Terror-causers, when you cause Fear.

Psychology was one of the most effective ways of running down enemy units in 7th edition, it is not nearly as good as it used to be. However we now have another reason to take monsters, STOMP!

I don’t find this cheesey to be honest. As I;ve said above, if people try to exploit it, then they are usually in a desperate situation. Most things that cause Terror can take on most thigns and do some hurt. It’s also wise to go for units that have low leadership to negate them and not cheesey. What I do find odd is that the rulebook says that they take a Panic test. I admit that being terrified can lead to panicking, but for rules it seems odd. The rules do allow Chaos guys to re-roll it (as it’s a… Read more »

Here’s a real life experiment that illustrates the logic of the rule. 1. Find a payphone (if you can — not too many around these days). 2. Stand in front of it. Lift the receiver off the catch and pull it taut towards yourself at face level. Position yourself so your face is just an inch or so away from its maximum distance. 3. Have a friend take the phone and throw it hard towards your face. The instinct of protecting yourself will typically always override knowledge that in most instances nothing will happen to you, and that’s assuming that… Read more »

i see a lot of good arguments and consider that the rule acrually makes sense… in terms of realism… in terms of gameplay on the other hand… its terrible… it makes some factions completley worthless since the dragon may stay far away from the action, declaraing charges at units half the board away and make em run of the table… i dont like it at all…