Weekender XLBS: LARP Wizardry, Armouring + Finding Forums & Places On BoW 2.0
April 22, 2018 by dignity
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Sorry to start with a negative but categorising GameFor as a Tinder or Grinder for gamers isn’t doing the service justice.
In Adam’s videos he has said that he didn’t want to create that at all.
He and his coworkers wanted to create safe ways for people to find other gamers and they determined at that would be at places (basically stores and clubs) and events.
That’s fine how would you categorise it? I’m certainly not dissing the service or product I’m just stating that (currently) I’m not sure about connections between individual gamers 🙂
Adam described that part of the app as being like the noticeboard at the back of the store that lets players find each other – someone leaves a message like “I’m looking for people to play DnD” and has a contact phone number. It allows for in app messaging.
Full disclosure: I haven’t used the GameFor app, hence my reliance on what Adam has said.
I’m not a big app user – and with the Cambridge Analytica scandal I’m not likely to become one anytime soon – so trying to categorise it would be hard.
Then hopefully you can understand why my attempt to categorise it placed it along side apps that while not be gaming related are in effect about connecting consenting individuals to one another for some shared purpose. We actually explored this internally about 3 years ago but we opted out of the direct connections model. Instead we added a stores and clubs module to the warconsole platform to see if it might generate usage. Based on watching the results of that ‘places’ carved a space out for itself in the next iteration of Bow 🙂 So my only reason for raising… Read more »
To me the connotation for the apps you mentioned, from mentions on TV/movies at least, is a bit sleazy(???)….. “consenting” … I haven’t used them, so I don’t know if this is true, and I suppose different people can use them for different things. I find the problem with classifying things it is quick, simple and hard to disassociate from once made….. It’s interesting, I’m finding the world more and more complex every day. And people are trying to describe it in fewer and fewer words. The more I’m hearing about GameFor, the more I think are effectively competing with… Read more »
There should have been a “nudge nudge wink wink” after “consenting” but the site removed it, probably because I used the greater than and less than signs.
I just went back and had a look at the comments in question. I have Adams app and subscribe too and enjoy his content. The comment was made about apps that connect people for different reasons. A simple comment made about a not very important comparison made complex for the sake of making a simple issue complex.
The world is not a complex place until you wish it to be.
@hobbyhub Complementing not competing directly, as @warzan says we dont have an interest in the inter person connecting, nor would we want to get into that for the foreseeable future, to many possibilities that lead to VERY dark places if misused/abused.. As for club and store finding its a way of dragging over what we already do on warconsole, which is good as it allows us to make clubs and stores and wider community stuff more integrated into the site, and possible to have members join the clubs and stores on the site, which paves the way for future developments… Read more »
So its just like a WLTM section of a newspaper…
Happy Sunday!
Looking at your ‘account type’ field in the user profile you appear to be limiting it to one type per account. Does that mean that a store owner or club secretary might need 2 accounts, one for their place role and another for the gamer in them? It would be better if they could manage all aspects through the one account by allowing multiple types.
Good question
It’s currently ‘what best describes you?’ As we may make the browsing experience quite focused on those subsets access to additional tools or news etc
It’s still very work in progress though so we may change that. Thanks for raising that as it’s been on my mind recently as well 🙂
Think ‘role pattern’, where stuff is linked to a person’s role rather than direct to the person.
I’ve come across role based security discussions before in software in my perilous work life as a programmer/analyst. In those chats it has basically come down to KISS. If BoW did go down the role road then I think everyone would have their role displayed for all of their postings – otherwise it would single out those that have multiple roles. There is also the case where someone posts under the wrong role, then wants the role changed. Stores will be used to having multiple logins if they use Facebook. Clubs are interesting as a committee can change on a… Read more »
Eventually, post 1.5/2.0 what ever we are calling it, Oauth and claims based AAA are on the roadmap too, not just for the conveince of facebook/google/twitter login to the site but also for a much better role mechanism than currently we have, its doable though, although i doubt it would be done as suggested for a variety of reasons There would be no reason to post role levels for the same reason we dont add backstager to peoples postings. As for clubs organisational heirachy that wont be moddelled just some basic contact data and it would be up to the… Read more »
Not all suggesting that BoW model a club hierarchy (shiver).
Nope just thinking of the case were something happens to the person that is in charge of the club login and the committee now wants the password changed so someone else can take over.
It is a simple password change, but could involve BoW staff in some uncomfortable stuff outside of the site management aspects.
@hobbyhub that would mostly likely be resolved by a simple support request to change the owner, not expecting that to be a regular occurance though.
And on a positive note, great minds think alike.
I’ve been watching with interest the Dice Tower History YouTube vids that Tom Vasel has been putting out recently.
The series isn’t finished yet – he’s up to the year 2012 in episode 9 – and he has a similar philosophy to Warren. Tom wanted to build a place for people to create content so that The Dice Tower wasn’t just about him.
It’s interesting to see how a number of different groups have similar goals but quite different approaches in achieving them; what different parts of the internet they use.
