Weekender XLBS: Can Miniatures Ruin A Game?
November 25, 2018 by dignity
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Come on first surely!
Happy Sunday! man, that thumbnail is disturbing.
yeah, gonna need brain bleech … and lots of it. 😉
Is that what they meant by martian mysteries?
Well, that ‘miniature’ featured in the cover image would certainly ruin any game that I might be about to play.
Happy Sunday!
Regarding Oumuamua – watch this video from Harald Lesch, a well know professor from germany that does a lot of scientific tv shows. English subtitles seem to work fine if your German is not good enough:). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ei2WxeujUSs
Happy Sunday!
Happy Sunday!
This is the second week in a row for a thumbnail that will scar us for life….
I can think of a game that doesn’t need minis to play it but has minis in the box. ‘Big Trouble in Little China the board game’. It could easily be played without minis, using cardboard chits and not even standees. But the game elevates by having them in there to use. I own this game and can tell you that I would not have bought it if there were no minis in the box. I’m a table top miniatures gamer first and for most. My interest was in getting the minis for my ‘Big Trouble in Little China RPG’… Read more »
Another very disturbing front page for an early morning Happy Sunday start.
Great show guys. I think it’s important to define something quickly. A miniature can be a token but a token cannot be a miniature. If I have a token representing a 6 Pounder and I replace it with a mini of a 6 Pounder I haven’t added a miniature I’ve substituted a token for a more aesthetically pleasing token. If I have a 6 Pounder Miniature in a miniature game with true line of sight and I replace it with a token then I’ve changed the game. @dignity when you talk about being able to recognise a Panzer IV as… Read more »
Hold up, @elessar2590 – you’ve been playing Panzer Leader 1940?
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
As long as you stay away from Scenario 30. It’s literally a tongue-in-cheek, inside joke.
It still Saturday here in Vancouver 😛
The Preview GIF reminded me of this classic bit of Simpsons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2bvmjZqCKA
Dang. That’s one disturbing thumbnail!
Happy Sunday!
Yes! I’ve seen more of a tendency on KS especially to add minis for the sake of it when cardboard tokens – or even simply fancy plastic 3d tokens – would be enough. Sometimes they offer minis as an option, but I’ve tracked a couple of KS projects where stretch goals became mainly about the minis and the underlying core game doesn’t get the love maybe it deserves.
Happy Sunday,
miniatures are nice to have for the most games, as mentioned even 40k doesn´t need miniatures to be played. Most of the Boardgames like Joan of Arc or Kingdom Death Monster don´t need miniatures. But honestly, we do this hobby because of those nice sculpts.
KD:M is an interesting example: – From a game mechanics perspective they are unnecessary; even during the showdown you’re on an orthogonal grid moving tokens. – From an immersion perspective having impressive looking minis helps; but the survivors are not wysiwyg and in the early days before I’d hobbied it up you could run it through several lantern years with the original survivors and sometimes just the Monster’s base as a token. Shows that the minis are just fancy tokens. – from a commercial business model and the core purpose and values of Adam Poots the minis are essential. Their… Read more »
In contrast we have Battle Ravens by Plastic Soldier Company. If anyone had the capability to add unnecessary minis to a game on KS it’s them. The only plastic I can see are the standee-stands. Good on them! Minis wouldn’t add anything to the boxed game and if anything adding them would have diverted resources away from their core purpose – creating plastic models for table-top wargaming although I bet someone has suggested it, both internally during their ideation stage and externally from a backer. If I back it I might try subbing in some Saga minis, but they wouldn’t… Read more »
Indeed. The miniatures in Kingdom Death : Monster are the ’boutique’ part of the tagline ’boutique nightmare horror’.
Arrgh! Gratuitous otter shot on the thumbnail. Too early in the morning for that
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-46310975/sci-fi-plane-with-no-moving-parts-flies-successfully
future is getting closer.
Justin for Parliament?. Well if Sammy Wilson can get elected anyone can
Morning folks
I’m mainly a Wargamer so I prefer a good miniature over a token even if it’s only a basic one,
And warren, I remember reading a few years ago that for the most part seti wasn’t as concerned about radio waves, they would be ecstatic to find them but the civilisation in question would either be dead…. as radio waves travel so slowly or have moved to some other form of communication past digital. Though it’s early and I could be wrong …
Happy Sunday 🙂
The front page guys……………..Why!!??
My eyes are burning, where’s my snippers?!
I like quite a few of CMON’s games, but I find they tend to be a bit samey. The quality of the components is incredible, but I’d actually prefer the company to focus more on developing long-term playability. People mainly seem to back their Kickstarters for the insane number of minis they throw in, but for the games themselves the minis are little more than glorified tokens (something I never thought I’d say). In Rising Sun I thought some of the larger models were unnecessarily large. Great to look at, but completely impractical
I think this is a good example. In some places you get the feeling that the game is a means tto mmarket a big box of sculpts, but the longevity of the game itself is not a design priority.
Disturbing!
Happy Sunday! Another interesting discussion. I think it’s pretty clear to me that the most elegant gaming mechanics don’t need miniatures. I can’t think of a Spiel de Jahres winner that was a miniatures game. BUT I’ve never seen a Spiel de Jahres winner that I actually wanted to play. In fact just looking at them makes my blood run cold. Gaming for me is making cinematic moments with my collection of miniatures. As long as the game is cinematic, and the rules are thematic, I’m more than happy. 40k 8th Ed is now pretty simple. Star Wars Legion is… Read more »
Completely agree with you points. I have come to realise that i have no interest in any game that doesn’t have a miniatures in it, as they are an abstraction too far.
In my head (which i am well aware is not representative of society in general) I can’t understand why you would settle for a pile of cardboard chits when you could have cool minis to collect, paint, daydream over instead!
The US Navy has huge r&d departments and are massively funded.The Navy developed TOR for use by US spies, obviously TOR is no use if only the US secret service uses it, so they opened it up to the public, and the deep web was born.
That picture is so wrong Guy’s Sharon Stone dreams will be Nightmare’s now.!
The moving picture’s were worse ! One mind wipe please Doctor.
Arrgh! My eyes!!