Weekender: Cynical Cash Grabs & Charlemagne
November 9, 2019 by crew
Come and join us for a chat about more news from the tabletop world this week in The Weekender.
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News
We're now moving on to explore some of the news from this week...
- Chaos Beasts & Slaves To Darkness - See what you make of these Age Of Sigmar offerings
- Church Or Tank - Some new vehicles and expansion content is arriving for Warhammer 40,000
- Barnes & Nobles Releases - What are your thoughts, cynical cash grab or a nice option for newcomers?
- Germanic Hordes - A band of angry Germanic warriors are battling against Rome in SPQR
- Halfling Militia - Build yourself a new Fantasy army thanks to Wargames Atlantic
- Dungeon & Town Terrain - GameStart Edizioni look at some new 3D elements for your roleplaying games
- Battle Kiwi Black Seas - Hit the high seas with some new accessories from Battle Kiwi
- Small World Of Warcraft - Could you tempt some friends to the tabletop with this?
- Vox Machina & Amazon - Will you be watching this series when it hits Amazon Prime?
With some heated debate today we'd be interested to hear what side of the coin you come down on.
Kickstarter
As well as the news we're also looking at some Kickstarter projects which have caught our eye.
- Deadlands: Lost Colony - Head into space for some Wild West fun in Savage Worlds
- Vaesen: Nordic Horror Roleplaying - Will you head out into the dark woods in search of monsters?
Are you tempted to try out each of these roleplaying games from Pinnacle and Fria Ligan?
Have a great weekend!
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Lovely! Just in time for afternoon tea!
GW have gone too far with their price increase. We are looking at a swap to Infinity.
Great Show. I like minis scale to be kept the same, it just looks jarring to see new things next to old things. 40K got it right by making Primaris a whole new thing not just a replacement. @warzan it’s $490 for us in Australia. That works out to be 265 Pounds. That’s a good Roman theory and I’ve seen the same video but it’s flawed. The Roman Emperors were not always sons of Emperor’s a lot of them were just Military Leaders who seized power so to say someone could be the Emperor today is a bit impossible. Ah… Read more »
Morning Mate 🙂
Thanks as always for your wonderful input on the historical stuff, really appreciated!
BTW – I know you have PM’d me – I have nearly a hundred of them sitting that I need to work through so trying to get through them next week. Apologies to you and everyone else who I haven’t replied to yet!
No rush I’m just trying to give you some free stuff (English Civil War) so no skin off my back if you don’t get to it anytime soon 😉
lol – you could do the block colours on it in the mean time 😉 lol 😛
@elessar2590 that makes me even stroppier …
(Copied from a forum thread…)
It’s $578 in New Zealand
Using the “Buy foreign cash” exchange rate of 0.4883, that equates to 282.24 pounds.
(I hadn’t realised that the NZ$ had dropped vs the pound and aussie dollar so much – the latter was almost at parity not so long ago).
I suppose the postage of such a hefty box could justify the difference of just under 20 pounds.
Postage excuse is utter bs. My regular Games Store is a NZ based company (Mighty Ape) and it’s $5 shipping to get something across the Tasman, shipping is a lie GW use to price gouge.
Haven’t had a chance to watch the show yet, but did anyone else see that the BBC were reporting yesterday that GW’s profits were up 13%?
Did they sell 3 box sets in New Zealand?
100% Team @warzan it’s a re-skin and it’s not news.
You got your Lawyers to talk to the other guys Lawyers and they let you use their Art in your game big woop.
@dignity and @brennon – gentlemen I congratulate you on your patience and persistence.
lol 🙂
Interesting show this morning. Felt a bit as though it was just a reskin of Rise and fall of the Roman Empire but interesting none the less
The cat monster makes me think of an Egyptian style of cat.
It’s the Weekend! As the days close in (on those of us in the Northern Hemisphere anyway) what better ways to while away the long evenings than with pastimes, such as sitting under a blanket procrastinating about building and painting that backlog of models!
Go on @brennon tell @warzan …
Opinions shooting from the hip.
It’s not often I agree with @dignity but….
What is a cash grab? Is that not when someone mugs you or hacks your bank account? The only people who use force to take money from me are called the Government, because they think they know how to spend my money better than me. Never be threaten with fines or imprisonment for not buying a product from a company. The Internet is the worst. Also don’t get the wailing and gnashing of teeth when companies try and profit from their IP. Don’t buy it. To me the Necromunda box is not worth the money, guess what, I’m not going… Read more »
yep … the best way to stop ‘cash grabbing’ is to not buy the things that lack the soul and passion of a good developer.
as i understand it, a “cash grab” is when a company releases a “lazy” product that is expected to sell well.
i.e. an “undeserved” earning that they “did not work enough” for, or “phoned it in” as it were.