“Always be nice to elderly NPCs you encounter on lonely roads” is a principle I try to play to. You’ll often get something if you just kill them -often a curse – but more often than not you end up with a boost or an epic item. Don’t know if that holds for Gloomhaven?
He can sing.
He can lol
He didn’t warm up his voice and is now cringing as he hears this.
Just out of interest what episode of GoT were you in on the show. @dracs
Season 5, attack on hardhome
Thanks will be looking for you the next time its on.
All that choir practice and karaoke while over in Japan paid off. 🙂
Oh gods. I can SEE Sam & Justin as Ed & Al from FMA and now can’t unsee it >_<
(And on a related note, I highly recommend this seasons Full Metal Panic! Invisible Victory, Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These, and the latest season of the superb My Hero Acadamia)
I’m really excited for BoW 2.0. Can’t wait for it to launch. I’m gonna get you sooo many lizards!
@warzan wow…how long did it take you for that penny to drop…
2.0 is looking great! I think limiting data creation to backstagers (at least initially) is a great move. Whilst I don’t really have the time (at present) to be a Curator, I do feel heavily invested in ensuring the integrity of the community, and I think the success of the new platform is going to heavily rely on the accuracy of the initial data population, and the spirit in which it is established. So I will certainly commit to doing my bit to make that happen. The name change is also a good thought. I love BoW and the BoW… Read more »
I agree with you on the use of the word “war”.
Some people will not go near a wargame though they will happily play a board game.
Some people will only play a wargame if it is in a non-historical setting.
Happy Sunday,
Is it me or did @warzan just describe the start of the Umbrella Corperation?
Or Starnet? The begining of the end……….i hope not lol.
All the best and i hope the stress is worth it.
Love hearing about BoW 2.0 and glad that you guys are really looking to the future rather than standing still.
And no worries about the launch having hiccups etc., the backstagers are here to stay 😉
Happy Sunday! Another nice update on 2.0 and good to hear you guys take privacy seriously.
@warzan If you have open questions regarding GDPR, I’d be happy to help. I’ve had to deal with it at work a lot and I’m just about to finish my CIPP/E certification, so I should know a thing or two 🙂
@gillotine Welcome to my world… 😀
I have been living a breathing GDPR for the last few years, and dealing with Data Protection for about 15 years before that… I have only met a couple of people who are in the field that are also gamers I do wonder how many others are out there…:-)
@Guillotine even bloody phone…lol
@commodorerob i suspect the ability to conduct that query would fall foul of DPA/GDPR quite a hefty overlap of personal vs professional data 😉
@nakchak it all depends who is asking and in what capacity and why:-)
@commodorerob “i want an effing game, because my friends are dicks who dont want to play 😉 :P” would be a career highlight to read on a risk assessment/permissions request
Happy Sunday! Thanks for that great show guys. On the painting level I would agree with Justin a tiny bit. There are some projects that are really dear to me since years. The problem being that I’d never start them because I would be too nervous to stuff it. But a fact is, that if you don’t do anything. Nothing gets done. And it’s not by not painting that you will be better. So all in all I think that a project that you want to do at a certain level is a bit like a running race. You do… Read more »
Omnia mutantur, nihil interit 🙂
IMHO, the location markers should all be on the map and use different icons for the different categories. For example, a store icon for game shops (or dice). A monument for historical places (we have a WWII vehicle museum here in CT). The unverified locations should be marked grey and verified ones as green. You should also have the ability for members to mark when a location gets closed or goes out of business. When entering information there should be option to enter a URL and picture.
All good ideas for sure. Icons are tricky as a location can be more than one thing. And photos we are having a good think about. 🙂
@warzan I feel your GDPR pain, I have an entire team focused on this for the past 6 months representing a huge amount of global e-commerce, hopefully, you guys don’t get to much with PCI as well.
Great weekender as always, have a great week everyone.
Happy Sunday fellow backstagers.
BoW 2.0 is sounding better every week. I’m really looking forward to it, and proud to be supporting it in my small way, because I think it has huge potential.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Another great show. I like the new ideas for the forum posts, the new options for text formatting look great. Also, I’m very happy to hear that karma scores will be migrating over, and very excited to hear about additional ways to earn “xp” and different metrics to reflect member participation (projects, articles, etc). Small question, will we be able to upload .pdfs, or just the usual jpeg, etc. I realize .pdfs miiiight bring a slight problem with copyright issues (people posting materials they don’t own etc). But it would be great for extended battle reports, desktop publishers like myself,… Read more »
Pdfs are a definitely able to be put into projects I believe
Well have a look into forum posts when we can mate 🙂
I would probably post a link to a scribd hosted copy of the pdf, its their DCMA notice then 😉
Great show guys on the BOW II what about a gamers app for Google maps showing all the clubs/shops that have regestured within the bow site
In the area your checking/stay in. was the rest of the post.
Happy Sunday..I am looking forward to 2.0 sounds exciting time for this site can’t wait.