Here we could go on an epic rant about entitlement culture.
Journey? JOURNEY!
https://youtu.be/VcjzHMhBtf0
and now of to watch the rest
Hmmm, I think that necromunda mat is paper by how its folding. Not neoprene I’m certain, at best it’ll be the same as the not manowar game that they dropped years ago. Best case scenario its a solid cardboard mat. Terrain is ok, but there is a tonne of mdf zone mortalis stuff for waaaay cheaper. That aside, I agree with Warren, its a medley of stuff that doesn’t create anything in particular. Also, not nearly enough terrain for a proper game of necro off of the mortalis board. Total rip off for the price, especially when you need to… Read more »
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
Also I am curious why you were talking about pegging before the show? Bit of an odd topic – though reminds me of a great story I was once told about a monkey in Amsterdam.
What a hoot. Great show guys.
Necromunda is listed in New Zealand at $499.00 down from $578.00
Great show fellas. Dark Uprising will be the first GW release I will give a hard pass to. Whilst it is of comparative value to other releases, I believe the near AUD$500 is setting a precedent for price gouging. Especially as not everything is in the set. Honestly, if they did two AUD$200+ releases and had all the gang rules. I would have been in like Flynn. Because it’s easier to budget over a longer time interval. Given Xmas is around the corner, the budget is hosed.
“What grinds Warren’s gears”-episode. ?
Price gouging is specifically named as a practise that is illegal in some places in the world (definitely in America) – in others it would be considered illegal usually under competition law as it is considered an abuse of market power (definitely in the EU). Can someone explain to me how Games Workshop is actually price gouging?
@robert: the vernacular use of the term seems to be along the lines of “They have a monopoly on this item, and are setting the price higher than what I expected”
If you want to look a little closer at the mythology behind Vaesen, look up the artist Kittelsen. His paintings and drawings embodies the (horror) culture of Scandinavia a couple of centuries back. My personal favorite is ‘Nøkken’, with ‘Pesta i trappa’ (‘The Plague at the stairs’) comes a close second. Creepy stuff.
A brilliant depiction of Kittelsen’s trolls is found in the hilarious Norwegian movie ‘Trollhunter’.
Thanks I’ll definitely be looking into it
Agree with Gerry in that I’d like to see GW going back to releasing a game (instead of putting it out piecemeal). BTW he forgot that some of the rules are also printed in Card packs. So to get the FULL rules for Necromunda, you’ll need to buy five books (and the new starter set), along with about nine card packs (now OOP). Just give us it in a big book and stop with the partial releases to maximise profit at every possible moment 🙁 It’s the same with Adeptus Titanicus and even 40K now (with all the MTG style… Read more »
I agree with Warren on both the point about the cash grab and the comment about DnD pop culture. DnD has exploded into the mainstream, now, but it’s taken a long time to finally be accepted. Also I think the Blizzard/Small world collaboration is a cash grab as Gerry pointed out the Diablo mobile fiasco and their latest scandal with the Hearthstone streamer, they need to turn things around in their favour by making a quick buck made off two great IP’s. On a lighter note I’m looking forward to grabbing the halflings for WoE and the Deadlands Lost Colony… Read more »
I didn’t even think about that.
Yeah when you take the side of the Communist Chinese the most Murderous Government in History I bet you go out looking for good PR opportunities.
Gotta grab the cash where you can. Especially now that China has brought in a new law restricting microtransactions cause it’s seen as gambling. Next it’ll be WoW Monopoly and WoW Munchkins.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcraft-Monopoly-Board-Game/dp/B007VM2H5G/ref=asc_df_B007VM2H5G/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310843163984&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7172494401437733170&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006948&hvtargid=aud-543776533562:pla-527213923595&psc=1
@warzan oh my word what climbed up your arse, back to pegging, awesome episode I haven’t stopped laughing all the way through….. Gerrys face all through was a picture.
I believe there was a missed opportunity for an Innuendo when the War cry cat came on lol…..
For a minute or two I though @dignity would be grabbing Warren, @brennon would step out of the TV, slap @warzan and tell him to listen for 5 minutes XD
Listen! LISTEN! XD Lovely episode, looking forward to the XLBS even more 8)
I had the occasion a few years ago to tell my step-sister, who was trying to understand why I was behaving the way I was but wouldn’t let me get a word in…
“It is every difficult for you to listen when your mouth is open.”
God gave you two ears but only one mouth 😉